Cameron McGrone

[Summy1]

Read an article talking about a good outside linebacker from Lawrence central. Indiana and tenn. are the most heavily involved in recruiting right now. Not sure why purdue's staff didn't try to go after this kid? Brohm apologized to him about the lack of interest from the past staff. Hope it's not too late though. Purdue needs to get these good in state players.

 

[BoilerBloodline]

Is he a 2017 or 2018 recruit? If he's a 2017 recruit, I somewhat understand as we have decent depth (comparatively speaking) at LB. But if he's a 2018 kid I haven't a clue. Unless Brohm & Holt were told they don't have a prayer or the kid doesn't fit their scheme.

 

[boilerpt]

This isn't the first, and won't be the last, that Brohm has to do service recovery with. Hazell and co. did an incredibly poor job of recruiting and building relationships. However, every early indication is that Brohm and his staff have been very well received as they work to make up ground.

 

[Wolegib]

he's a 2018 recruit. Brohm and Purdue quickly made him offer. he's currently projected as a 100% IU commitment. he's also a 4 star outside LB, and visited ND last week. he also kind of likes Tennessee. he's got offers from about 8 BIG 10 schools among his 19 offers.

This is the type of player Brohm needs to somehow reel in. yes, we're way behind the recruiting power curve. but Brohm is making the effort.

As for the past, Hazell did very little recruiting of players who were not in the current recruiting class. He almost never had any commitments or even tried to get commitments from players who weren't graduating. his vision and focus was on Seniors. unlike Brohm, Hazell developed zero long term recruiting relationships.

Brohm is recruiting seniors, juniors, sophomores, freshman, jucos, transfers, and grad transfers. This is a great athlete to target. Brohm's staff is proving they know talent. Now, they have to make up for Hazell's past mistakes, and win over that talent, and bring them to Purdue. it's admittedly a tough task.

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[Summy1]

he's a 2018 recruit. Brohm and Purdue quickly made him offer. he's currently projected as a 100% IU commitment. he's also a 4 star outside LB, and visited ND last week. he also kind of likes Tennessee. he's got offers from about 8 BIG 10 schools among his 19 offers.

This is the type of player Brohm needs to somehow reel in. yes, we're way behind the recruiting power curve. but Brohm is making the effort.

As for the past, Hazell did very little recruiting of players who were not in the current recruiting class. He almost never had any commitments or even tried to get commitments from players who weren't graduating. his vision and focus was on Seniors. unlike Brohm, Hazell developed zero long term recruiting relationships.

Brohm is recruiting seniors, juniors, sophomores, freshman, jucos, transfers, and grad transfers. This is a great athlete to target. Brohm's staff is proving they know talent. Now, they have to make up for Hazell's past mistakes, and win over that talent, and bring them to Purdue. it's admittedly a tough task.

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Yes, these are the types of players that brohm needs to land. No reason he should choose IU over us.

 

[boilerpt]

I'm not expecting him to come in and land a bunch of these types this year, but I do think we will start seeing him win those battles more often than not in the future once he's had a couple years to build relationships.

 

[Wolegib]

Two things stand out! This Is a 4 star athlete who is in Indiana and yet Hazel showed no interest in recruiting him. Why? And Brohm now has to apologize to the athlete for Hazell's stupidity and lack of interest. What was Hazel doing? How stupid and lazy was Hazel to ignore an instate talent like. This?

I hope Brohm can sign a player like this. If he is unable to do so, at least I'll know he has an eye for talent and he tried! I'm not expecting Brohm to bring in a class of twenty 4 and 5 star players! But this is the caliber of player and being in state is the type of player I expect and hope he will target and hopefully sign.

 

[TC4THREE]

Yes, these are the types of players that brohm needs to land. No reason he should choose IU over us.

Maybe he thinks going from one high school coach to another will ease the transition.

 

[nat100]

What was Hazel doing?

nothing. absolutely nothing

 

[TC4THREE]

It doesn't make any sense for a recruit to not be interested now because Hazell didn't recruit them before. Any recruit that uses that as their excuse is looking for a convenient excuse to not be interested.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

Two things stand out! This Is a 4 star athlete who is in Indiana and yet Hazel showed no interest in recruiting him. Why? And Brohm now has to apologize to the athlete for Hazell's stupidity and lack of interest. What was Hazel doing? How stupid and lazy was Hazel to ignore an instate talent like. This?

I hope Brohm can sign a player like this. If he is unable to do so, at least I'll know he has an eye for talent and he tried! I'm not expecting Brohm to bring in a class of twenty 4 and 5 star players! But this is the caliber of player and being in state is the type of player I expect and hope he will target and hopefully sign.

I believe Hazell has the same attitude and arrogance that made Morgan so hated in the last decade of him being at Purdue. I truly think Hazell thought he could just recruit anyone, bring them to Purdue, and be smarter than anyone else. There is a difference between being knowledgeable and finding a kid who has some untapped potential (what CMP appears to be very good at doing) and just being arrogant, not knowing what you are doing, and faking it...Hazell was definitely the latter

 

[pb1941]

I believe Hazell has the same attitude and arrogance that made Morgan so hated in the last decade of him being at Purdue. I truly think Hazell thought he could just recruit anyone, bring them to Purdue, and be smarter than anyone else. There is a difference between being knowledgeable and finding a kid who has some untapped potential (what CMP appears to be very good at doing) and just being arrogant, not knowing what you are doing, and faking it...Hazell was definitely the latter

Also the way and who he recruited made me think he wants to be fired. Give me the money and down the road I go. That's Hazell

 

[Wolegib]

I'm passionate about recruiting. I understand some things and don't understand a lot of other things. I wasn't a huge Cronk fan. I liked him primarily because he was a 3 * lineman that expressed an actual interest in coming to Purdue. Forget the part about being local and attending CC. I coud care less where his home town was. He was an athlete who actually came out publically stating he wanted to play for Purdue. and yet, Hazell still ignored him. I guess Hazell expected him to be a walk-on?

I can fully understand a player signing elsewhere. But what I can't understand is when you have a 3/4/5 star athlete , and he says he wants to play for you and the coach and coaching staff totally ignores him. and then signs a 2 star athlete from nowheres- ville who then needs to redshirt and add 80 pounds to bulk up., and then transfers to another position, and doesn't contribute until his senior year while we cry about lack of depth.

I have often admitted I know little about this sport. But I care and have passion. A lot of passion. Sadly, it didn't appear that Hazell cared. And it was obvious the day he was hired. You could see the difference. the day Brohm was hired . Brohm has a passion. I feel bad for him that he has to apologize to recruits for his predecessor.

 

[nat100]

When hazell passed on cronk, we had two higher ranked linemen committed. They eventually decommited and went elsewhere

The think that irks me is, you can never have too many linemen. Who cares if you bring in 3? Idiot

 

[Wolegib]

When hazell passed on cronk, we had two higher ranked linemen committed. They eventually decommited and went elsewhere

The think that irks me is, you can never have too many linemen. Who cares if you bring in 3? Idiot

Agreed. Hazell passed on a lot of linemen in preference to signing as many dbs and rbs as he could find. Is Keith Byers still here?

 

[nat100]

Agreed. Hazell passed on a lot of linemen in preference to signing as many dbs and rbs as he could find. Is Keith Byers still here?

Nope. Didn't he leave yo pursue a music career?

 

[Wolegib]

If only Purdue had offered a music degree. I'd bet Patterson would have been a much calmer person off the field at night listening to Brahms for his music appreciation quiz.

 

[SKYDOG]

nothing. absolutely nothing

He won the lottery with his contract and was way too busy counting his money.

 

[nat100]

If only Purdue had offered a music degree. I'd bet Patterson would have been a much calmer person off the field at night listening to Brahms for his music appreciation quiz.

 

[Wolegib]

I call it like I see it. When I was his age , I didn't go around punching people and breaking their jaw. And yes, in times of stress I turned to music. I was one of the late night DJs at WILY. I played a lot of Moody Blues, Yes, Harry Chapin, Cat Stevens, Dr. Demento, and requests. and no, I never received a request to play Misty for me.

 

[nat100]

I call it like I see it. When I was his age , I didn't go around punching people and breaking their jaw. And yes, in times of stress I turned to music. I was one of the late night DJs at WILY. I played a lot of Moody Blues, Yes, Harry Chapin, Cat Stevens, Dr. Demento, and requests. and no, I never received a request to play Misty for me.

Woof. That's a lot of bad music.

 

[Wolegib]

Woof. That's a lot of bad music.

It was the 70's! I threatened callers with Carpenters, Manilo, Aaron Copeland, and Purdue Glee Club records. I may have even played the 1812 Overture and John Phillip Souza once. I threw in some Beatles, Chicago, Monkees, Led Zeppelen, and anything that was over 5 minutes. I didn't have premade music play tapes, I just flipped records. You'd be surprised at the weird requests that would come in at 2-3 AM on weekends.

 

[Bob Sienicki]

It was the 70's! I threatened callers with Carpenters, Manilo, Aaron Copeland, and Purdue Glee Club records. I may have even played the 1812 Overture and John Phillip Souza once. I threw in some Beatles, Chicago, Monkees, Led Zeppelen, and anything that was over 5 minutes. I didn't have premade music play tapes, I just flipped records. You'd be surprised at the weird requests that would come in at 2-3 AM on weekends.

When were you at WILY?
I was originally a DJ at WCCR in '72-'73, then a DJ and Programming Director at WILY in '73-'74 (got to broadcast the Grand Prix in '74 from the middle of the track!), then finally the Programming Director for the overall Purdue Radio Network during 1st semester '74-'75 - good gigs. Unfortunately, had to move off-campus 2nd semester. Good times! Played a lot of off the wall Jazz (going deep in the library - like Luiz Bonfa's Jacaranda!) and favs like King Crimson, ELP, Pink Floyd, Yes, etc.

 

[Wolegib]

When were you at WILY?
I was originally a DJ at WCCR in '72-'73, then a DJ and Programming Director at WILY in '73-'74 (got to broadcast the Grand Prix in '74 from the middle of the track!), then finally the Programming Director for the overall Purdue Radio Network during 1st semester '74-'75 - good gigs. Unfortunately, had to move off-campus 2nd semester. Good times! Played a lot of off the wall Jazz (going deep in the library - like Luiz Bonfa's Jacaranda!) and favs like King Crimson, ELP, Pink Floyd, Yes, etc.

I was at WILY in 76-77, 77-78 and 78-79 . I Was the late night guy after midnight. People partying late at night or pulling all nighters would tune in. I believe Tom Wilkinson was program director. He let me Dj because nobody else wanted the time slot. I also played a lot of Rick Wakeman because you could just put on one of his records and not change it for 20 mins. We also had some record sales of all those unknown groups who gave the radio station their promo records. One group I started to like was Splinter. They were on Dark Horse records, and George Harrison played guitar for them.

 

[TC4THREE]

I was feeling old this morning until I came to this thread reading about people in college before I was born.

 

[nat100]

I was feeling old this morning until I came to this thread reading about people in college before I was born.

Same.

 

[Wolegib]

I was feeling old this morning until I came to this thread reading about people in college before I was born.

You could have been conceived by your parents listening to the sounds of the songs I played on their radio ; like jungle boogie ! A classic oldie ! Or the romantic songs I sang into their hearts like Cherish, and them their eyes!

 

[Bob Sienicki]

I was feeling old this morning until I came to this thread reading about people in college before I was born.

Lol. In time, you'll be in our shoes!

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

Lol. In time, you'll be in our shoes!

 

[TC4THREE]

Lol. In time, you'll be in our shoes!

There are times I already feel like I am. That generational gap has been hitting me square in the face the past few years with the millennial generation hitting the workforce.