Brohm long term

[Purdue0034]

Just keep Brohm away from U of L and I think we can hang onto him for a long time. If Brohm turns out to be the second coming of Joe Tiller, we have a very bright football future! We just need to keep him happy and healthy here in West Lafayette! Purdue is a great place to put down some permanent roots - just need to convince Brohm of that if he isn't already convinced. Love the performance of his team so far! Let's show our appreciation and fill Ross-Ade this Saturday! Boiler Up!

 

[Indy_Rider]

I think he would be a great fit for Tennessee. He be closer to getting a national title at Tennessee than of course being at Purdue. Look at the recruiting geographical area compared to Purdue. No... Money is not an issue but a national title is. Plus look at the living areas why would anyone want to live in West Lafayette when you could live in a million dollar house in the quite smoky mountains. Stephanie White did it for all the reasons I mentioned above...and of course she went for the money too... Fever were paying her Peanuts. Great move Stephanie Mr. Brohm not far behind.

Tennessee keeps thinking they are national title contenders. They haven't even really been relevant since Fulmer and even then that was in the first half of his coaching career. They haven't been a serious threat in two decades now, so not in any of the recruits life time. That job has turned into revolving door for coaches and is a career killer.

 

[npb]

I will be the first to admit I don't know the answer to my question. Brohm looks like the absolutely best possible hire Purdue could have made. What are the odds the big money programs come calling and would Purdue be able to make it hard for him to leave?

The model we need to follow to keep Brohm should be much like what Iowa has done in keeping Ferentz. Norm

 

[boilermaker75]

Just keep Brohm away from U of L and I think we can hang onto him for a long time. If Brohm turns out to be the second coming of Joe Tiller, we have a very bright football future! We just need to keep him happy and healthy here in West Lafayette! Purdue is a great place to put down some permanent roots - just need to convince Brohm of that if he isn't already convinced. Love the performance of his team so far! Let's show our appreciation and fill Ross-Ade this Saturday! Boiler Up!

Tiller stayed even though he very much disliked Burke and he felt he did not get much support. It should be a very different environment for Brohm with Bobinski as AD.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

The model we need to follow to keep Brohm should be much like what Iowa has done in keeping Ferentz. Norm

I don't know. Some could argue they are WAY over paying for him. I guess there's a consistency there you can appreciate.

My ideal scenario is at least 5 years of success with Brohm. If a Blue Blood (or possible LOU) come calling at that point, I think we have a foundation of success, support, and top TV revenue that allows us to go get someone to keep the momentum. If he leaves in less time than that, I worry the foundation won't be as strong and we could slip back to where we were.

 

[TheBoris]

Just keep Brohm away from U of L and I think we can hang onto him for a long time.

IMHO, Louisville isn't a concern. Petrino is doing a very good job and he has a $10 million buyout. He isn't going anywhere.

 

[ossim]

Tennessee keeps thinking they are national title contenders. They haven't even really been relevant since Fulmer and even then that was in the first half of his coaching career. They haven't been a serious threat in two decades now, so not in any of the recruits life time. That job has turned into revolving door for coaches and is a career killer.

This is absolutely true. Basically every coach either has to measure up to early Fulmer in football or Bruce Pearl in basketball. Their history doesn't run deep and their expectations run ridiculously high. Get the job, get paid, get or get kicked out. That's what your career outlook looks like with respects to Tennessee.

 

[Purdue0034]

IMHO, Louisville isn't a concern. Petrino is doing a very good job and he has a $10 million buyout. He isn't going anywhere.

I suppose you could be right. I thought Petrino was older than he actually is. I was thinking he was in his early 60's, but actually he is only 56. So let's hope he stays at Louisville for another 10 years or so!

 

[FirstDownB]

IMHO, Louisville isn't a concern. Petrino is doing a very good job and he has a $10 million buyout. He isn't going anywhere.

I could be wrong on this, but isn't the $10M buyout what Petrino owes UL if he decides to leave? Like with Hazell, I think the entire base salary is guaranteed. That means even after this season they still owe him something like $20M through 2023.
Louisville isn't swallowing that contract any time soon. Not unless he completely tanks.

 

[TheBoris]

I suppose you could be right. I thought Petrino was older than he actually is. I was thinking he was in his early 60's, but actually he is only 56. So let's hope he stays at Louisville for another 10 years or so!

A greater concern is Notre Dame. I actually hope that Kelly gets things turned around because he's on thin ice.

 

[TheBoris]

I could be wrong on this, but isn't the $10M buyout what Petrino owes UL if he decides to leave?

Yes.

 

[Indy_Rider]

A greater concern is Notre Dame. I actually hope that Kelly gets things turned around because he's on thin ice.

I just can't see Brohm jumping after one season, so I hope Kelly doesn't turn it around. Now Fleck, I could see jumping at that job after one year.

 

[TheBoris]

I just can't see Brohm jumping after one season, so I hope Kelly doesn't turn it around. Now Fleck, I could see jumping at that job after one year.

Agree, but I'm not talking about this year only. If Brohm's success continues and Kelly can't string together a couple of ten-win seasons, ND might make a move in 2-3 years.

Another high-profile program with big bucks to spend on a new coach is Texas A&M.

 

[Indy_Rider]

Agree, but I'm not talking about this year only. If Brohm's success continues and Kelly can't string together a couple of ten-win seasons, ND might make a move in 2-3 years.

Another high-profile program with big bucks to spend on a new coach is Texas A&M.

I think there is a good shot Kelly is gone this year. There was a lot of heat on him last year.

A&M is only high profile in A&M fans mind.

 

[BoilerTom90]

I could make the argument that a winning football program is worth $10M a year to the athletic department. Easily. But the question would not be a simple business decision as I don't think Purdue board would be willing to match Michigan or ND money on principle. However after the last five years I think they would be willing to keep the compensation very competitive with 90% of P5 schools. If one of the other 10% knock on the door, they offer things we can't offer anyway, then you're just SOL that's life.

IMO, places like ND and UM, and most SEC schools, have unrealistic expectations. If you aren't in the hunt for a NC every year, your job is on the line. All coaches want to win, but I can't imagine all of them want that kind of [unrealistic] pressure.

All I know is, it's refreshing and exciting to see a competitive PU football team again.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

Just keep Brohm away from U of L and I think we can hang onto him for a long time. If Brohm turns out to be the second coming of Joe Tiller, we have a very bright football future! We just need to keep him happy and healthy here in West Lafayette! Purdue is a great place to put down some permanent roots - just need to convince Brohm of that if he isn't already convinced. Love the performance of his team so far! Let's show our appreciation and fill Ross-Ade this Saturday! Boiler Up!

Wouldn't you really have better than Tiller?

 

[JHetfield99]

By all reports, he was happy at Western Kentucky making $800K per year. Now he is being paid $3.3 MM which could reach $4.5 MM with bonuses. That will buy you a very large house in West Lafayette, IN. I'm not sure another $2-3 MM would feel any different to him, given he drives an old Honda

He does not strike me as someone who is always looking for the next opportunity. And his demeanor seems like such a good fit with Purdue and our current administrators. He's just been given the keys to a spectacular performance facility which he can use to recruit through his connections in the Indianapolis/Louisville areas.

The one vulnerability could be U of L. But I'm not sure he would want to be involved in that corrupt mess anytime soon.

Want to keep him at Purdue? Get season tickets and join JPC. I think he and his staff were grateful for the great crowd vs. Ohio U. That the Boiler faithful returned to Ross Ade so quickly is a tribute to their loyalty; particularly after almost a decade of lousy football.

+100,000

terrific post

 

[JHetfield99]

You are riight. Even for the money, the coaches have wised up to some of the crazy expectations the larger programs fan bases bring.

What's up tommyboy, with this sudden out of nowhere uptick in Purdue excellency, is the lafayette billiards van crew all showing up this weekend? I'll be smoking ribs nearby, come get some.

 

[Tommaker]

What's up tommyboy, with this sudden out of nowhere uptick in Purdue excellency, is the lafayette billiards van crew all showing up this weekend? I'll be smoking ribs nearby, come get some.

Outstanding! The van, sad to say, has seen it's last tailgate. But the folks are all still there. I'd conservatively say we may have close to 100 tailgaters. Just like the hey days of Purdue football...which we're headed back to!!! I'll try to stumble down your way at some point and drag Grovericus with me.

 

[JHetfield99]

Outstanding! The van, sad to say, has seen it's last tailgate. But the folks are all still there. I'd conservatively say we may have close to 100 tailgaters. Just like the hey days of Purdue football...which we're headed back to!!! I'll try to stumble down your way at some point and drag Grovericus with me.

Sounds excellent. All 100 better have bought tix. We need to sell this out. Are you guys going to be in your normal spot at bottom of Slayter?

 

[PurdueTiger]

Well,I would really be upset to see Michigan smoke Purdue this Saturday,but then everyone would quit worrying so much about Brohm leaving soon.

 

[punaj]

Tennessee keeps thinking they are national title contenders. They haven't even really been relevant since Fulmer and even then that was in the first half of his coaching career. They haven't been a serious threat in two decades now, so not in any of the recruits life time. That job has turned into revolving door for coaches and is a career killer.

What you are saying is Tenn is the IU basketball of college football?

 

[boilermaker75]

IMO, places like ND and UM, and most SEC schools, have unrealistic expectations. If you aren't in the hunt for a NC every year, your job is on the line. All coaches want to win, but I can't imagine all of them want that kind of [unrealistic] pressure.

All I know is, it's refreshing and exciting to see a competitive PU football team again.

I think Brohm would prefer to win a NC at Purdue than at a place like Alabama or OSU where it is expected. There is no doubt he can do it at Purdue. Mollenkopf and Tiller were building teams that could have done it.

 

[Indy_Rider]

I think Brohm would prefer to win a NC at Purdue than at a place like Alabama or OSU where it is expected. There is no doubt he can do it at Purdue. Mollenkopf and Tiller were building teams that could have done it.

And I think that has a lot to do with Hope's endorsement for him to take the job.

 

[ossim]

Yea, but Brohm like the rest of the football world knows that it's more difficult to win a NC at Purdue than probably 75% of the power 5 conference programs. He has less pressure to win it all and can definitely leave a bigger impact here than he would at other schools, but ultimately if his personal goal is to win it all, he would move on at some point. But I would expect before even thinking about that he would want to prove he can win a conference title or two here first. He's not leaving any time soon, and if he did it, it would probably only be for a city that reveres his family so much.

 

[Indy_Rider]

Yea, but Brohm like the rest of the football world knows that it's more difficult to win a NC at Purdue than probably 75% of the power 5 conference programs. He has less pressure to win it all and can definitely leave a bigger impact here than he would at other schools, but ultimately if his personal goal is to win it all, he would move on at some point. But I would expect before even thinking about that he would want to prove he can win a conference title or two here first. He's not leaving any time soon, and if he did it, it would probably only be for a city that reveres his family so much.

That makes no sense, if you win the Big, you are almost guaranteed to make the playoffs. I really think it will expand to 8 soon and the P5 conf champ will be an automatic in. So if you are in the a P5 conf, you have closer to the same chance as everyone else to win a NC if you are successful, so almost any job becomes lateral if you are competing for conference championships.

 

[TheGunner]

The model we need to follow to keep Brohm should be much like what Iowa has done in keeping Ferentz. Norm

That's the same name I was thinking of last night. I completely agree, we need to figure out a way to keep Brohm happy just like Iowa did with Ferentz

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

For those questioning money being the only factor in possibly losing Brohm:

Butch Jones at Tennessee made $4.11 million per year placing him 9th in the SEC but puts him in the 'range' of Malzahn @ Auburn ($4.73) who is #3. Jim McElwain @ Florida made roughly the same amount of $4.27 million.

Brohm's current contract is roughly $3.3 million per year which places him and would rank him 7th in the B1G with the capacity to earn more if results show. That would place him #28 in the country according to last year's NCAAF Coaches Salary Graph by USA Today. I believe Purdue could easily match or exceed offers floated toward Brohm with the exception of the following programs:

SEC: Alabama & Texas A&M
B1G: OSU, Michigan, PSU
Big 12: Oklahoma & Texas
Pac 12: Oregon
ACC: FSU & Clemson

After the first 11 coaches in the USA Today poll from last year, the salary begins at $4.47 million for Clemson's Dabo Sweeney. I highly doubt that unless Brohm consistent has Purdue competing and/or winning conference titles, one of those programs will come sniffing around and be able to offer more than what Purdue could. At that point, I would imagine the AD would be able to match any offer or exceed it to make Brohm's decision to stay with what he has built at Purdue an incredibly hard one.

My point in a nutshell: If Purdue can and is willing to pay $3.3 million after the roughest patch of history...they'd be willing AND able to pay Brohm an additional $1-$2 million per year to ensure him staying. I have much more of a feeling it would have to do with other intangibles for Brohm such as increased support staff pay, increased salaries for assistant coaches, and new facilities/etc.

 

[TheGunner]

Get his kids into the strong West Lafayette school system, and he won't want to disrupt their education. Moving families is tough stuff.

This might be the greatest selling point to Brohm.

 

[ossim]

That makes no sense, if you win the Big, you are almost guaranteed to make the playoffs. I really think it will expand to 8 soon and the P5 conf champ will be an automatic in. So if you are in the a P5 conf, you have closer to the same chance as everyone else to win a NC if you are successful, so almost any job becomes lateral if you are competing for conference championships.

That's not really where I was going. I was talking about becoming a prominent program that can regularly compete for national championships. Even Tiller for all the great work he did here, went to one rose bowl and came close to a second in 10 years here. But Purdue is Purdue, and if Brohm feels like this is a program that can't regularly compete against UM, PSU, OSU, or UW for the resources or recruits he needs to get to that tier then he may want to move on. Saban left MSU not just want of money but because he knew MSU was always going to be second fiddle to Michigan and OSU and that as a result it didn't afford him the same opportunities to win a NC.

 

[boilermaker75]

For those questioning money being the only factor in possibly losing Brohm:

Butch Jones at Tennessee made $4.11 million per year placing him 9th in the SEC but puts him in the 'range' of Malzahn @ Auburn ($4.73) who is #3. Jim McElwain @ Florida made roughly the same amount of $4.27 million.

Brohm's current contract is roughly $3.3 million per year which places him and would rank him 7th in the B1G with the capacity to earn more if results show. That would place him #28 in the country according to last year's NCAAF Coaches Salary Graph by USA Today. I believe Purdue could easily match or exceed offers floated toward Brohm with the exception of the following programs:

SEC: Alabama & Texas A&M
B1G: OSU, Michigan, PSU
Big 12: Oklahoma & Texas
Pac 12: Oregon
ACC: FSU & Clemson

After the first 11 coaches in the USA Today poll from last year, the salary begins at $4.47 million for Clemson's Dabo Sweeney. I highly doubt that unless Brohm consistent has Purdue competing and/or winning conference titles, one of those programs will come sniffing around and be able to offer more than what Purdue could. At that point, I would imagine the AD would be able to match any offer or exceed it to make Brohm's decision to stay with what he has built at Purdue an incredibly hard one.

My point in a nutshell: If Purdue can and is willing to pay $3.3 million after the roughest patch of history...they'd be willing AND able to pay Brohm an additional $1-$2 million per year to ensure him staying. I have much more of a feeling it would have to do with other intangibles for Brohm such as increased support staff pay, increased salaries for assistant coaches, and new facilities/etc.

And once we finish paying off Hazel that frees about an extra $2 million.

 

[boilermaker75]

That's not really where I was going. I was talking about becoming a prominent program that can regularly compete for national championships. Even Tiller for all the great work he did here, went to one rose bowl and came close to a second in 10 years here. But Purdue is Purdue, and if Brohm feels like this is a program that can't regularly compete against UM, PSU, OSU, or UW for the resources or recruits he needs to get to that tier then he may want to move on. Saban left MSU not just want of money but because he knew MSU was always going to be second fiddle to Michigan and OSU and that as a result it didn't afford him the same opportunities to win a NC.

Tiller would have taken us much further if not for the impediment that was Morgan Burke.

For the same resources, Brohm can do a lot more than Saban can.

Saban had better resources at MSU than Tiller did at Purdue and Tiller owned him.

 

[Tommaker]

Sounds excellent. All 100 better have bought tix. We need to sell this out. Are you guys going to be in your normal spot at bottom of Slayter?

Yep, bottom SW corner. I've had at least 5 requests for tickets this weekend! Here's hoping we pack'em in!

 

[blockm2]

while the Big Ten East is already shaping up to be a Royal Rumble for the foreseeable future, I look forward to the West division revving up to several top 25 teams annually as well.

 

[ahhculdee]

The other schools can piss off. He's our Brohm now. Go hire your retreads.

 

[BoilerGal74]

I think he would be a great fit for Tennessee. He be closer to getting a national title at Tennessee than of course being at Purdue. Look at the recruiting geographical area compared to Purdue. No... Money is not an issue but a national title is. Plus look at the living areas why would anyone want to live in West Lafayette when you could live in a million dollar house in the quite smoky mountains. Stephanie White did it for all the reasons I mentioned above...and of course she went for the money too... Fever were paying her Peanuts. Great move Stephanie Mr. Brohm not far behind.

I don't see him going to a school who's entire athletic department is as corrupt as Tennessee's year in and year out. Fans aren't the only ones who notices such corruption.... CJB has too much class to even consider going there....surely.

 

[ImRonBurgandy?]

I listen to CBS Sports Radio quite a bit out here in Houston. Brohm is getting national pub for sure. I just caught the last part of Brian Jones speaking and he was talking about someone pouching Brohm. Tiki & Tierney had Nick Hardwick on today and Tierney really likes Purdue and was talking about taking them +10. By the way Bernard Pollard was on Gio and Jones and it sounds like he as a recruiting website. Purdue beats Michigan it's going to grab all the national headline over the weekend. Haven't been this excited for a Purdue game in quite a while. Hopefully, our defensive players will be able to go close to 100%.

 

[bonefish1]

I think he would be a great fit for Tennessee. He be closer to getting a national title at Tennessee than of course being at Purdue. Look at the recruiting geographical area compared to Purdue. No... Money is not an issue but a national title is. Plus look at the living areas why would anyone want to live in West Lafayette when you could live in a million dollar house in the quite smoky mountains. Stephanie White did it for all the reasons I mentioned above...and of course she went for the money too... Fever were paying her Peanuts. Great move Stephanie Mr. Brohm not far behind.

Tennessee is a dump. The only thing good that comes out of TN is whiskey and fireworks.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Tennessee is a dump. The only thing good that comes out of TN is whiskey and fireworks.

Seriously? I think it's a beautiful state.

 

[mnpurdue]

Fishing on Dale Hollow Lake in Tennessee is really good as well.