Louisville needs the death penalty for their entire athletic department. They are beyond rehabilitation.
Assistant Coaches arrested for Fraud
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I could see one instance of Pitino not knowing an assistant coach was possibly doing something slightly nefarious...but this appears to be instance 4 or 5. At some point you clean out the rats nest to get rid of everything.
Wow, even in a best case scenario for Louisville it's hard to imagine Bowen or Pitino will be in the building when Purdue plays them this season. Wonder if any of their other players are caught up in this.
Wire taps, video surveillance,etc.
They aren’t messing around...and they aren’t done yet either. “We know your playbook”
And the NCAA didn’t know until today.
They aren’t messing around...and they aren’t done yet either. “We know your playbook”
And the NCAA didn’t know until today.
Dakich is on his radio show now talking about it. Saying that he hopes IU doesn't get implicated but he always wondered about Bryant and Prea. But I would also be curious about Vonleh.
Noah Vonleh had offers from UNC and alouisville and was out of New Hampshire.
Bryant came from Huntington Prep (and so did Miles Bridges. Curious to see if Izzo gets dragged into this. It wouldn't shock me one bit).
Perea was local but always had controversy surrounding him.
Initially I didn't think IU would be involved and with Dakich making some comments, I am not so sure now. You may see them dragged right into the mix. Those three players are ones to keep in mind as this thing progresses. The coaches are facing federal charges with serious time, you better believe they will start talking. This could be a HUGE shakeup. I would love to see all of the cheating coaches gone.
Noah Vonleh had offers from UNC and alouisville and was out of New Hampshire.
Bryant came from Huntington Prep (and so did Miles Bridges. Curious to see if Izzo gets dragged into this. It wouldn't shock me one bit).
Perea was local but always had controversy surrounding him.
Initially I didn't think IU would be involved and with Dakich making some comments, I am not so sure now. You may see them dragged right into the mix. Those three players are ones to keep in mind as this thing progresses. The coaches are facing federal charges with serious time, you better believe they will start talking. This could be a HUGE shakeup. I would love to see all of the cheating coaches gone.
This is a federal investigation though and the coaching staff has all turned over since then. I don't think the FBI will go after schools and not sure the NCAA will do much, especially at schools were staff has turned over, they are going to have a black enough eye from this and digging into those situations only makes them look worse.
It will be more of the schools where the staff is still there and active in this stuff that will have to worry.
Maybe this is why TC is gone two years removed from winning Big10 COY honors.....or maybe not, in my opinion, he was living on borrowed time for years....regardless, I blame TC for his brother in law's comments concerning Purdue's facilities....
the ncaa should probably be dissolved. It is not performing as advertised. "Committed to fairness"....HAAAAAAAAAA!
I am sorry, but I don't see how you can rule IU out in this scandal ,seeing how Arch is the brother of the head coach of one of the schools involved. It seems fishy that they have the #2 ranked recruiting class in the country and they are an Adidas school. Doesn't Arizona have the #1 ranked recruiting class . hmm
The NCAA will have no choice to open an investigation after the FBI is done especially once more becomes public. IU can still be punished and should be if they cheated. All of the teams implicated should be punished and all of the coaches fired. This is a very big deal and the NCAA is all about money. They won't want it affecting revenue.
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Even if they aren’t, I would think all Adidas schools are taking a hit. If you’re a clean top notch recruit, I think you’re steering clear from all Adidas schools until this dust settles.
I will ask, who was wired ? Was it the players? Was Bowen working for the FBI to expose these schools? is that why he refused to sign by the deadline but wanted to visit more schools? is it possible bowen is the good guy, and the snitch?
the recruiting of la Lum has always seemed rather suspect.
the recruiting of la Lum has always seemed rather suspect.
There was an article posted last season about LaLu and their relationship with a shoe company. I don't remember the details, but the article also mentioned Izzo being there all the time on recruiting trips. Wish we could find that article as it may apply. I think the shoe company in this case is Nike.
No I don't KNOW and doubt that you do either
Remember I said this recruiting stuff is dirty well with what just happened today it's coming to light. Been going on for years and now the FBI has gotten involved and none can run and hide now.
I just don't see any hint of a signal (yet) that IU is implicated. I saw IU boards today asking if Swanigan/Barnes could now be big trouble for Purdue - I don't see any signal (yet) of that either.
That doesn't mean that Vonleh's family or Barnes didn't get a little sweetener from a shoe company; just mean that wasn't where the feds had sources and caught people doing it.
Kenny Johnson is likely in it deep, but he left IU in early 2014 and the investigation didn't start until over a year later.
Remember; it is overwhelmingly likely that, in order to be caught up in this, the player needed to be bribe-worthy.
As for IU's current highly-ranked class? That ranking is largely a product of quantity, but no one they have signed for 2018 is bribe-worthy IMO.
That doesn't mean that Vonleh's family or Barnes didn't get a little sweetener from a shoe company; just mean that wasn't where the feds had sources and caught people doing it.
Kenny Johnson is likely in it deep, but he left IU in early 2014 and the investigation didn't start until over a year later.
Remember; it is overwhelmingly likely that, in order to be caught up in this, the player needed to be bribe-worthy.
As for IU's current highly-ranked class? That ranking is largely a product of quantity, but no one they have signed for 2018 is bribe-worthy IMO.
Yep. By having two 7-footers on the roster so he could spend most time at the 4.
Far more likely that it was primarily because his guardian had a positive relationship with the university. But, there were lots and lots of schools that would have welcomed Swanigan for any position on the court, and had their share of talented bigs to go with him. That doesn't mean there was a problem, but with him (or a kid like Vonleh) unlike with Tim Priller or Travis Carroll, there is the possibility.
All I'm saying is:
- The only players that really are likely to matter in this investigation are the ones who were worth paying money to get. IU and Purdue both had those.
- Given all of the players/families that get paid, even if you did, the odds that you got caught this week are quite slim.
Barnes didn't need bribe money. His net worth is something like 10 million. Like TC said, Caleb went to the school that could showcase his skills for the NBA. Sure, Barnes is probably biased towards Purdue, but he didn't need any money.
If Dackick is worried about Vonleh and Bryant enough to talk about his school on the radio, I'd be more concerned if I were an IU fan.
sourcing a yahoo article on this, the text reads
"The operation that the feds laid out is college basketball recruiting 101. It began when a prominent financial planner from the sports world was ensnared in a securities fraud case and turned into a cooperating witness. He was able to bring an undercover FBI agent along as a supposed assistant for meetings, payouts, recorded conversations and so on."
"The operation that the feds laid out is college basketball recruiting 101. It began when a prominent financial planner from the sports world was ensnared in a securities fraud case and turned into a cooperating witness. He was able to bring an undercover FBI agent along as a supposed assistant for meetings, payouts, recorded conversations and so on."
Of course Barnes doesn't need money...he wants money!
That's how a guy gets to be worth $10 million via the unseemly business of representing athletes.
And, do you really think that IU was the only place Vonleh could have parlayed his skills into a lotto selection, or that Purdue was the only place that Swanigan could have "showcase(d) his skills for the NBA"?!?
I think that's a myopic take on the reality that has been at least partly exposed today.
Yea if this doesn't shine some light on what Purdue is up against in recruiting for some on this board then I don't know what will.
I might also add that it would be surprising if Adidas is the only company involved in activities such as these.
I might also add that it would be surprising if Adidas is the only company involved in activities such as these.
I agree. So far the investigation seems to have centered around a couple of financial advisers/managers. It was one of those guys who was arrested by the FBI, lead the FBI to the NCAA bribery issue, and then allowed FBI agents to be present & record meetings in exchange for some sort of leniency. It seems those particular advisers were somehow involved with every coach or Adidas rep that has been arrested...so far.
The FBI clearly stated their investigation is ongoing. The newly arrested Adidas guys could certainly make deals and implicate other advisers who could then lead to even more dirty assistant coaches, schools, and shoe reps. I guess one Adidas rep was a former Nike guy, so that could potentially ensnare a whole new set of recruits/schools as well. I don't think anyone knows for sure how far this will go, but it seems the national reporters who follow NCAAB (and football) think it could be huge.
Barnes is not, per the rules, allowed to represent collegiate athletes. Please don't imply such.
How could Rosie and his adopted son be in trouble? Give me a hypothetical if you know one or one that is being suggested? I mean you don't think $100,000 or so would be enough to ruin Rosie's position do you?
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100% speculation.
The fact that Matt Painter has only landed one 5* kid in his tenure tells me that there hasn't been much of an extra-curricular financial incentive for these types of players to choose Purdue. Swanigan was an exception case where the family didn't need the money.
I trust Ms. Reed when she states that Matt Painter is honest and does things by the book.
Has anyone looked into the Russians?
If you watch college bball at all you'd realize why any talented post player might be drawn to Purdue. Not many programs get the ball in the post like we do. And there aren't many programs that had a player the quality of AJ Hammons (backed up by another 7 footer in Haas) that virtually made it impossible for Swanigan to play much of the 5 as a freshman. They have cited that as a big reason they ended up at Purdue after initially committing to MSU.
I think you're grasping at straws here but that's ok.
You got us...they made him with alligator clips on leads from a TRS-80 laid across a sports illustrated cover featuring Charles Barkley. We had to wear bras on our heads to hit enter.
Tool.
I hate Dackich and I hate IU, but come on, he makes the connection to get people to tune in. The dude is a first rate troll. Would I love to see IU get in trouble, you betcha, but don't see it and seriously doubt the NCAA digs beyond the FBI investigation, for one, they don't have resources or authority that the FBI does.
Well, we all know..pretty easy for most. Rosie didn't buy snake oil and put his son in the best place.
