Chuck Todd

[TeddyValentineDidNothingWrong]

No it wouldn't. Every single country with single payer have major issues that we don't have. Long waits for surgeries, long waits for emergency services, shortage on doctors, etc. Many of those countries have a black market for care as well because of those issues. On top of that, almost ALL medical innovation comes from the US. Now, granted, the largest amount of funding for research comes from the NIH, but almost all of the innovation has been improvements for the young and not the elderly because of Medicare. If we go to single payer, medical advancements would slow significantly.

Medicare for All Means Innovation for None - Reason Foundation

Public health care has little incentive to introduce new technologies and prolong life.

reason.org

What we need to do is start to remove government from healthcare. That is the only way we will get affordability back as well as having great care. Having affordability back would get us close to universality.

The US has long wait times for surgeries. We have a national nursing shortage. We have a black market for care. And you are absolutely wrong that our private profit incentive-driven American system is driving the most medical innovation. Cuba with a wholly socialized system (and an embargo limiting their trade with 80% of the world) literally cured mother-to-child AIDS transmission, something that the lack of profit incentive has let American pharmaceutical companies not even care about.

"Affordability" is a complete misnomer. Single payer would allow the government to negotiate prices for drugs, procedures, equipment etc. directly with the manufacturers, lowering costs tremendously instead of unrestrained bloat due to insurance company's desire to squeeze as much profit out of everything as possible.

 

[Boilermaker03]

The US has long wait times for surgeries. We have a national nursing shortage. We have a black market for care. And you are absolutely wrong that our private profit incentive-driven American system is driving the most medical innovation. Cuba with a wholly socialized system (and an embargo limiting their trade with 80% of the world) literally cured mother-to-child AIDS transmission, something that the lack of profit incentive has let American pharmaceutical companies not even care about.

"Affordability" is a complete misnomer. Single payer would allow the government to negotiate prices for drugs, procedures, equipment etc. directly with the manufacturers, lowering costs tremendously instead of unrestrained bloat due to insurance company's desire to squeeze as much profit out of everything as possible.

Affordability is a misnomer as long as the government is involved. That's a fact. Just look at Lasic. No government involvement. Huge amount of innovation and it's getting cheaper as well. Let the market work. Get government out!

 

[TeddyValentineDidNothingWrong]

Affordability is a misnomer as long as the government is involved. That's a fact. Just look at Lasic. No government involvement. Huge amount of innovation and it's getting cheaper as well. Let the market work. Get government out!

I don't think you can compare the market for an elective procedure with the greater public health risk pool vis-a-vis single payer.

 

[Boilermaker03]

I don't think you can compare the market for an elective procedure with the greater public health risk pool vis-a-vis single payer.

Of course you can. There are places out there that actually advertise their prices for procedures. They don't accept insurance and their rates are WAY lower than anywhere else, and you know what it costs up front.

 

[TeddyValentineDidNothingWrong]

Of course you can. There are places out there that actually advertise their prices for procedures. They don't accept insurance and their rates are WAY lower than anywhere else, and you know what it costs up front.

No, you can't. One by definition has a risk pool of -everyone- and one doesn't.

 

[threeeputtt]

Ask the kids graduating from journalism school. They now "shape" the news not just report it. It is NOT main stream media either. The real word should be "activist media". BOTH sides.

 

[charlespig]

You can have a news story without bias. The Purdue IU example, you list stats and other details. It wouldn't be exciting, but it's not that hard to have an unbiased reporting. Same with a police shooting. If you stick to factual details and leave out all speculation, you're going to be very close to an unbiased reporting.

Every time you are listing "other details," you are letting bias creeps into the news story. The devil is always in the details.

If you just list stats, that will be pretty much like a box score. Not a "news story."

You are not gonna find any readers with these "news story." No one other than number geeks.

Any time there is a news STORY, there is someone telling the story, and there's a perspective. As much as reporters try to remove themselves from the story, they still have to report from a perspective. To make it a popular news story and to get readership, they tend to report from their target audience's perspective. Hence it is gonna biased.

During the China - USA tension the last few years, if you read a Chinese newspaper and an American newspaper reporting the same meeting, you will come up with vastly different impression, even if they try to remain unbiased and mostly quote what was said during the meeting.

You can't deny the fact that news media companies need to make money. To make money means they need to get readership. To get readership they need to give their readers what they want to read. Not many people want to read pure stats and numbers.

In theory, accurate information should be a public good. It is something that EVERYONE wants and can benefit. Typically, these should be non-profit and funded by the government, like NPR. Sadly, these days the mistrust in government makes people even skeptical.

Using Hong Kong as an example, they used to have something similar called RTHK (Radio Television Hong Kong). RTHK produced a lot of high quality programs that won a lot of international awards. They investigated the issues in the society and would criticize the government. That was their job. Ironically, in the good old days when society was going well, the locals there found RTHK's programs boring. However, when China pushed for a disinformation campaign and the society was torn apart, RTHK's programs became more and more important. They were the least biased and as close to truth as one could get.

Sadly, once the National Security Law was passed there in 2020, the government jailed several RTHK producers with bullshit excuses. The China-lean newspaper attacked RTHK as "using government's money to undermine the government," and anyone who didn't suck up to China or the government were either fired or forced to leave. No one dared to produce any program that is critical to China or the government. Today, RTHK has just became another propaganda machine.

 

[jdevers1]

Chuck Todd: Liberal bias in media? What liberal bias?

Meet the Press host Chuck Todd in a recent interview dismissed the idea the national corporate press have a “liberal bias," claiming the entire notion is just a Republican talking point.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Chuck Todd, the political director of NBC News insisted the media is not biased to the Left. I'm sure that we are all comforted by that reassurance. Apparently, when you live in an echo chamber, where everyone thinks the same and says the same things, you just accept that as your baseline truth and anything that deviates from your belief system has to be untrue, despite any evidence to the contrary.

Unfortunately, the MSM uses their filters, when they determine what news is worthy of reporting. If it doesn't further their agenda or if a story paints a picture counter to what they've been reporting, that story ends up on the cutting room floor.

-- White Cop shoots Black man, we get around the clock reporting about the poor, innocent, oppressed victim and the institutional Racism that was the root cause of the shooting, regardless of how long the felon's rap sheet is or what he was doing to get shot.

-- Dozens of Blacks, including young children, get shot in Chicago almost every week and it's a "Ho Hum" story, since there's no white cop to vilify. You rarely hear about it.

Which story should the MSM push hardest, if the point is to save the most Black lives? You get the distinct impression that inciting racial tension is far more important to the MSM, than saving thousands of nameless, faceless Black people. They'd argue that they're engaged in the fight to overcome Institutional Racism. The thousands of dead Black people are not impressed with this rationalization.

For 4 years we heard about Trump being Putin's puppet & Russian collusion, although there was NO factual evidence to support this claim, but it helped the Left put the Evil Orange Guy on the defensive, even before he was sworn in. The Dems lied and the MSM lied, using the same talking points. Interesting...

When the Hunter Biden Laptop story broke, it was either suppressed by the MSM & Social Media or dismissed as Russian disinformation. Had they reported the story, as they should have, how much impact would it have had in the election? Getting rid of the Evil Orange Guy was far more important than Journalistic integrity.

Yeah, sure, Chuck, we could look forever and never find any proof of Media Bias.

Unfortunately, that bias has also spilled over to our school systems. That's exactly why the NEA dumbs down our educational system, so people are ignorant enough to believe this crap. Now kids may not know how many genders there are, since Biology is no longer a Science we follow, but 6 year old kids are now aware that they were either oppressors or victims depending on the pigmentation of their skin. Isn't it good that our school systems are indoctrinating our youth to be oblivious to the media bias and preparing them to compete with China?

You sound like an idiot.

 

[Boilermaker03]

Every time you are listing "other details," you are letting bias creeps into the news story. The devil is always in the details.

If you just list stats, that will be pretty much like a box score. Not a "news story."

You are not gonna find any readers with these "news story." No one other than number geeks.

Any time there is a news STORY, there is someone telling the story, and there's a perspective. As much as reporters try to remove themselves from the story, they still have to report from a perspective. To make it a popular news story and to get readership, they tend to report from their target audience's perspective. Hence it is gonna biased.

During the China - USA tension the last few years, if you read a Chinese newspaper and an American newspaper reporting the same meeting, you will come up with vastly different impression, even if they try to remain unbiased and mostly quote what was said during the meeting.

You can't deny the fact that news media companies need to make money. To make money means they need to get readership. To get readership they need to give their readers what they want to read. Not many people want to read pure stats and numbers.

In theory, accurate information should be a public good. It is something that EVERYONE wants and can benefit. Typically, these should be non-profit and funded by the government, like NPR. Sadly, these days the mistrust in government makes people even skeptical.

Using Hong Kong as an example, they used to have something similar called RTHK (Radio Television Hong Kong). RTHK produced a lot of high quality programs that won a lot of international awards. They investigated the issues in the society and would criticize the government. That was their job. Ironically, in the good old days when society was going well, the locals there found RTHK's programs boring. However, when China pushed for a disinformation campaign and the society was torn apart, RTHK's programs became more and more important. They were the least biased and as close to truth as one could get.

Sadly, once the National Security Law was passed there in 2020, the government jailed several RTHK producers with bullshit excuses. The China-lean newspaper attacked RTHK as "using government's money to undermine the government," and anyone who didn't suck up to China or the government were either fired or forced to leave. No one dared to produce any program that is critical to China or the government. Today, RTHK has just became another propaganda machine.

That's 99% of the problem with news. It's not supposed to be a story. It's news. It's supposed to be irrefutable facts. Not laced with personal interpretations.

You just laid out exactly why the "news" media shouldn't really be trusted. They have a financial incentive, which these days don't necessarily ensure that the truth is told. Only what will make them money. Scare sells. Over-hyping of Covid (CNN people have been caught on undercover camera saying as much). Climate Change. Etc Etc. The media doesn't give two shits about the truth. The truth is boring. They need to scare you into paying attention and giving them money. This then is fertile ground for greedy politicians to capitalize on that fear.

 

[BoilerBiker]

You just laid out exactly why the "news" media shouldn't really be trusted. They have a financial incentive, which these days don't necessarily ensure that the truth is told. Only what will make them money.

if you dont like the results that a free market offers, what would you prefer instead

 

[BleedinGold]

if you dont like the results that a free market offers, what would you prefer instead

TrumpTV. The only real news source for nonfake news.

 

[Boilermaker03]

if you dont like the results that a free market offers, what would you prefer instead

I wouldn't really call this free market since it's beholden to political parties.

 

[TheGunner]

And here is NBC’s Chuck Todd leading the parade for Cuomo’s return

 

[BleedinGold]

And here is NBC’s Chuck Todd leading the parade for Cuomo’s return

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Did you listen to the entire clip or just read the cherry picked quote that was posted in the tweet?

I think Cuomo is done politically IMO.

However, I agree with Todd that he may run for some political office again. It's going to have to be something in which he can be appointed with little controversy (that's not happening for the next few years), or something smaller in a gerrymandered district or something that he can run for.

I'd prefer he just not run for any office ever again. And he can disappear like Anthony Weiner, John Edwards, and others before him.

 

[TheGunner]

Did you listen to the entire clip or just read the cherry picked quote that was posted in the tweet?

I think Cuomo is done politically IMO.

However, I agree with Todd that he may run for some political office again. It's going to have to be something in which he can be appointed with little controversy (that's not happening for the next few years), or something smaller in a gerrymandered district or something that he can run for.

I'd prefer he just not run for any office ever again. And he can disappear like Anthony Weiner, John Edwards, and others before him.

Yes I listened to the whole statement. It would seem to me that a typical network contributor would be highlighting the reasons why Cuomo was resigning versus already speculating what may happen in 3-4yrs. But Paraders need to parade.

Some things are better left unsaid, but Chuck Todd is a “centrist” and expressed his “conservative/centrist side” (lol…not really) by speculating that Cuomo may be able to get it together for another run for office in 4 yrs. what does that say to the #MeToo crowd?

Hey, maybe Cuomo is the best NY politics has to offer

 

[CWS]

The US has long wait times for surgeries. We have a national nursing shortage. We have a black market for care. And you are absolutely wrong that our private profit incentive-driven American system is driving the most medical innovation. Cuba with a wholly socialized system (and an embargo limiting their trade with 80% of the world) literally cured mother-to-child AIDS transmission, something that the lack of profit incentive has let American pharmaceutical companies not even care about.

"Affordability" is a complete misnomer. Single payer would allow the government to negotiate prices for drugs, procedures, equipment etc. directly with the manufacturers, lowering costs tremendously instead of unrestrained bloat due to insurance company's desire to squeeze as much profit out of everything as possible.

“The US has long wait times for surgeries.” - this is not a true statement for the most part.

 

[BleedinGold]

Yes I listened to the whole statement. It would seem to me that a typical network contributor would be highlighting the reasons why Cuomo was resigning versus already speculating what may happen in 3-4yrs. But Paraders need to parade.

Some things are better left unsaid, but Chuck Todd is a “centrist” and expressed his “conservative/centrist side” (lol…not really) by speculating that Cuomo may be able to get it together for another run for office in 4 yrs. what does that say to the #MeToo crowd?

Hey, maybe Cuomo is the best NY politics has to offer

Well I'm pretty sure Chuck wasn't introducing the segment. Andrea Mitchell likely had already reported the facts and had already pointed out the reasons why Cuomo was resigning (if anyone living under a rock didn't already know).

But this was Andrea Mitchell's show. Chuck was filling the commentary role. His role was there to present his thoughts on the resignation and Cuomo.

But if you're concerned the viewers were denied a full perspective as to the reasons why Cuomo resigned I'm sure Andrea Mitchell's full hour is available online for you to rewatch. I think you'll find the coverage you're looking for.

Cuomo isn't going to Epstein himself. He's still going to TRY and land on his feet. I just hope it does it far outside of any political or public office.

 

[TeddyValentineDidNothingWrong]

“The US has long wait times for surgeries.” - this is not a true statement for the most part.

Oh ok cool.