Brohm mentioned with the Tennessee Opening (along with others)

[RegionWarrior101]

Jeff Brohm – There is no question Jeff Brohm’s offense is one of the most exciting & effective in college football. His buyout is definitely manageable for Tennessee. The pause from coaches is, “I don’t know that he’s ready to lead that program. Have to recruit nationally. His staff would likely need some changes. Do you trust him to out coach Nick, Kirby, Muschamp and whoever Florida hires each year?”

http://footballscoop.com/news/the-chatter-at-tennessee/

Right now, I do not think he is not going anywhere, but an interesting perspective. I could see 1-2 options falling through and then it could be time to look out.

Flight watch geeks could have fun doing the same thing we did last year but only in reverse. If the 5% chance it does happen, I wonder if Bobinski picks up where he left off a year ago or opens a whole new search. I do not feel there is a viable candidate on staff to transition to.

 

[Wolegib]

I get tired of people who write this crap and people who believe it. there's a 5% chance It will snow in Tennessee this weekend too.

What you have is somebody who needs to write a story, and others who read it and fear the sky is falling down.

if you want something to worry about, Kaspersky computer virus protection software is made, coded, updated, and sold from Moscow, Russia. And it's company was used as part of a Russian hacking of another country's computer/server. one update from Kaspersky could wipe out half of our US personal computers. they may already have. Rather than blaming Microsoft and Windows for your computer problems, maybe you should start looking at your virus protection software.

 

[TC4THREE]

I get tired of people who write this crap and people who believe it. there's a 5% chance It will snow in Tennessee this weekend too.

What you have is somebody who needs to write a story, and others who read it and fear the sky is falling down.

if you want something to worry about, Kaspersky computer virus protection software is made, coded, updated, and sold from Moscow, Russia. And it's company was used as part of a Russian hacking of another country's computer/server. one update from Kaspersky could wipe out half of our US personal computers. they may already have. Rather than blaming Microsoft and Windows for your computer problems, maybe you should start looking at your virus protection software.

I find this funny coming from you because you've authored some really far-fetched things on this board and seem really offended when you get called on it. I find it 100% believable that his name, at a minimum, has been brought up within the Tennessee athletic department as a potential replacement. Whether or not he's high on the list or whether or not he'd be interested in that job is a completely separate matter.

All that said, if we can have some of the ridiculous discussions/hypotheticals here that we have (what would it look like today if we had hired Butch Jones 5 years ago) then I don't see why a subject like this would be a problem.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

I find this funny coming from you because you've authored some really far-fetched things on this board and seem really offended when you get called on it. I find it 100% believable that his name, at a minimum, has been brought up within the Tennessee athletic department as a potential replacement. Whether or not he's high on the list or whether or not he'd be interested in that job is a completely separate matter.

All that said, if we can have some of the ridiculous discussions/hypotheticals here that we have (what would it look like today if we had hired Butch Jones 5 years ago) then I don't see why a subject like this would be a problem.

Football Scoop is an incredibly well connected site... It isn't like some blogger or media hack trying to make a name for himself. They do their research and know their stuff. It is credible and interesting to see how our buyout and coach are perceived.

 

[TC4THREE]

Flight watch geeks could have fun doing the same thing we did last year but only in reverse. If the 5% chance it does happen, I wonder if Bobinski picks up where he left off a year ago or opens a whole new search. I do not feel there is a viable candidate on staff to transition to.

I'd at least give Holt an interview if we found ourselves in that position. If he could convince me that the offense would be in good hands with him as head coach I'd be open to it. I'm actually really surprised he didn't end up getting the WKU job last year.

 

[Wolegib]

I find this funny coming from you because you've authored some really far-fetched things on this board and seem really offended when you get called on it. I find it 100% believable that his name, at a minimum, has been brought up within the Tennessee athletic department as a potential replacement. Whether or not he's high on the list or whether or not he'd be interested in that job is a completely separate matter.

All that said, if we can have some of the ridiculous discussions/hypotheticals here that we have (what would it look like today if we had hired Butch Jones 5 years ago) then I don't see why a subject like this would be a problem.

Ok, you're right. stranger things have happened in the world that I never thought would happen or were worth worrying about,

 

[RegionWarrior101]

I'd at least give Holt an interview if we found ourselves in that position. If he could convince me that the offense would be in good hands with him as head coach I'd be open to it. I'm actually really surprised he didn't end up getting the WKU job last year.

Maybe he passed on the opportunity? I think Holt is a coordinator's coordinator. Pay wise, I would figure WKU would offer maybe $700K to a head man? Holt is probably making $500K to not have to deal with the day to day stuff. Wasn't he like 4-20 at Idaho?

 

[TC4THREE]

Ok, you're right. stranger things have happened in the world that I never thought would happen or were worth worrying about,

No problem. Just found your criticism to be particularly ironic because it seems like half the stuff of yours I even start to read ends up with me rolling my eyes and thinking how pointless it is to even discuss it.

 

[TC4THREE]

Maybe he passed on the opportunity? I think Holt is a coordinator's coordinator. Pay wise, I would figure WKU would offer maybe $700K to a head man? Holt is probably making $500K to not have to deal with the day to day stuff. Wasn't he like 4-20 at Idaho?

IIRC, he stayed and coached their bowl game when Brohm accepted the Purdue job and then also interviewed to become the next head coach there. When he wasn't chosen, he followed Brohm to Purdue.

http://www.bgdailynews.com/sports/w...cle_29f86bb1-90bf-54cd-ad23-22d2cf5bc1ef.html

Eight candidates interviewed for the full-time job, including three members of the current staff – Holt, co-offensive coordinator Brian Brohm and special teams coordinator Tony Levine.

Stewart instead went with an outside candidate in Sanford, Notre Dame’s co-offensive coordinator. The 34-year-old was introduced Wednesday as the program’s 20th head coach.

 

[Wolegib]

Football Scoop is an incredibly well connected site... It isn't like some blogger or media hack trying to make a name for himself. They do their research and know their stuff. It is credible and interesting to see how our buyout and coach are perceived.

I imagine people also believe the same about the Federalist and CNN. They both spend a lot of research on their stories. and half of the people believe one, and half of the people believe the other.

You cut down Dakitch, Davis, and ESPN and the Indy sports media as biased, and then you say Football Scoop is legit ? ok. if you say so.

 

[nat100]

Maybe he passed on the opportunity? I think Holt is a coordinator's coordinator. Pay wise, I would figure WKU would offer maybe $700K to a head man? Holt is probably making $500K to not have to deal with the day to day stuff. Wasn't he like 4-20 at Idaho?

He wanted it. They wanted an offensive minded coach.

 

[nat100]

I imagine people also believe the same about the Federalist and CNN. They both spend a lot of research on their stories. and half of the people believe one, and half of the people believe the other.

You cut down Dakitch, Davis, and ESPN and the Indy sports media as biased, and then you say Football Scoop is legit ? ok. if you say so.

footballscoop is well connected. Better source than rockytop or whatever boris posted yesterday.

 

[Wolegib]

No problem. Just found your criticism to be particularly ironic because it seems like half the stuff of yours I even start to read ends up with me rolling my eyes and thinking how pointless it is to even discuss it.

you're right. but if I make a statement, I'll stand by it and defend it rather than flipping it. I make many outlandish comments. that many disagree with. if I'm called out, I'll defend my reasoning.

At the beginning of the year, I said Purdue 's victory total would be 4+2. We've got the 4. Many people think we could still pull an upset over Iowa. I believe we'll beat IU. People called me crazy then and crazy now. but through it all I've stuck with my opinion.

I have serious reservations believing any rumors that would suggest Brohm would leave after one year. That being said, I can believe the media would create it as a possibility.

I might be crazy, opinionated, and know nothing, and have zero "cred" but at least, by now you know what to expect and where I'm coming from.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

I imagine people also believe the same about the Federalist and CNN. They both spend a lot of research on their stories. and half of the people believe one, and half of the people believe the other.

You cut down Dakitch, Davis, and ESPN and the Indy sports media as biased, and then you say Football Scoop is legit ? ok. if you say so.

When did I cut down anyone else? Football scoop is legit - source? PEOPLE IN THE COACHING INDUSTRY. Give it a follow.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

IIRC, he stayed and coached their bowl game when Brohm accepted the Purdue job and then also interviewed to become the next head coach there. When he wasn't chosen, he followed Brohm to Purdue.

http://www.bgdailynews.com/sports/w...cle_29f86bb1-90bf-54cd-ad23-22d2cf5bc1ef.html

Eight candidates interviewed for the full-time job, including three members of the current staff – Holt, co-offensive coordinator Brian Brohm and special teams coordinator Tony Levine.

Stewart instead went with an outside candidate in Sanford, Notre Dame’s co-offensive coordinator. The 34-year-old was introduced Wednesday as the program’s 20th head coach.

Interesting. I had no idea as I did not follow the story much after Brohm left and word came in that he brought a lot of the band with him. Seeing the names jogged my memory a bit. I also forgot Levine could be a potential HC- 21-17 at Houston is not horrible.

 

[TC4THREE]

Holt was 5-18 at Idaho. I'd certainly look into that because I don't know what all he was up against there but I don't think that means he couldn't ever be successful in another place. Also, we don't know what alternatives there might be.

 

[Wolegib]

TC4TRHEE was correct. Holt did apply for the head coaching job and lost out. it would be interesting for both schools if Holt had stayed at WKU. Would Purdue's defense be as good as it is? After losing out, is it possible holt would apply for a head coaching job elsewhere? or an NFL def coord position? I believe Holt leaving is a greater possibility than Brohm leaving.

region Warrior, you may not have dissed the media I've mentioned, but many others on this board have. I have to believe despite what some people here say about them, they also put in a lot of time and effort before their ideas are published.

from my standpoint, I'm not a big fan of sports sites that put out possibilities that create fear in fans or that raise fans hopes unrealistically. That article listed 8 coaches as possibilities including Gruden and also Fleck before they listed Brohm's name. I am led to wonder, what are the Minn fans posting today? Are they worried the may lose Fleck? or are they may be like me and saying that web site is just writing cap? I'm sure tenn fans would salivate over having Gruden as their next coach. Tenn fans probably love and want to believe that article.

I read posts about the brewers on several very well respected MLB insider web pages. Last month that web site talked about trading SS Arcia because he was their best player and would bring back the most prospects in return as if the brewers needed more minor league outfield prospects. . While that may be true, he is their best player, he is also the guy they are building around, so why would they trade him? to continue their rebuilding process? This month that same respected site is talking about the brewers pursuing the Cubs Arietta as a free agent signing. Yes, the brewers have one of the lowest payrolls in MLB, and Arietta is a free agent. but fans like me become very skeptical to believe there is any truth to the well researched articles they publish. they're just rumors and possibilities, and ideas from a writer's head. that same site has posted some accurate stories and player transactions using inside sources. So how much is fluff and how much is truth? .

that's why when I see Brohm's name mentioned in articles, I become very skeptical. Although I would be very interested in revisiting this article once Tenn actually does hire somebody to prove or disprove how much this site really knows, and how much they publish is just fluff and space filler. I'm also interested in what Minn fans think. Fleck's name was mentioned more prominently than Brohm's.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

from my standpoint, I'm not a big fan of sports sites that put out possibilities that create fear in fans or that raise fans hopes unrealistically. That article listed 8 coaches as possibilities including Gruden and also Fleck before they listed Brohm's name. I am led to wonder, what are the Minn fans posting today? Are they worried the may lose Fleck? or are they may be like me and saying that web site is just writing cap? I'm sure tenn fans would salivate over having Gruden as their next coach. Tenn fans probably love and want to believe that article.

Trust me, Football Scoop is from insiders, or as inside as you can get- people on staff. This isn't Barstool or some clickbait site to get people to click on a story. It is respectful and unless discussed, is not published. Now they do use other sources but were quick to dispel the PJ. Fleck and Les Miles to Purdue rumors. Did not discredit, but that "their sources have not heard those reports."

 

[wawasee]

I don't think the Tennessee job is that great right now.

 

[TC4THREE]

I don't think the Tennessee job is that great right now.

Most jobs that need a coach aren't great jobs to walk into. It takes a coach with vision to see what it can be. That's why Jeff Brohm is at Purdue right now.

 

[Wolegib]

Trust me, Football Scoop is from insiders, or as inside as you can get- people on staff. This isn't Barstool or some clickbait site to get people to click on a story. It is respectful and unless discussed, is not published. Now they do use other sources but were quick to dispel the PJ. Fleck and Les Miles to Purdue rumors. Did not discredit, but that "their sources have not heard those reports."

I trust you. and don't believe you would not lie. I've just become skeptical of a lot of insider web sites lately.

I come to this site because there are a lot of knowledgeable people here. it's like I heard about Holmes here first. I read the real story hear about that DB transfer Williams who wasn't admitted when no official media would publish it. this site has provided a lot of inside info that others haven't. and the insight on this site shared by posters has been pretty accurate.

i'd say this site, trolls included , is a lot more insightful and accurate than the national sites.

that's why I remain skeptical when I see a national site talk about possibilities. You have respected insiders still predicting WR Moore will end up signing with Purdue. There is still hope and a possibility. I'd like to believe their inside info is true. But there are other insiders who say that ship has sailed.

I'm not an insider. but I read a lot of insider insights. Some are spot on, but many are just space filler. as a fan, it's sometimes very hard to know which insider to believe.

 

[jsglenn4]

Most jobs that need a coach aren't great jobs to walk into. It takes a coach with vision to see what it can be. That's why Jeff Brohm is at Purdue right now.

I think that's a very good point.

A couple of comments from an outsider, if I may. The first... I lived in Knoxville for 6 years while my wife was working on her MA/PhD. That fan base is exceptionally delusional and the job is a bigger mess as a result. The second... Brohm has only been at Purdue for a year. I don't know Jeff Brohm or really anything about him. I only know what I see from a greater distance than the average IU fan. The impression I have is he is smart enough keep his distance from Tennessee at this point in his career and he is not the kind of coach to leave after just a single season. If he continues to impress, you'll likely have to cross that bridge relatively soon, but I believe it's highly unlikely to be after this season.

 

[TC4THREE]

I think that's a very good point.

A couple of comments from an outsider, if I may. The first... I lived in Knoxville for 6 years while my wife was working on her MA/PhD. That fan base is exceptionally delusional and the job is a bigger mess as a result. The second... Brohm has only been at Purdue for a year. I don't know Jeff Brohm or really anything about him. I only know what I see from a greater distance than the average IU fan. The impression I have is he is smart enough keep his distance from Tennessee at this point in his career and he is not the kind of coach to leave after just a single season. If he continues to impress, you'll likely have to cross that bridge relatively soon, but I believe it's highly unlikely to be after this season.

I tend to agree with this but, like you said, we don't really know him that well just yet.

 

[mathboy]

Comparing the two jobs, I imagine the Purdue job is the better of the two, especially if the coach has any moral fortitude. The structure and reputation of the BIG has to be equal to that of the SEC, and the universities are of higher rank academically. Coaching and competing in the SEC would be like drinking from a toilet.

 

[JohnHoosierr]

The big ten west is literally the best division to be in, in college football. If you can get past wisconsin and make it to the ccg, you have a legit shot at the playoffs. No other conference offers an easier path then being in the big ten west. And if he was able to excel here he would have his pick of any job in the nation.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

Jeff Brohm – There is no question Jeff Brohm’s offense is one of the most exciting & effective in college football. His buyout is definitely manageable for Tennessee. The pause from coaches is, “I don’t know that he’s ready to lead that program. Have to recruit nationally. His staff would likely need some changes. Do you trust him to out coach Nick, Kirby, Muschamp and whoever Florida hires each year?”

http://footballscoop.com/news/the-chatter-at-tennessee/

Right now, I do not think he is not going anywhere, but an interesting perspective. I could see 1-2 options falling through and then it could be time to look out.

Flight watch geeks could have fun doing the same thing we did last year but only in reverse. If the 5% chance it does happen, I wonder if Bobinski picks up where he left off a year ago or opens a whole new search. I do not feel there is a viable candidate on staff to transition to.

John Gruden comes out of retirement for one last throw down at UT. Hearing lots of chatter from family in Rocky Top.

 

[Hausta01]

The big ten west is literally the best division to be in, in college football. If you can get past wisconsin and make it to the ccg, you have a legit shot at the playoffs. No other conference offers an easier path then being in the big ten west. And if he was able to excel here he would have his pick of any job in the nation.

SEC East, ACC Coastal (I think, whichever one doesn't have FSU and Clemson), PAC-12 South are all just as easy as the B1G West.

 

[pboiler18]

SEC East, ACC Coastal (I think, whichever one doesn't have FSU and Clemson), PAC-12 South are all just as easy as the B1G West.

SEC East is easy?

Maybe this year...but in previous years Florida, Georgia, Tennessee And Mizzou have mostly been good at the same time. Even South Carolina is a perpetual 8 win team. The BIG West in their best year doesn’t touch the SEC East in their best year.

The SEC has a Nick saban problem. I️ think every team in the conference has fired their coach at least once trying to keep up with the Saban’s. That has led to a lot of rebuilding jobs...with several of those happening to coincide at the same time right now

 

[Hausta01]

SEC East is easy?

Maybe this year...but in previous years Florida, Georgia, Tennessee And Mizzou have mostly been good at the same time. Even South Carolina is a perpetual 8 win team. The BIG West in their best year doesn’t touch the SEC East in their best year.

The SEC has a Nick saban problem. I️ think every team in the conference has fired their coach at least once trying to keep up with the Saban’s. That has led to a lot of rebuilding jobs...with several of those happening to coincide at the same time right now

Sure in the SEC East is better historically than the B1G West. But the last few years the SEC East has been a dumpster fire with a crappy Florida team winning. Georgia is solid this year but is Mizzou the 2nd best team in the East right now? MIZZOU?

 

[TheBoris]

Seems like Bobby Petrino would be on the list of some of these job openings. His buyout was cut in half when AD Jurich got canned.

 

[pboiler18]

Sure in the SEC East is better historically than the B1G West. But the last few years the SEC East has been a dumpster fire with a crappy Florida team winning. Georgia is solid this year but is Mizzou the 2nd best team in the East right now? MIZZOU?

No. South Carolina and Kentucky are tied for 2nd at this point. Even then, I STILL think it’s probably better than the West this year. Both those teams are 8-9 win teams. I think the perception is that it’s way down because Tennessee and Florida we’re struggling so bad. It’s true that those 2 teams are bad but they have been trying to keep up with saban over the past 10 years and it’s hurt them a lot in the short term.

 

[threeeputtt]

Any head coach that would still drive a 2004 Honda the first few month (I presume he has gotten another ride by now) on the job is grounded AND has a sense of humor. He is THE man!

 

[FirstDownB]

I wonder what the chatter would be like if Brohm had a reliable receiver this season and we were sitting at 6-4 instead of 4-6.

Ok, I'm going to go ahead and say it...
All things considered, I'm ok with 2 or 3 seasons like this if it keeps Brohm from being the #1 target for schools like UT. As long as the recruiting continues to pick up, it is more important long term than instant success. You can win more easily with good talent and an average coach than with poor talent and a good coach. If he had won 9 games this year and left, the next coach would have to be another home run hire because he would also be essentially starting from ground zero. But if he sticks around long enough to restock the shelves with a few top 40 classes I am confident MBob could find another coach to carry on from there.

I don't know if Brohm would jump on an offer from UT, and I don't know if he would jump after only one year, but I would prefer not to even have the question answered.

 

[Wolegib]

I'll throw this out there.

if Brohm becomes successful and Purdue starts challenging UW for the BIG 10 West, do you see Brohm using Purdue as a springboard to other bigger jobs, or do you think he might turn into a Tiller or Alverez or Paterno and make Purdue his final stop? maybe become the next AD ?

Basically, would he build on his success to make Purdue a perennial championship contender? or would he use it to get a better job? I'm biased. I don't believe there are many jobs better than the Purdue job. If he were to win a BIG 10 championship or big bowl game, I don't believe he would bolt. I think he would become like Hayden Frye at Iowa or Alverez. or keady.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

I'll throw this out there.

if Brohm becomes successful and Purdue starts challenging UW for the BIG 10 West, do you see Brohm using Purdue as a springboard to other bigger jobs, or do you think he might turn into a Tiller or Alverez or Paterno and make Purdue his final stop? maybe become the next AD ?

Basically, would he build on his success to make Purdue a perennial championship contender? or would he use it to get a better job? I'm biased. I don't believe there are many jobs better than the Purdue job. If he were to win a BIG 10 championship or big bowl game, I don't believe he would bolt. I think he would become like Hayden Frye at Iowa or Alverez. or keady.

I am not sure if you will see coaches become the ADs anymore. Especially making $3 million a year to deal with headaches for $700,000 a year. I guess maybe as a "retirement job" but who would think a major college AD would be a retirement gig. Usually I think Wal Mart greeter. I have heard Tuberville (63) is interested in the Auburn job, and Mack Brown (66) was being floated at Texas.

 

[Wolegib]

I am not sure if you will see coaches become the ADs anymore. Especially making $3 million a year to deal with headaches for $700,000 a year. I guess maybe as a "retirement job" but who would think a major college AD would be a retirement gig. Usually I think Wal Mart greeter. I have heard Tuberville (63) is interested in the Auburn job, and Mack Brown (66) was being floated at Texas.

That would be interesting to see brown back at Texas as the AD. A lot of people liked and respected brown as a coach. A couple of influential ones didn't, and money won over.

 

[ossim]

If he really wants to compete for an NC he will jump ship if he can get us to 10 wins.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

I'll throw this out there.

if Brohm becomes successful and Purdue starts challenging UW for the BIG 10 West, do you see Brohm using Purdue as a springboard to other bigger jobs, or do you think he might turn into a Tiller or Alverez or Paterno and make Purdue his final stop? maybe become the next AD ?

Basically, would he build on his success to make Purdue a perennial championship contender? or would he use it to get a better job? I'm biased. I don't believe there are many jobs better than the Purdue job. If he were to win a BIG 10 championship or big bowl game, I don't believe he would bolt. I think he would become like Hayden Frye at Iowa or Alverez. or keady.

Brohm will not be at PUrdue in five years. He's either going to do a big enough job at PU to land a bigger job, or he's going to be so mediocre that the AD has no chance but to move on.

From what I've seen so far leads me to believe the second.

 

[pb1941]

Brohm will not be at PUrdue in five years. He's either going to do a big enough job at PU to land a bigger job, or he's going to be so mediocre that the AD has no chance but to move on.

From what I've seen so far leads me to believe the second.

I`ts hard to see when you have your head up your ass.He will make Purdue football better.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

I`ts hard to see when you have your head up your ass.He will make Purdue football better.

I agree pb1941. I am not sure if he will get us to consistent 10-2 but think we could be consistent 7-5. Honestly if the floor is 7-5 and beating IU, I would take that.