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J6 Bombshell: Trump Didn't Just Offer Military to Protect Capitol, He Ordered It but Was Disobeyed

Look what happens to someone who jumps the fence at the White House. The Secret Service shoot first and ask questions later.
They didn't do so during the Obama administration. I remember at least 3 instances. One dude almost made it to the residence section of the WH.
 
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So you're saying that security sucked in these cities, but that the 14,000 arrests were appropriate? And that if someone was arrested for a crime that by normal practice merited detention then they should have been detained?

Amen and fully agree.

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Also, let's agree that the 200 or so convicted felons that assaulted police officers on January 6th NEVER should have been pardoned. Okay?

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actually I go farther in suggesting there was no attempt at security for it to suck. The fire was fanned by politicians and encouraged to keep going. There was looting as well as violence on private and public property. Businesses destroyed and people killed by the rioters. Bricks were supplied at various locations to aid in the destruction. The response was a far cry from 1970 Kent State shooting which was wrong, but that is how things were dealt with back then. We saw the two tiered justice at work between what lasted for months and encouraged and what lasted for hours and condemned. The peons be damned, while the royalty wants order. THAT is wrong.

Arrests don't mean much to me and neither do felonies without context. That is a function of a particular court (s) where sentencing can be completely different from other courts. Many of the rioters just got misdemeanors in the summer of love. So no way could I group 200 people together and say a felony was warranted...AND as we know all of that pales in comparison to what Biden did...which is a lead into Elon and Shapiro (both exceptionally bright) suggesting that Trump should pardon Derek Chauvin.

As is the case so often...too many oxen in a corral is not a problem until your oxen gets gored...
 
actually I go farther in suggesting there was no attempt at security for it to suck. The fire was fanned by politicians and encouraged to keep going. There was looting as well as violence on private and public property. Businesses destroyed and people killed by the rioters. Bricks were supplied at various locations to aid in the destruction. The response was a far cry from 1970 Kent State shooting which was wrong, but that is how things were dealt with back then. We saw the two tiered justice at work between what lasted for months and encouraged and what lasted for hours and condemned. The peons be damned, while the royalty wants order. THAT is wrong.

Arrests don't mean much to me and neither do felonies without context. That is a function of a particular court (s) where sentencing can be completely different from other courts. Many of the rioters just got misdemeanors in the summer of love. So no way could I group 200 people together and say a felony was warranted...AND as we know all of that pales in comparison to what Biden did...which is a lead into Elon and Shapiro (both exceptionally bright) suggesting that Trump should pardon Derek Chauvin.

As is the case so often...too many oxen in a corral is not a problem until your oxen gets gored...
Only racists want Chauvin pardoned. Coming from Mr. Apartheid, that’s no surprise.
 
They didn't do so during the Obama administration. I remember at least 3 instances. One dude almost made it to the residence section of the WH.
It has happened 24 times since 1974. None got in. Eight were shot, one was so badly mauled by Secret Service patrol dogs that the SS stopped using dogs, and the others were gang tackled. 22 of the 24 were arrested. The other two were not arrested because they were shot dead.

 
Well I'm almost certain that if a White Cop, shot a Black unarmed prior service woman,
who posed little if no threat to himself, he would be in jail or at minimum have his career ruined.
Even if that service person WAS A VIOLENT CRIMINAL BREAKING THROUGH A WINDOW DURING AN INSURRECTION OF CONGRESS WITH HUNDREDS OF VIOLENT CRIMINALS FOLLOWING HER?

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Her Twitter account, which was taken down after her death, was rife with references to the QAnon conspiracy theory, which centers on the baseless belief that Trump has secretly battled deep-state enemies and a cabal of Satan-worshiping cannibals that includes prominent Democrats who operate a child sex trafficking ring.

“Nothing will stop us,” Babbitt tweeted Jan. 5. “They can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours....dark to light!”
 
Even if that service person WAS A VIOLENT CRIMINAL BREAKING THROUGH A WINDOW DURING AN INSURRECTION OF CONGRESS WITH HUNDREDS OF VIOLENT CRIMINALS FOLLOWING HER?

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Her Twitter account, which was taken down after her death, was rife with references to the QAnon conspiracy theory, which centers on the baseless belief that Trump has secretly battled deep-state enemies and a cabal of Satan-worshiping cannibals that includes prominent Democrats who operate a child sex trafficking ring.

“Nothing will stop us,” Babbitt tweeted Jan. 5. “They can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours....dark to light!”
It doesn’t make any difference what her ideology is, what her gender is, what her color is. If someone is breaking into the Capitol and threatens the occupants, CP should take guns from holsters and BANG BANG BANG.
 
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It doesn’t make any difference what her ideology is, what her gender is, what her color is. If someone is breaking into the Capitol and threatens the occupants, CP should take gun from holsters and BANG BANG BANG.
We don't always see eye to eye, but I appreciate your honesty. That way, when we do see eye to eye (like now) I can fully endorse your take.
 
It doesn’t make any difference what her ideology is, what her gender is, what her color is. If someone is breaking into the Capitol and threatens the occupants, CP should take guns from holsters and BANG BANG BANG.
Generally agree but not in this case. That officer had previously proven himself to be incompetent and should not have been on any police force anywhere in the US.

He could and should have fired a warning shot.
 
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Generally agree but not in this case. That officer had previously proven himself to be incompetent and should not have been on any police force anywhere in the US.

He could and should have fired a warning shot.
No law enforcement agency in the US authorizes officers to fire warning shots. Pulling that trigger means there is a justifiable deadly force situation. Shoot to kill the justified target.
 
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No law enforcement agency in the US authorizes officers to fire warning shots. Pulling that trigger means there is a justifiable deadly force situation. Shoot to kill the justified target.
Some agencies do allow it.

What no agency should allow is an incompetent officer to continue on a force no matter what color he is after he leaves his service revolver in a public restroom where kids (your special interest) or who knows who else could find it.
 
Only racists want Chauvin pardoned. Coming from Mr. Apartheid, that’s no surprise.
no, that is not true. You can't mindfully label everyone racist because they see things different than you and have more thought in their toolbox to apply other than racism. There are people that believe the toxicity report and do not believe a knee to the back killed him. Choosing to believe what they see and the report doesn't make them racist. I have never met anyone, at anytime, that sees racism behind every tree. Now those people that believe the report...it could be argued that maybe they shouldn't, but this whole racist approach to the world lacks logic on so many fronts, and cannot be healthy for you. You really need to add to your boogie man list.
 
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Even if that service person WAS A VIOLENT CRIMINAL BREAKING THROUGH A WINDOW DURING AN INSURRECTION OF CONGRESS WITH HUNDREDS OF VIOLENT CRIMINALS FOLLOWING HER?

WASHINGTON (AP) —
Her Twitter account, which was taken down after her death, was rife with references to the QAnon conspiracy theory, which centers on the baseless belief that Trump has secretly battled deep-state enemies and a cabal of Satan-worshiping cannibals that includes prominent Democrats who operate a child sex trafficking ring.

“Nothing will stop us,” Babbitt tweeted Jan. 5. “They can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours....dark to light!”
I'm glad the officer that shot her knew all this information before he killed her!!!

Are J. Alexander Kueng, Thomas K. Lane, and Tou Thao or Derek Chauvin still in jail.
 
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More of your cell block lingo.

Yes, let's hear it for an incompetent DEI police officer who was the only officer to fire his weapon at the Capitol on Jan. 6, killing a woman.

I am surprised Biden didn't award him a Presidential Medal of Freedom for his heroic actions.
 
More of your cell block lingo.

Yes, let's hear it for an incompetent DEI police officer who was the only officer to fire his weapon at the Capitol on Jan. 6, killing a woman.

I am surprised Biden didn't award him a Presidential Medal of Freedom for his heroic actions.
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Passive aggressive, off-topic, and anti-law enforcement all in one post!

The Riveting trifecta.

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Anti incompetent DEI law enforcement.
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"Woman leads a group of violent felons through a window into a restricted area of the Capitol while innocents run for their lives"

BANG. YOU ARE DEAD. And it's justified.

You are just pissy because she was a whacky QAnon TRUMP SUPPORTING woman who was shot, as she should have been.

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More of your cell block lingo.

Yes, let's hear it for an incompetent DEI police officer who was the only officer to fire his weapon at the Capitol on Jan. 6, killing a woman.

I am surprised Biden didn't award him a Presidential Medal of Freedom for his heroic actions.
He was the only Capitol and Metro DC police officer that had the testicular virility to fire his weapon at them deplorable Flavor Aiders.
 
He was the only Capitol and Metro DC police officer that had the testicular virility to fire his weapon at them deplorable Flavor Aiders.
At a target he had no positive ID of...is that how you would like other officers to act? I don't think it is.
 
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At a target he had no positive ID of...is that how you would like other officers to act? I don't think it is.
Not sure if this is what you're implying, but I would hope you aren't saying that officers can only justifiably neutralize threats that they can ident?
 
She must have been the most feared protester to take out to save his life. What a heroic event in American history.
Damn right - she was the first one to crawl through that window leading the charge toward where the legislators and Vice President were.

BANG! And that slowed them all down, apparently enough to get them to safety before someone could hang the VP and others, as they clearly stated they intended to do.

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He was the only Capitol and Metro DC police officer that had the testicular virility to fire his weapon at them deplorable Flavor Aiders.
And the incompetence to leave his service pistol in a public restroom where a kid could have found it and killed himself or others. If a white officer had done that he would have been fired immediately, and rightly so.

Your kind of DEI hero, right?
 
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And the incompetence to leave his service pistol in a public restroom where a kid could have found it and killed himself or others. If a white officer had done that he would have been fired immediately, and rightly so.

Your kind of DEI hero, right?
Hahahaha

You actually think that officers get “fired immediately” for stuff like that?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!

No. No police union in America will ever lose an officer based on a first offense dumbass move like that one.

Good gawd—you really are a racist if you think that a non-probationary officer screwing up and leaving a firearm where they shouldn’t will get them anything other than an IA report and maybe a few days on the bricks.

Black, white, green, or purple! Doesn’t matter what the skin color of that officer is even the tiniest bit. Yet you think it’s because the officer was black?

Holy crap.
 
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Hahahaha

You actually think that officers get “fired immediately” for stuff like that?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!

No. No police union in America will ever lose an officer based on a first offense dumbass move like that one.

Good gawd—you really are a racist if you think that a non-probationary officer screwing up and leaving a firearm where they shouldn’t will get them anything other than an IA report and maybe a few days on the bricks.

Black, white, green, or purple! Doesn’t matter what the skin color of that officer is even the tiniest bit. Yet you think it’s because the officer was black?

Holy crap.
Right, and he can claim he missed the potty training.

The chief must not have been aware of this union protection after 3 incidences in 2015.

"Dine said a first-time offender would be suspended for five days under current policy for leaving a weapon unattended, but he is considering toughening the penalty to 30 days or even potential termination for a first offense because of the seriousness a single error can carry."

 
He was the only Capitol and Metro DC police officer that had the testicular virility to fire his weapon at them deplorable Flavor Aiders.
Do you think if Ashley Babbitt was a black woman, would that capital policeman have shot her?
 
Right, and he can claim he missed the potty training.

The chief must not have been aware of this union protection after 3 incidences in 2015.

"Dine said a first-time offender would be suspended for five days under current policy for leaving a weapon unattended, but he is considering toughening the penalty to 30 days or even potential termination for a first offense because of the seriousness a single error can carry."

You are not just a racist, Trump-slurping fool, you’re also naive!!

pssshhhHahahahahahaha

You actually think that any officer gets fired for crap like that. And you immediately attributed it to the race of an officer that wasn’t fired?

Good lord.
 
no, that is not true. You can't mindfully label everyone racist because they see things different than you and have more thought in their toolbox to apply other than racism. There are people that believe the toxicity report and do not believe a knee to the back killed him. Choosing to believe what they see and the report doesn't make them racist. I have never met anyone, at anytime, that sees racism behind every tree. Now those people that believe the report...it could be argued that maybe they shouldn't, but this whole racist approach to the world lacks logic on so many fronts, and cannot be healthy for you. You really need to add to your boogie man list.
Only racists like you would take the side of a racist cop. What Chauvin did was a modern day lynching.

Expert forensic doctors testified in court that the knee to the neck is what kilt Floyd.

So let me ask you. Racism of whites towards blacks is totally gone from the US? Is that what your belief is?
 
You are not just a racist, Trump-slurping fool, you’re also naive!!

pssshhhHahahahahahaha

You actually think that any officer gets fired for crap like that. And you immediately attributed it to the race of an officer that wasn’t fired?

Good lord.
How about if a kid finds the gun and blows his head off? The officer can't be fired?
 
How about if a kid finds the gun and blows his head off? The officer can't be fired?
It’d be terrible! Maybe they could try if the outcome was that bad. But the union would prevail based on precedent.

So not happening. Not even if the officer is white. Or black. Or female. Or male.
 
It’d be terrible! Maybe they could try if the outcome was that bad. But the union would prevail based on precedent.

So not happening. Not even if the officer is white. Or black. Or female. Or male.
Byrd was suspended for 33 days without pay for leaving his weapon in a public restroom. Why didn't the union keep that from happening?
 
Byrd was suspended for 33 days without pay for leaving his weapon in a public restroom. Why didn't the union keep that from happening?
So he wasn’t, as you so knowledgeably stated “fired immediately?” Yup.

Was it a first offense that got him 33 days on the bricks?
 
Hahahaha

You actually think that officers get “fired immediately” for stuff like that?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!

No. No police union in America will ever lose an officer based on a first offense dumbass move like that one.

Good gawd—you really are a racist if you think that a non-probationary officer screwing up and leaving a firearm where they shouldn’t will get them anything other than an IA report and maybe a few days on the bricks.

Black, white, green, or purple! Doesn’t matter what the skin color of that officer is even the tiniest bit. Yet you think it’s because the officer was black?

Holy crap.
check his record. The restroom wasn't his first or last screw up.
 
So he wasn’t, as you so knowledgeably stated “fired immediately?” Yup.

Was it a first offense that got him 33 days on the bricks?
Correct. He was not fired at all despite his gross incompetence.

He had several other offenses on his record, including three for which the records are 'missing'. This has DEI coverup written all over it.

 
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