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Chump wants reparations for Jan 6 cop beaters

Dude, I'm agreeing with you. However, we have different reasons why they did not use more force to stop the Flavor Aiders.
Well, did they use enough force to stop the Flavor Aiders? Did they stop the Flavor Aiders? Or did they fail?
 
What the hell is wrong with you?
Have you no shame? Those police officers were for the large part overwhelmed by hundreds or at times thousands of insurrectionists.

Or, in many, many instances those officers tried to fight back and were assaulted, bear sprayed, spat on, kicked, and beaten.

And you think THEY were the problem?

How dare you. SHAME.
Do you mean when they weren't busy escorting people in and giving tours of the capitol building?
 
I am not interested in arguing with you.

J6 was a violent attack on our democracy and core American values, inspired, encouraged, and now regularly promoted by Trump.

There is no argument necessary. That is it.
You forgot to mention Russian collusion.
 
No, they weren't. You're such a disingenuous ass. It's been a few weeks since you've brought up this BS.

Jan. 6 footage shows Capitol cops escorting QAnon Shaman to Senate floor

Surveillance footage from Jan. 6, 2021, shows two Capitol police officers escorting Jacob Chansley, the be-horned so-called “QAnon Shaman” who has come to symbolize the riot.

 
Jan. 6 footage shows Capitol cops escorting QAnon Shaman to Senate floor
Surveillance footage from Jan. 6, 2021, shows two Capitol police
Jan. 6 footage shows Capitol cops escorting QAnon Shaman to Senate floor
Surveillance footage from Jan. 6, 2021, shows two Capitol police officers escorting Jacob Chansley, the be-horned so-called “QAnon Shaman” who has come to symbolize the riot.


officers escorting Jacob Chansley, the be-horned so-called “QAnon Shaman” who has come to symbolize the riot.

And what time did that happen? Can you post the videos? Can you post the video of him entering the building on his tour? You have any context?
 
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And what time did that happen? Can you post the videos? Can you post the video of him entering the building on his tour?
BB62, watch the video again. Shaman can be see being escorted into the Senate at the time that the Senate is filled with protesters. It wasn't after the protest was over, it was during the time that the building was occupied.

Now, I know that you have been parroting the lie that the only time that people were escorted in by the Capitol Police was after the protest was over. I hope that you now have the integrity to apologize now that you have been proven wrong.
 
The time that these ne’er do well, deplorable Flavor Aiders walking through the Capitol is obvious. These folks were the early birds that got to the Capitol during or soon after the Klan rally with Chump at the WH commenced. Later on after the rest of the Flavor Aiders got to the Capitol is when all hell broke loose like a Resident Evil movie scene. The Capitol and Metro police are fighting for their lives at this point. Ain’t no escorting folks at this point.
 
BB62, watch the video again. Shaman can be see being escorted into the Senate at the time that the Senate is filled with protesters. It wasn't after the protest was over, it was during the time that the building was occupied.

Now, I know that you have been parroting the lie that the only time that people were escorted in by the Capitol Police was after the protest was over. I hope that you now have the integrity to apologize now that you have been proven wrong.

You chose to believe that asshole, dirtbag, felon over conclusive video proof and the direct evidence-based conclusions of the Federal Judge.

This link, complete with video footage, is without debate the truth of how this idiot was part of the violent mob that attacked the Capitol.
 
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BB62, watch the video again. Shaman can be see being escorted into the Senate at the time that the Senate is filled with protesters. It wasn't after the protest was over, it was during the time that the building was occupied.

Now, I know that you have been parroting the lie that the only time that people were escorted in by the Capitol Police was after the protest was over. I hope that you now have the integrity to apologize now that you have been proven wrong.
Remember, the Flavor Aiders in this forum, Faux News, right wing talk radio all were saying that the rioters were Antifa.
 
You chose to believe that asshole, dirtbag, felon over conclusive video proof and the direct evidence-based conclusions of the Federal Judge.

This is without debate the truth of how this idiot was part of the violent mob that attacked the Capitol.
There is no contradiction. Shanon walked in through an open door and was then escorted through the building to the Senate by the Capitol Police. There is clear video evidence that both things happened.
 
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They say in prison for a few years. Want them to sit for more?
The ones that physically assaulted law-enforcement, beat them with baseball bats, metal sticks, and used bear spray on law-enforcement?

The ones that organized the whole thing?

Yes, I want them to sit for more than a few years in prison. And their criminal convictions have been expunged from the records. That wouldn’t happen to you or me if we got the slightest misdemeanor conviction.
 
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The ones that physically assaulted law-enforcement, beat them with baseball bats, metal sticks, and used bear spray on law-enforcement?
Read your own words. Instead of controlling the mob, the cowardly Capitol Police allowed themselves to be ass-kicked by a gang of rag-a-muffins. They should have shot the sons-of-bitches, not cower in a corner and pee on themselves. That's why 35 of them were investigated for dereliction of duty.

 
The time that these ne’er do well, deplorable Flavor Aiders walking through the Capitol is obvious. These folks were the early birds that got to the Capitol during or soon after the Klan rally with Chump at the WH commenced. Later on after the rest of the Flavor Aiders got to the Capitol is when all hell broke loose like a Resident Evil movie scene. The Capitol and Metro police are fighting for their lives at this point. Ain’t no escorting folks at this point.
You need to cross-check your stories with BB62 before posting. He's been telling us for months that the only time that protesters were escorted thru the Capitol was after the riots were over and everything had calmed down.
 
Read your own words. Instead of controlling the mob, the cowardly Capitol Police allowed themselves to be ass-kicked by a gang of rag-a-muffins. They should have shot the sons-of-bitches, not cower in a corner and pee on themselves. That's why 35 of them were investigated for dereliction of duty.

Much like Stoneham Douglas, there were officers that did not do their job and should be fired if due process determines that's the case.

Pardoning violent insurrectionist thug felons who assaulted and overran officers is a separate question.
 
Your hero Ray Epps was not charged. And the numerous FBI plants were never questioned. Let's hope the new FBI looks into the coverup.

Ray Epps is my hero?!!? I never stated nor intimated any such thing.

LIAR.

YOU ARE REPEATEDLY LYING ON THIS BOARD.

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You need to cross-check your stories with BB62 before posting. He's been telling us for months that the only time that protesters were escorted thru the Capitol was after the riots were over and everything had calmed down.
You may have understood. It does not make any sense that these Flavor Aiders were escorted during or after they attacked the Umbrella headquarters, oh I mean the Capitol. Everything was relatively calm before. Afterwards, nobody is going near that place. Let alone inside.
 
Read your own words. Instead of controlling the mob, the cowardly Capitol Police allowed themselves to be ass-kicked by a gang of rag-a-muffins. They should have shot the sons-of-bitches, not cower in a corner and pee on themselves. That's why 35 of them were investigated for dereliction of duty.

They, the 35 were probably investigated for dereliction of duty for allowing the Flavor Aiders inside. If they were investigating the officers that did not use deadly force, there would have been hundreds investigated not just 35.
 
The ones that physically assaulted law-enforcement, beat them with baseball bats, metal sticks, and used bear spray on law-enforcement?

The ones that organized the whole thing?

Yes, I want them to sit for more than a few years in prison. And their criminal convictions have been expunged from the records. That wouldn’t happen to you or me if we got the slightest misdemeanor conviction.
Haven't seen a single CIA or FBI agent sitting in any cells.
 
You may have understood. It does not make any sense that these Flavor Aiders were escorted during or after they attacked the Umbrella headquarters, oh I mean the Capitol. Everything was relatively calm before. Afterwards, nobody is going near that place. Let alone inside.
There is literally video of an officer allowing people in saying "I respect your right to do it, but not your reason why."
 
That none of them were held accountable.
Nope - try again.

What evidence do you have that (quite literally) ANY FBI or CIA employees committed misconduct on J6. I don't want to hear this "trust me bro" speculative nonsense. Give me any actual evidence from any source that isn't also a "trust me bro" source.

Do you understand that the CIA is a foreign intelligence agency that has no domestic operational capacity?

I'm fine if this isn't your knowledge base and you are wondering - that's healthy. But before you attribute this to places that might fit into your biases with any facts to support your conclusions, you should check yourself.

A few years ago the conspiratorial narrative was that Antifa was behind the insurrection. That was so thoroughly debunked - it was nonsense based on conspiratorial speculation. This FBI/CIA narrative is just that too.
 
Nope - try again.

What evidence do you have that (quite literally) ANY FBI or CIA employees committed misconduct on J6. I don't want to hear this "trust me bro" speculative nonsense. Give me any actual evidence from any source that isn't also a "trust me bro" source.

Do you understand that the CIA is a foreign intelligence agency that has no domestic operational capacity?

I'm fine if this isn't your knowledge base and you are wondering - that's healthy. But before you attribute this to places that might fit into your biases with any facts to support your conclusions, you should check yourself.

A few years ago the conspiratorial narrative was that Antifa was behind the insurrection. That was so thoroughly debunked - it was nonsense based on conspiratorial speculation. This FBI/CIA narrative is just that too.
These right wingers hate the FBI so bad that they like to conflate FBI informants with FBI agents as far as Jan 6. Informants were present on Jan 6. As we should know informants are everyday folks to help the FBI infiltrate gangs and other types of criminal organizations. A lot of them are criminals themselves that may be working with the FBI to save their own butts. If there were present on Jan 6, do we know if they were working for the FBI or present on the their accord. If the informants were participating in the assault on cops. I doubt that they were working for the FBI at that time. Could be wrong though.
 
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Nope - try again.

What evidence do you have that (quite literally) ANY FBI or CIA employees committed misconduct on J6. I don't want to hear this "trust me bro" speculative nonsense. Give me any actual evidence from any source that isn't also a "trust me bro" source.

Do you understand that the CIA is a foreign intelligence agency that has no domestic operational capacity?

I'm fine if this isn't your knowledge base and you are wondering - that's healthy. But before you attribute this to places that might fit into your biases with any facts to support your conclusions, you should check yourself.

A few years ago the conspiratorial narrative was that Antifa was behind the insurrection. That was so thoroughly debunked - it was nonsense based on conspiratorial speculation. This FBI/CIA narrative is just that too.
Who 'debunked' the FBI/CIA 'narrative'?
 
Who 'debunked' the FBI/CIA 'narrative'?
That's my point. There is no narrative that has any basis in fact that I've seen that any FBI or CIA employees were in any way there or planning anything to support J6. In fact, I have no idea what the narrative could be...explain!

I don't even know if people proposing some narrative know what that narrative actually is. BNI said it well; there is a difference between FBI agents having sources reporting on domestic extremism/terrorism. I would certainly hope that is the case. So debunking a narrative that conspiracy theorists propose with a big, fat "trust me, bro" as the basis? Yeah; that's impossible to debunk.

CIA? Our international intelligence gathering agency? I have absolutely no idea how anyone is imagining that would work.
 
I bet you don't.

Data collection errors or conduct outside of approved procedures? Sure - that happens. That's why there's an Inspector General.

The OP was talking about holding FBI and CIA employees responsible for J6. That's completely different.
 
Data collection errors or conduct outside of approved procedures? Sure - that happens. That's why there's an Inspector General.

The OP was talking about holding FBI and CIA employees responsible for J6. That's completely different.
You just call the CIA our intl intelligence gathering activity.

There was no way to hold the FBI/CIA responsible for anything under the Biden administration. They simply refuse to provide the info. Maybe that will change now that we have a real AG and a real CIA director. Let's hope.
 
Nope - try again.

What evidence do you have that (quite literally) ANY FBI or CIA employees committed misconduct on J6. I don't want to hear this "trust me bro" speculative nonsense. Give me any actual evidence from any source that isn't also a "trust me bro" source.

Do you understand that the CIA is a foreign intelligence agency that has no domestic operational capacity?

I'm fine if this isn't your knowledge base and you are wondering - that's healthy. But before you attribute this to places that might fit into your biases with any facts to support your conclusions, you should check yourself.

A few years ago the conspiratorial narrative was that Antifa was behind the insurrection. That was so thoroughly debunked - it was nonsense based on conspiratorial speculation. This FBI/CIA narrative is just that too.
They admitted to at least like 26 being there. Everyone knows feds were involved. Everyone knows it was an inside job. That's why Pelosi didn't want to do anything about it.
 
They admitted to at least like 26 being there. Everyone knows feds were involved. Everyone knows it was an inside job. That's why Pelosi didn't want to do anything about it.
No. They did not “admit to at least like 26 being there.”

And followed by a stream of “everyone knows” as your basis? Yikes.

Just stop. Or actually learn, instead of relying on speculative internet nonsense.
 
No. They did not “admit to at least like 26 being there.”

And followed by a stream of “everyone knows” as your basis? Yikes.

Just stop. Or actually learn, instead of relying on speculative internet nonsense.
Correct. The FBI didn't admit to anything. That is why it was impossible for any of the defendants to get a fair trial.

 
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