Biggie Who? Josh Jackson Crystal Ball Now Trending To MSU
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"Like to think Izzo ranks".......Your full of sheet. List the best coaches in the country and Izzo's name comes up among the top 5 by anybody. Izzo has like a top 3 win percentage in the tourney. Certain hall of famer.
Your stupidly is boundless to make the comments you did above. No fan of college basketball agrees with you. You people are truly pathetic.
Stupid posts like you made prove it.
340 Duster = cheap wannabe muscle car. 340Duster340 = cheap wannabe basketball fan and troll.
You need to get off this board and stop insulting posters here. All you are doing is providing a wonderful example of immaturity. You allow yourself to get sucked into these endless debates about nothing, then you respond with laughable rage when folks prove you wrong or disagree with you. This post I am responding to is a perfect example of you being incredibly stupid about message boards, and making an idiot of yourself. Grow up please. Then come back and we can discuss basketball. No one here has any respect for your opinion. You are an embarrassment to all the good MSU fans I know.
340 Duster = cheap wannabe muscle car. 340Duster340 = cheap wannabe basketball fan and troll.
You need to get off this board and stop insulting posters here. All you are doing is providing a wonderful example of immaturity. You allow yourself to get sucked into these endless debates about nothing, then you respond with laughable rage when folks prove you wrong or disagree with you. This post I am responding to is a perfect example of you being incredibly stupid about message boards, and making an idiot of yourself. Grow up please. Then come back and we can discuss basketball. No one here has any respect for your opinion. You are an embarrassment to all the good MSU fans I know.
Suck it dude. Your pathetic.
And the 71 Duster I own is worth 30k. 10 times more than It was new. Your finally right about something, it was cheap new. Guess what , that defined muscle cars. A Roadrunner is one of the top muscle cars of all time, and was the base model( below GTX and Satellite). Light, cheap, biggest motor available for that model, the definition of a muscle car.
Those muscle cars restored and in excellent condition are rare and valuable, and very good investments.
You seem to fail miserably every time you attempt to use your cranium... Lol
"aiding and abetting"
Get the f*ck off our site duster.............you're an embarrassment to MSU and Mopar fans
Get the f*ck off our site duster.............you're an embarrassment to MSU and Mopar fans
Izzo is no Coach K and if you guys keep pretending like he is then you are the ignorant one. Izzo's calling card is the number of times he has finished in the top 4. Coach K has been there more often and has actually won it 5 times. I'll take 5 of 12 over 1 of 7 any day of the week.
Also in the discussion are coaches like Roy Williams, John Calipari, Rick Pitino, Billy Donovan (now in NBA but active coach with multiple NCAA titles), Jim Boeheim, and Bill Self are all guys with one or more titles you could argue for as well. Then there are a host of other guys that are younger and could easily eclipse Izzo given time like Sean Miller, Kevin Ollie, and Brad Stevens (should he come back to college basketball) just to name a few. Of course, that is ignoring older coaches who have done just about everything except win a title like Bo Ryan who I've always felt was the better coach too.
You can certainly argue that Izzo is a top 5 coach but it's not a slam dunk and it's not unreasonable to think he's not depending on the criteria one is using. I'm sure in your Pollyanna homer view he is above reproach but not all of us live in MSU fantasy land and can see his faults. If we start talking all-time greats with retired greats like Wooden, Knight, and Dean Smith then Izzo barely even makes that discussion.
Why try and lie about what I said. Izzo is without a doubt considered among the top coaches in the country. Top 5 probably, top 7 if you want to argue. No matter, he is at the top of the profession, has the second longest NCAA tourney streak of any active coach, is among the top 3 in NCAA tourney win percentage, has a national title and a lot of FF appearances. By all accounts he is a sure fire hall of famer
This all speaks to long term consistency and success. He has few peers regards his success.
Why you would try and twist what I said is beyond me. Jealousy of the success the MSU program has as the most elite program in the conference for a number of years. I don't know.
You pick on me personally, but you know nothing I am saying isn't true, maybe you should grow up and look in the mirror.
This all speaks to long term consistency and success. He has few peers regards his success.
Why you would try and twist what I said is beyond me. Jealousy of the success the MSU program has as the most elite program in the conference for a number of years. I don't know.
You pick on me personally, but you know nothing I am saying isn't true, maybe you should grow up and look in the mirror.
Sorry if the truth hurts. If I were going to be jealous of a program, there would be a number of programs ahead of MSU. I actually like most of them. Then again, not all of them had Appling and Payne playing for them.
Most elite in conference for a period of years?
How do you come up with that?
You haven't won an outright title since '09.
In that time Michigan and OSU have equaled your success.
In that same period OSU has more conference tourney championships.
During the same period you have 3 final fours. Michigan and Wisconsin both have two and are equal with MSU with two championship game appearances.
Hardly what I would call elite when comparing conference teams. One extra final four.
Wow, impressive.
Let's make it more clear. Since Izzo took over at MSU, the Spartans have been the benchmark nationally for the conference. No rational person would disagree. Ask any pundit who the best program in the B1G has been in the last 20 years and nobody will say anybody other than MSU. Do you honestly disagree with this?
Btw, Michigan had one FF appearance , not two.
I notice you qualify conference titles with " outright" to try and make your flimsy point. Your pathetic. Since 09, MSU has two conference titles, two seconds, and a third. Remarkable consistency.
I counted your shared titles. You tie with Michigan
if you want to count shared titles? You may want to drop the word elite from your argument.
They celebrate finishing 2nd, 3rd and 4th so much. Why would we not expect them to
Love it when biased, homer message board fan speaks for everyone. Guess what? You speak for yourself only.
You want use elite?
Use it right.
There is only one team to win three outright titles in the time frame you want to use, that is if you go back one more year to 1994. That's Purdue. Nobody has done it since. Note the word "only".
Up until just a few years ago there was only one team with a winning overall record against all B1G teams. Once again that was Purdue and nobody has ever equaled that feat. See the word "only" was used again.
In the time frame you chose, only one team has had an undefeated home record. Once again, Purdue. Yep, there's rhe word, "only again". MSU came close in '98 but lost to one team, oh look, it was Purdue. I guess we can tag the word "only" to Purdue there as well.
Finally, there is only one team with more B1G championships then any other team. Once again, Purdue. Oops there's that "only" word again.
You want to cherry pick stats and timeframes to fit your argument. Anyone can do that.
If you would have said that the '98 MSU class was elite. I would agree. That team was head and shoulders above everyone else for four years. But since that class graduated, there isn't one thing MSU has done that at least one or two other teams have done. You have one extra final four, but everyone knows that if not for a missed free throw by Louisville with 4 seconds left, then that accomplishment would have never happened.
MSU has been consistently good since izzo took over. But you haven't been much better then other teams during that period and hardly enough to call yourself "the elite" team.
Oh be careful - you might hurt his feelings. He seems to have his own self-worth so closely tied to the MSU basketball team that any disparaging comments might really cause his anguish.
By the way, that 340 Duster is only worth $30k if some one really wanted to buy that cheap piece of shit car. I would rank many more muscle cars ahead of it in both looks and performance.
By the way, that 340 Duster is only worth $30k if some one really wanted to buy that cheap piece of shit car. I would rank many more muscle cars ahead of it in both looks and performance.
340 Duster is probably sulking, and spitting into the burgers he's frying. How could anyone turn down a chance to play for HOF coach Izzo? That Jackson guy must be nuts, eh? ... and he's a Detroit boy too. The one #1 player ever from Michigan, and Izzo blows it. It will be good for their humility, I hope.
Anyone who types "Your pathetic" and then tries to belittle someone about using their "cranium" is always good for a quick laugh.
He was pretty funny. He didn't have a clue about the game-within-the-game I was playing with him. Just dumber than a stump.
Probably not even an MSU grad/student. Just hangs around the south side of Lansing at the body shop talking to his buddy who actually owns a rusting 340 Duster, parked under a torn and faded tarp. Talking about "How great it's going to be..."
Ha! Now that is funny. Worth 30k to who? You? The 340 was anything but a muscle car. Didn't do anything at the strip. Wouldn't spree seen on a road course. The 340 was nothing compared to a Boss 351, Z. Etc.
I remember Hot Rod magazine road testing the Hemi Cuda. One of their conclusions was that they would give up a 100 hp to have a car that the windows and dash didn't sound like they were going to fall out. LOL
By the way, a good investment? Original cost may be $3k but att he costs of owning it, AND restoring it a couple of times and your investment theory rattles like your car.
Want an investment? How about a 289 or 427 Cobra. Now ur talking.
Trans Am Cudas had 340 engines. A 340 was a bored out 318 and produced something like 325 HP.
But the car to have is a 64 1/2 Mustang convertible with a 260 ci and automatic transmission.
My brother had a hemi roadrunner and my 340 dart would absolutely take him the first 1/4 mile. After that t was mostly his tail lights.
A cobra is an awesome car but I wouldn't call it a muscle car nor would I say I ever saw one at a drag strip racing.
Heller, I have to respectfully disagree. The first Cobras at the strip were in 1963. It was the 289 Cobra called the Dragon Snake. It ran class A Sports against 327 Vettes. The Cobra ran in the mid 13 second qtr mile times. The Vettes were in the mid 15's. At the Indy Nationals that year it was the talk of the show. In 1965 the 427 Cobra again dominated the 427 Vettes running in the high tens while the Vette was in the low 12's. For Decades the 427 Cobra held the 0-100-0 records of less than 10 seconds. It was definitely a muscle car. You can google it. Also, if you look at the street performance of the 340 Dart it doesn't compare to the hemi cornet. Not close. The muscle cars were defined more by the big block in little cars than any other factor. The 350 Chevy, 351 Ford, and 340 Mopar were cool cars but the real muscle cars were big blocks.
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I have to agree. The '65 - '66 427 Cobra was my dream car. I wanted one so bad I could taste it. IIRC the MSRP was about $8,000 back in those days. That doesn't sound like much now, but that was about three times what a "normal car" would cost new from the dealer.
The 350 Nova and 340 Duster were cars of the same ilk. They were extraordinarily cheap cars with moderate sized engines. Their reputation was based on a few modified cars runninig at the strips. On the street, they were usually the loser when they went against true muscle cars. They usually rusted away before they made it to their "second life" as a restored classic, mostly because no one gave a shit about them.
I first road in a 289 Cobra in 63 at Jerry Alderman Ford on Keystone. From that moment I was addicted to the Cobra. My Pix is a Superformance replica with a 665 hp, nitrous fed Ford 460 weighing in at 2800 lbs with me in it. Most people don't look at the hp/lbs ratio. This car has no A/C, power steering, traction control, abs, etc but is a real beast and fast as hell. It is the epitome of the muscle car.
You are my hero!
You are 100% correct about the HP to Weight ratio. That was one of the reasons the Corbra was so damned fast. What you are driving is a beast at best. You should drive it up here at the Dream Cruise. You might be surprised at how many Cobras and replica Cobras are running up and down Woodward.
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