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Can we please end the Crossroads Classic as is...
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I hear what you are saying about you not caring for the term and I respect your opinion on that; I did get a good laugh out of Cleanface's ridiculously over-the-top response of feigned outrage, so I hope you can appreciate his sense of humor even if his opinion might be contrary to yours.
I feel our state motto "Crossroads of America" is unique to Indiana, as it is of historical significance and relevancy. It's about more than just highways intersecting: it's about roads, railroads and waterways throughout Indiana; it's about geography, topography and where we are located when westward expansion was happening and as our country grew. It's a state motto that fits and works for us on many levels:
http://www.netstate.com/states/mottoes/in_motto.htm
I think using "Crossroads Classic" as the name of this event is a good move, as it applies to the state (by way of state motto) and is all-inclusive. Notre Dame and IU used to play Louisville and Kentucky in an event this time of year in Indianapolis called "The Big Four Classic"... what do you suppose most Purdue fans thought of that name?
I'm afraid that if they drop this name from the event that the next thing they'll want to do is abolish the breaded pork tenderloin as our state sandwich! And if that happens, then we're just opening the door for our most hated rival to abscond with it:
http://www.iowalum.com/magazine/dec14/highHog.cfm?page=all
COLONEL CLEANFACE -- ARE YOU READY TO RALLY THE TROOPS??!!
Gotta save the Pork Sandwich......they used to make like 10,000 of those for game days.....with Brohm....I'm going long on Pork.
What an odd perspective. What about Chicago elites? What about those damn Kentuckians?
The only thing good about the state of Indiana is that Purdue is located there. I'm thankful every day that I only had to live in the state for four years.
just kidding...kinda.
Duh. Geographically challenged. Geesh. How embarrassing.
Yea it's easy to sit back and pick any place apart and pretend it is just a terrible place to live. Have no idea where it is that you live but I'm sure it has problems just like anywhere else. I've had career opportunities in Chicago and on the east coast and I prefer Indiana to either one. Apparently you dislike it and that's fine. I'm thankful every day that there are other places for people like you.
Well, in my book - the event that the majority of the people attending are going to watch is the "main" act.
I'm all for Purdue being bold, being confident, etc. - I'm simply pointing out facts - our fans in Indianapolis are weak. In my post, I referenced past events in Indianapolis. The Blockbuster used to sell out Market Square with Purdue fans. It was a big event. Then the Blockbuster started getting phased out as the Wooden Tradition started. We also sold out that event - I was at the game when we beat #1 Arizona. It wasn't an arena full of Arizona fans. And during this time, the Blockbuster died out. There's plenty of reasons for it - it's not easy to schedule big name teams at your own 'neutral' site event. However, Purdue also stopped trying to make it an event - opponent aside.
Are there more IU fans in Indiana than Purdue? Sure. But Purdue has 40,000+ alumni in Marion and Hamilton County alone. I don't know the figures for the other counties right around Indianapolis. Not to mention campus is an hour away. And we struggle selling 4,000 tickets?
The excuses need to die down.
My point is this - if Purdue wants to play in Indianapolis then it needs to pretend like it cares about playing in Indianapolis. But here's the thing - what's the incentive for Purdue to market anything? The tickets are going to be sold to someone, whether its a Purdue fan or not. So the revenue will come. Purdue does nothing to push fans to go to this game. And it is somewhat understandable - they're caring about selling the tickets over break games at Mackey that go directly into their pockets. In all reality, this event would make more money for the schools being played on campuses. You get twice the crowd buying tickets - you don't have to rent an NBA facility - you still have the same TV appeal.
I don't judge success of events based on seeing some Purdue fans in bars scattered across downtown Indianapolis. I certainly don't believe we would only have 1 win in this event if half of our games had been played at Mackey. I'm not saying don't play neutral site games - I just don't like that we're playing second fiddle to IU. I'd rather go play a neutral site game against Marquette in Chicago or play Xavier in Indianapolis or play Texas in Houston or Dallas (where we have a sizable alumni base).
I loved playing Louisville in Indianapolis. That was a game where that arena was sold out with half Purdue fans and half Louisville fans. That atmosphere dwarfed this Crossroads Classic atmosphere. Same building.
No, the Jimmy V Classic wasn't some tremendous atmosphere. But there was a good chunk of Purdue fans there - particularly for a weeknight in NYC. I was actually surprised with how many people were there (the lower part didn't fill up towards later in our game, but the upper arena had a good chunk of people the whole time - granted most came for the second game or just had no rooting interest. And that's fine - cause the second game wasn't our primary rival that we're not allowed to play and who's fans root against us while we play a significant game on our schedule. And the game was also played hundreds of miles away from campus.
I wasn't giving any excuses, I don't know where you got that from?? I like the event, period. There is no reason for me to give excuses.
Obviously you have an IU problem. That is your whole problem with this event. You don't like being involved with the same event as IU. I have no problem with it at all. I would much rather have an event in Indy than out east somewhere against a bad team in a half empty arena. Playing Marquette in Chicago? WTH good would that do us? You think that would be a good atmosphere? ND/Butler in Indy or Marquette in Chicago? Wow that's a tough choice. Playing Texas in Houston?? Where did you ever get that combination? Come on, you bash the PU admin for poor planning on the Crossroads and this is your answers to a better set up? I think you better give it more thought.
My comment about the bars was to illustrate that many PU fans were in town and at the game. Not really sure why you seem to have an edge about this subject but it's obvious you have an ax to grind with the administration and bashing this event gives you some satisfaction. Also your obsession with the IU angle just fuels that "little brother" mentality.
I think it's pretty clear from others comments that they also enjoyed going to the games and think it's good for our program. I hope they keep it going. Obviously you don't like it so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
