Apparently the NCAA is investigating
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Or you could just stop trolling and read the article that Texas bumped for you, but that seems to be too hard, so I'll link it here for you. He was 6'2'' 360 pounds at the time. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...nd-hoops-caleb-swanigans-rough-road-to-purdue
If reading all that is also too hard, A quote from Barnes in the article:
"If I was going to go out and get a kid for basketball reasons, I'd go find a Chris Webber or a Shaquille O'Neal—a freak," Barnes says. "The only thing freakish about Biggie was how many calories he could devour. Maybe if I wanted to develop the next hot-dog-eating champion, the next Joey Chestnut, people would have a legitimate gripe.
From what I understand, this has been going on for some time with Purdue's knowledge ... just hasn't become public until now.
It sounds like they're looking into Barnes relationship with Biggie and Purdue, but there's also the 'issue' of Biggie re-classifying. He also didn't sign a LOI, so I wonder if that delayed the process a bit since he wasn't 'official' until he enrolled in classes. Still, they should have been more proactive about the process.
The point is that being a top 25 8th grader means jack squat. Indiana kids tend to get ranked high when they're young (see Hyron Edwards, see Rapheal Davis) due to the fact that our state has an abundance of talent. But several of those kids get passed up by the time they're done with high school.
Biggie was not close to being a high D1 prospect as an 8th grader.
My point was that Swanigan even though, a fat kid with potential, was very much on the recruiting radar as an 8th grader, for god sake was 6'5 already. To completely believe he was just a kid in a bad situation saved by a good samaritan is a head in the clouds type move. Yet it was a sports agent with ties to a university that recruited a high rated basketball player who ended up at that university. That certainly catches the eye of the NCAA.
Of course he'd say that, to believe he'd incriminate himself in an article as such is ridiculous. It was a nice article to get out in front of the pending "not yet cleared" article. Good move IMO by their camp.
Your theory would have more merit if Barnes had sent kids to Purdue in the past. He didn't even send his own two kids to Purdue. But yeah he probably knew that Swanigan would be his retirement nest egg so he got him out of a terrible situation in Utah to improve his own financial well-being.
Yeah the NCAA is going to start determining whether lives are saved or not. I've seen too many kids fall in to crime, drugs and even suicide because they were not helped. So without going into the stupid, calculating "intent' you are alluding to, on Mr. Barnes' behalf, the argument is like a soap opera.
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No one's said that. No need to grossly dramatize the situation in an attempt to dismiss the evidence we have at hand.
I think your perception of what occurred when is way off. Barnes adopted this kid long before Purdue ever looked at him as a basketball player of note. Painter didn't start looking at this kid until he was a junior or senior. Oh, and by the way, Barnes signed his LOI for MSU before Biggie, himself, ripped it up.
I pretty much sum up your posts to an attempt to troll just a bit. It is tempting, but if you had read the background information, which you probably did, then you know better than to suggest collusion.
I despise NCAA as much as anyone else but I think we're jumping to conclusions here a bit. Whether Swanigan was fat or not when Barnes adopted him doesn't matter. He's a sports agent (and is somewhat affiliated with Purdue) and Swanigan is an amateur athlete. They're reviewing if the right procedures were followed, if Swanigan and Barnes did anything -- maybe before Purdue -- that could jeopardize his amateur status or even if Purdue reported Barnes' ties to the school appropriately and timely to NCAA. That one kid from IU last year got a 9 game ban for something that looked very trivial and inconsequential last year.
Since Barnes has been in this world for a long time, I am pretty certain he knew what to do and what to avoid and I don't think there will be an issue clearing Swanigan. That said, NCAA will do what they need to do and not because they suspect a "big" foul play.
Since Barnes has been in this world for a long time, I am pretty certain he knew what to do and what to avoid and I don't think there will be an issue clearing Swanigan. That said, NCAA will do what they need to do and not because they suspect a "big" foul play.
We would need to look into the time line a bit more to confirm your thoughts Da Bull. The top 25 thing 8th grader thing was after his 8th grade season. To my understanding this is also after he moved in with Barnes and during that year with Barnes he had lost 45 lbs. I doubt that he would have been as highly touted were he still 45 lbs heavier. But again, it would be more useful to actually figure out when he was ranked at some number, when he moved in Barnes etc.
I don't
I think Painter does very little recruiting of 8th graders, even from legacies - see G.Rob III. Way too young and way to little to go on to judge the talent to be BIG worthy.
I think your perception of what occurred when is way off. Barnes adopted this kid long before Purdue ever looked at him as a basketball player of note. Painter didn't start looking at this kid until he was a junior or senior. Oh, and by the way, Barnes signed his LOI for MSU before Biggie, himself, ripped it up.
I pretty much sum up your posts to an attempt to troll just a bit. It is tempting, but if you had read the background information, which you probably did, then you know better than to suggest collusion.
Not a troll attempt just laughable to blame Izzo or the NCAA over this. With the reclassify, the barnes connection, the decommitting, there's legit reasons why the NCAA is looking deeper into this. I think Swanigan will be fine and play the full season, he just got lucky enough to be adopted by a person who was willing to spend the time and money on his diet and training.
I agree 100%. I don't think the NCAA is doing this out of spite. There is enough things to drive closer scrutiny.
However, I would not put it past the MSU folks instigating this, although there is no evidence one way or the other to indicate their involvement. You must forgive me because I do like to bait the MSU trolls that petrol the sports boards looking for any disparaging remark about Izzo. I have some fun with them.
Here's a new article just published:
http://www.jconline.com/story/sport...7/answering-some-swanigan-questions/74680742/
http://www.jconline.com/story/sport...7/answering-some-swanigan-questions/74680742/
The ONLY evidence we have at hand is that you are over here from the Stye reinforcing our belief that you are all stupid asses.
yeah im butt hurt by Purdue. Purdue who hasnt done a damn thing in basketball or football in a generation.
Can anyone clarify the nature of the NCAA investigation? By that I mean, are they investigating the possibility of an actual rules violation or a documented standard that has not been met.
Do they have the power to declare a kid ineligible because they don't like the nature of the relationship between the kid and their adoptive parent/guardian even no violation occurred and all standards have been met?
Do they have the power to declare a kid ineligible because they don't like the nature of the relationship between the kid and their adoptive parent/guardian even no violation occurred and all standards have been met?
Could be either or both. The clearinghouse has been renamed the eligibility center and handles both ameteur and academic qualifications.
Yeah, but you're over here so....
Gotta be something going on about us in that little brain of yours. Did you go to Western?
Im over here because you guys are just a sideshow. A freakshow if you will and its entertaining to watch this mess you call a program,
In not sure why anyone answers this guy. He is the only poster that I have ever seen that agrees with Snu.
Pretty obvious he is a troll and is in fact Snu.
You figured it all out, eh? The average IQ of this thread dropped 50 points when you showed up. And since most of the rest of us attended Purdue, that gives you an idea about the impact you made.
According to this article that someone else posted (if true), Caleb's older brother was the one that reached out to Barnes, because Caleb needed serious help. Barnes was his brother's own former mentor, years before.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...nd-hoops-caleb-swanigans-rough-road-to-purdue
I'd imagine the NCAA just needs to verify those facts, and it should be pretty clear this is family business and was not a move by a Purdue booster to move in on a hot prospect (which he probably wasn't at 360 pounds when this happened).
It's good the NCAA looks into situations like this, since a person of lesser ethics who wasn't a family friend could use some technique like this for nefarious purposes. But they need to wrap it up yesterday for the sake of Caleb.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...nd-hoops-caleb-swanigans-rough-road-to-purdue
I'd imagine the NCAA just needs to verify those facts, and it should be pretty clear this is family business and was not a move by a Purdue booster to move in on a hot prospect (which he probably wasn't at 360 pounds when this happened).
It's good the NCAA looks into situations like this, since a person of lesser ethics who wasn't a family friend could use some technique like this for nefarious purposes. But they need to wrap it up yesterday for the sake of Caleb.
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A generation is usually 25 years. In that time, Purdue basketball has
They did wonders in their review of John Wall.
