Colvin CANNOT be a primary ball handler right now, so reallly all he can play is the 3rd guard spot.
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Back to the topic of the thread - only 26 minutes for Braden last night. Me likey.
4-4, 1-1, a double double and flirted again with a triple double. He will get one eventually!!!
But good to see his stroke was fine and yet again he controlled the game. Had a dumb TO, tryin to be fancy with a pass but that’s OK…as long as it doesn’t hurt us. But kid is a gamer and has until Sunday to rest. Hope we can get another road win and also get Colvin and Heide more mins!
We know Braden is so important that many worry about that focal point many have about the tourney. Purdue does need a fresh Braden and as you said...some games are more taxing than others...some due to the style and some due to a previous game in addition. It is not just Braden, there are many posts fixated on the tourney that want to compare this or that they see today with what they believe were the reason (many times not plural) for Purdue losing in the past as though a simple problem was in play in the past and believe that same problem exists today from time to time. I know anything can happen when the ball is poorly tossed up, but this team is the most complete team Matt has had and can play different ways with some depth. This is a very good team
Bottom line is that some are really worried that Myles is not improving since he is not playing much. Myles has improved a LOT with his on ball defense. He gets down in his stance and plays with effort. he got a bad foul I believe last night. Myles has improved in spite of some afraid he won't or hasn't. He went in around the 9 minute mark last night and I think went 3 for 3 behind the arc. He is a shooter adapting to an entirely different role on the team than what he was used to playing.
I can't comment on his off ball D, because I never really watched him away last night, but that is has been an issue in the past. I typically catch Matt and some players after the game on 96.5 and Matt made a comment about Myles. Basically Matt said "Myles is going to be fabulous for us" and that doesn't sound like someone that isn't aware of Myles potential, but also grounded in some issues Myles has at this time...coupled with some good players in front of him at this point.
I think the BTT was detrimental last year. We looked exhausted, especially the guards, by Sunday.
Would honestly not mind a Saturday exit, or even Friday. Braden or Edey might have to come down with a case of clammy hands for that to happen though.
I asked a question in a previous post someplace and I truly don't know the answer. I'm unaware of any player talking about getting beat in the NCAA tourney as to being tired as a result of the BTT. It could be true, and never stated, and I know that...and it might not be true? I know specific reasons why Purdue lost the last 3 and unsure I would list fatigue as the reason...especially the two before last year.
I know for a few years Matt's team has won the first game after the BTT with whatever side effects of fatigue that were present. All the Purdue players and coaches want to win every game and so if they get beat it in the BTT will not be due to not caring. That said, I personally would have no issue NOT having a tourney, but if it is there Purdue will want to win it.
He is 7 assists away from his total last year and 61 away from the all time season record of 207….he avgs 5.5 the rest of the way in the regular season and he will get there and if he stays at his avg of 7, he will beat it by 20. Doesn’t account for the BTT or actual tourney.
Keep it going, Peaky B!
They aren’t ones to make excuses, but there’s no question some of them(especially Braden) looked a step slow by Sunday.
Then you turn around and play a team that is quicker than you to begin with…
Braden was tired Sunday. 36 intense minutes against IU and 39 minutes up and down the court they way he goes could make anyone tired at the end of the game. Still, we have no idea if fatigue has played a role in the NCAA tourney as a result of the BTT. It may, but we don't know that. We shall see how Matt plays the BTT to know what Matt thinks
Sorry - Was referring to Sunday of the BTT. That Penn State game was a slog.
Agree to disagree on whether or not fatigue played a role in the NCAA last year. I think it did but obviously cannot prove it.
As tuned in as Matt is to NBA analytics, I am a bit surprised we haven’t seen any NBA style “load management” yet.
Again as I already said in a post to you. There is nothing to agree or disagree with in what I said. I have stated that I do NOT know that it has. If you believe it has...good for you. Who am I to say you are wrong? If you changed your stance and said it had no effect...good for you. Again, who am I to say you are wrong? I'm only stating that your concern is a legitimate concern, but there is conflicting data for such. Nobody said you were wrong or right. If you say you really don't know...then you agree with me
“Still, we have no idea if fatigue has played a role in the NCAA tourney as a result of the BTT.”
I think it 100% did. So we agree to disagree.
Good in earlier poss you said you believed that but wasn't sure. Now we do disagree in that I'm not 100% sure.
We have. Paint hasn’t played a single player 82 games yet.
I’m banking on Braden having a better 2023 summer than he did in 2022 with the foot. 🤞
I remember the days when I was 100% sure about anything.
I love this post. The most ignorant thing I hear from basketball fans (not stupid just uninformed) is that players only get better if they play in games.
The level of coaching in practice that Myles is receiving at Purdue is light years ahead of anything he has received in the past on any consistent basis. He wants to get better and isn’t afraid to work. I’m still not certain that he won’t have an impact in games before the end of the year. If that happens, it will be because he gets better in practice and watching film and feels confident in what he needs to do within the team framework on both end of the floor
Here is my view on Myles. He will be a very good player for Purdue...sometime. He has the ability to flip a close game...either way and I'm unsure many understand it can happen in wins and losses. His on ball defense has improved a lot. His concentration away from the ball can get better, but we are talking about a mental side and he is a freshman. His on ball or physical abilities help him on the ball improve as well as his effort. He has a nice stroke and can put the ball in the basket. His historical playing on offense has allowed him to dribble as long as needed to get his shot. Purdue runs a lot of sets or plays and those are based upon timing and quick decisions and play. That is not a strength right now for Myles and so the team play sometimes get hindered or slowed down with the ball too long in his hands.
Matt has tried to take advantage of his shooting by putting him on the baseline most of the season. Now we are seeing him get the ball towards the top more and not necessarily to shoot it, but to engage in play outside of just shooting and so I see a bit more trust there.
What I haven't seen and what Matt does not do...unless he has a dominant 5 man typically is some isolation. He tried to isolate Zach with some spacing and did that with Haas as well. You don't see him clear out the court for one on one where someone can drive the ball...perhaps with a defender being in foul trouble. This is were Myles could be valuable under the right circumstances. If Purdue somewhere down the line for some reason is really struggling to score to the point that Matt can win it in the last possession (and again Purdue on the whole struggling...maybe Zach on the bench?). Then Myles playing a bit of ISO ball with an anticipated less defensive player (little scouting on Myles) where he can take two or three dribbles and get to his spot...levitate and stroke it could be another nice usage of Myles. I haven't given up on Myles getting more minutes the last third of this season. I don't see him being the key to a long NCAA run, but I do see him possessing the innate ability to be of help in that run.
Very well said. I agree and I think he will have the ability to help us in a game during March that can help propel us to the next round. Hope he will be ready.
Only way Colvin gets more minutes is what I said before...we're way up and down enough he's not going to hurt us.
He came in when we weren’t up that much and hit a 3 when no one else was hitting. Hope he sees more time during Feb
There's a big difference between a guy understanding the defensive schemes and being physically unable to contain his man on D. Loyer likely understands the defensive concepts better and occasionally gets burned by better athletes. I feel like that's less of a liability than a guy who doesn't quite grasp the concepts and creates breakdowns that can affect what everyone else on D is doing.
It will be interesting to see What Myles does over the summer as well as the last of this season. He so far is relegated to spot shooting whether in the half or transition. I did think I saw him off a screen weeks ago.
I think we will see a more up and down game next year and that should be an advantage to quicker players "if" all else is the same. Right now we have a freshman that rarely gets mentioned and has been great for a freshman and that is Cam who plays very well in an uptempo game. Cam is well ahead on D for a first year player and should play well in an up tempo game next year. Hopefully Myles works enough to play a 2 or 3.
This team next year can be great if Caleb takes a step forward on O. He too runs the court well and may get better on O with more minutes. How important is that to Caleb?
here is a bit from Braden talking about Zach. Braden was a bit surprised he took that shot since Purdue was only up 20. This should put in perspective a players perspective on whether a game is truly safe or not.
Yep - on the break from Smitty, IIRC - @ 29-19 to extend to 13. From the right wing. That's about when Purdue really started to take control for good.
The ability to come into a big game, cold off the bench, and just start stroking jumpers, is really rare.Yep - on the break from Smitty, IIRC - @ 29-19 to extend to 13. From the right wing. That's about when Purdue really started to take control for good.
Do you recall Lee Rose and Scooby? THAT was Scooby's job.
Mechanics have to be pretty good since there is no rhythm to get in the flow
Before my time. I started watching around 83-84.Do you recall Lee Rose and Scooby? THAT was Scooby's job.
I’d say mechanics and confidence are the 2 key requirements to be on off the bench gunner. Myles seems to have both covered.
Do you recall Lee Rose and Scooby? THAT was Scooby's job.
Mike "Scooby" Scearce, who also played two seasons under Keady. He was fun to watch......had a big game against Indiana his last year - made that one really enjoyable as we gave it to Knight and Blab all game.
always confidence and mechanics not only helps with confidence due to increased success, but may not have as many shots to get it going. Myles knows he can shoot as does his teammates. I don't remember Scooby's mechanics much other than I think he had a lot of arch???
I had forgot that he played for Gene. This is why I need you to read my posts and add to them things I forgetMike "Scooby" Scearce, who also played two seasons under Keady. He was fun to watch......had a big game against Indiana his last year - made that one really enjoyable as we gave it to Knight and Blab all game.
I recall some things, but those things I forget I don't remember.Hey oh.....what am I? a freakin library? you dirty rat bastard, TJ.....you think I'm just going to this for free out of the goodness of my freakin heart? ......read this.....badabing..... zooom....
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I don't know.....had ya goin there.....a little bit.....
Not sure if Scooby played much for Gene and was used more by Lee or I just recall some things that were a significant emotional event? You also have an uncanny way of gathering up data VERY quickly and so ...you are like a library...modernized!Similar threads
