Families. Or Women and Children arriving at our borders looking for better economic circumstances are not asylum seekers.
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It is when trillions of dollars of our money was spent there and NOBODY WANTED TO STAY.
People are living under bridges in this country because they want to. Hell, we already spend $800+ billion a year on welfare programs and we still have the poor. I trust you didn’t rest the report that I posted about the Taliban? Yes a lot of people here do care. Do you remember why we went there?
That’s not the first step. The first step.. stop the Monroe doctrine and the wars overseas.
75% of Americans can’t afford a $600 emergency. That’s not a bunch of people wanting to struggle .. we live in a failed system. Nobody in this country wants what you want. They want out of these wars.
Yeah moron.. that was a two part post..
We’re you alive on 9-11? We bombed the Taliban because they harbored Bin Laden. Muslims werent trying to come to the US because we bombed them. Such foolish comments.
I was. If It was just about what you say it was about then why did we go to Iraq? By the time obama was president why were we bombing in 7 countries?
The refugees flooded Europe when ISIS filled the vacuum of US withdrawal from Iraq Not because we were fighting in seven countries, as you say. There is no question that we have made ongoing poor decisions in the Middle East. Biden just joined to parade of failure by pulling out the few troops and military support that was keeping the Taliban at bay. . With our withdrawal we have created yet another crisis there Where foreign fighters are joining the fray.
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We never belonged in Iraq in the first place. You wanted to go, I didn’t. That was where the poor decisions started. These people want to play games in the sand to Jack resources for corporations .. that’s why they lied the first time we went to Iraq BEFORE 9-11. Because this was never about security. It was about wasting all of our money to enrich the few. Iraq should be the country it was in 2003. There were no WMDs, George bush jokes about how there were no WMDs … he ****ing jokes about it moron.. and we had no ****ing business thereThe refugees flooded Europe when ISIS filled the vacuum of US withdrawal from Iraq Not because we were fighting in seven countries, as you say. There is no question that we have made ongoing poor decisions in the Middle East. Biden just joined to parade of failure by pulling out the few troops and military support that was keeping the Taliban at bay. . With our withdrawal we have created yet another crisis there Where foreign fighters are joining the fray.
Map shows foreign jihadis flocking to Afghanistan to launch terror war
FOREIGN fighters are flocking to Afghanistan to launch a new terror war on the West as the Taliban tears through the country. Jihadis from the UK, Syria, Libya and central Asia have been heading to…
I am amazed that Americans so easily accept spending enormous funds to keep tens of thousands of troops in Europe and Japan for 75 years and gripe about keeping a few thousand troops in Afghanistan where there was fantastic progress over the years in basic human rights.
Ask the families of the people who died in the Twin Towers, Pentagon, and Shanksville. Dumb comment, P4L.
Initially, it was correct Bruce. Between tribal corruption and thousands of years of history, we were never going to make Afghanistan look anything like what we wanted it to look like.
Right. Trumpers bemoaning this should remember that Trump promised to withdraw by May 1st.
Well time will tell if we see terrorist activities regain a footing through the Taliban. In addition there were significant improvement in living conditions for Afghans with a major impact on women. Time will tell, whats done is done.
The silence from the Saudis and the rest of the Islamic world is interesting. I still think they are a major problem that are in the pockets of both parties. They are terrible with human rights but seem to get a pass.
I don't have a problem with getting out but the arrogance to believe the Taliban would let our people leave in a leisurely manner is a problem. Clearly no planning was made for a worst case scenario. Arrogance and the lack of planning led to the Bay of Pigs, the fall of Saigon, Benazir, and now Biden's Folly.
The same thing was done with the Kurds in Syria after they beat down ISIS for us. It hasn't been a good two years on the diplomatic front for the US.
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i don’t think the Saudi’s are anywhere near as bad as the Taliban although I do agree with you. That’s why I was happy to see the US becoming a primary producer of oil so that we could not be beholding to any country in the ME. This whole situation is so rediculous and maddening but by handing back this government to the Taliban we are again putting our homeland at risk.
You act like Afghanistan was under the ownership and rule of the US. We didn't sell them out, they sold themselves out. Collectively- and pay attention to that word before you spout off about 9/11- our homeland has never and will never be at risk to the Taliban.
Stated with the same confidence that Joe displayed when he told us we wouldn't experience a Saigon moment in Afghanistan.
Ownership and rule of the US? Not! The Taliban harbored Bin Laden and gave him protection. To deny that is foolishly wrong but you know that. To abandon them they way we did was criminal.
Not! I’m no fan of the Saudi’s but your comment is disingenuous.
Hmmm. I guess you are the all knowing one.
This really isn't a partisan issue. Biden administration has been getting blasted from all sides on this one. A rare moment of unity among a lot of the media in United States.
Biden was the final person to screw up what has been screwed up for 15 years. I don't disagree.
You are correct but it appears you are using the other events to rationalize Biden's. This is by far the worst situation of the whole 20 years. A total FUBAR. We should have continued the stalemate.
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Nothing - nothing - in that article refutes a single thing I have said. The Taliban care about the Taliban and creating a caliphate. They didn't give a shit about the US before we invaded. AQ is global in reach. Whether they remain that way after being crushed since their last forays into international terrorism remains to be seen... as I said.
There is no question the Biden admin screwed this up. The point most are trying to make is there was unlikely to be any solution that didn't result in the Taliban regaining power in Afghanistan. We botched that when we turned our attention to Iraq in 2003, and even Obama's troop surge wasn't designed to crush the Taliban the way we should have in the first place. Bush screwed it up. Obama screwed it up. Trump kind of tied our hands with his agreement in 2020, and Biden screwed it up.
Yes that's fine. There was definitely a good argument for getting out of Afghanistan. There were also decent arguments for keeping a limited presence there for strategic reasons. But neither Trump or Biden wanted that, so that's fine.
That was a lot of words to spend agreeing with me. Are you just used to picking fights with me, so you assume disagreement where there is none?
