Anyone viewing practices?

[SCBoiler1]

It will be interesting for sure. I’m full out drinking the Kool-Aid here but my hope is that half of the games this season are double digit wins and Zach can play somewhere in the range of 25 minutes in those games. I would also suspect / hope that Caleb and Trey get more run than Mason in games that are in hand early. They need the game time development more and with Mason’s history of back problems. I’d like to see Matt manage his minutes.

You’re right that the math is what it is for available minutes, I just hope to see Matt use a wider distribution of how those minutes are allocated from game to game based on matchups and situations.

It's not always easy but coaches almost need to forget about guys "feelings' when deciding whose playing. I know that sounds heartless but as nice of a guy as Painter seems to be, he seems to follow that philosophy. I don't know how many times I've heard him say in interviews that he can't play 10 guys. He says he's tried it and it doesn't work. HIS THOUGHTS NOT MINE. So if you step back and look at this team, I can see 8 guys who will get at least 10+ minutes. Edey, Gillis, Furst, TKR, Smith, Loyer, Colvin and Jones (only because he's the only option to rest Smith). That leave room for 1 guys to get meaningful minutes out of these four: Berg, Morton, Heide, and Waddell. That leaves room for one more.......

It seems harsh but it's just math.

 

[lovelyblonde]

It's not always easy but coaches almost need to forget about guys "feelings' when deciding whose playing. I know that sounds heartless but as nice of a guy as Painter seems to be, he seems to follow that philosophy. I don't know how many times I've heard him say in interviews that he can't play 10 guys. He says he's tried it and it doesn't work. HIS THOUGHTS NOT MINE. So if you step back and look at this team, I can see 8 guys who will get at least 10+ minutes. Edey, Gillis, Furst, TKR, Smith, Loyer, Colvin and Jones (only because he's the only option to rest Smith). That leave room for 1 guys to get meaningful minutes out of these four: Berg, Morton, Heide, and Waddell. That leaves room for one more.......

It seems harsh but it's just math.

Were you at scrimmage? I am not Painter, but I'd bet on Waddell playing a lot!

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Recently saw a pic of Trevion, his weight is still way down. Almost looked skinny 220-230 range.

Saw him on a flight from DCA to IND.I said “Tre?!?” And he turned around and I said “go boilers” and he gave me a fist bump. This was right before March Madness and I’m afraid I somehow jinxed the team—not sure how, but I’m convinced of it. So my bad guys…he had just came off playing a game earlier that day where he put up 18 and 6, but did look pretty fit…

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

(last name Colvin)

I hope he is up to speed and can play good minutes. I think he’s gone after next year.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Were you at scrimmage? I am not Painter, but I'd bet on Waddell playing a lot!

I agree. I think it’s Gillis who gets mins reduced…maybe not at first but it might be towards the end of the year. But all speculation. It (obviously) will come down to who is shooting the best around Zach at that point in time.

It begins in 24 days my friends….

 

[lovelyblonde]

I agree. I think it’s Gillis who gets mins reduced…maybe not at first but it might be towards the end of the year. But all speculation. It (obviously) will come down to who is shooting the best around Zach at that point in time.

It begins in 24 days my friends….

I am so ready!

 

[northside100]

Were you at scrimmage? I am not Painter, but I'd bet on Waddell playing a lot!

You may be right but the question remains, who is BW going to play over? At least in the short term the rotation at the 4/5 is locked with Zach, Caleb, Trey and Mason. If any of those guys plays more or less it's likely to be a zero sum game with the three others. I do think that the OP's statement is right in that Edey, Gillis, Furst, TKR, Smith, Loyer, Colvin and Jones are a lock to play.

Morton did an interview (I think this week) where he talked about how much more athletic the other guys at the wing are than he is (BW, Cam and Colvin) and that he's likely to spend more time spelling the guards. If that's the case, and assuming that Colvin plays mostly at wing, I'd guess that it's BW and Cam battling for minutes at the 3.

As others have said, pure speculation at this point, can't wait to get this train rolling in real games. I do hope that MP doesn't lock his rotation down too early and gives those 9th, 10th and 11th guys some PT before tightening it up around January 1.

 

[seminolesboilers]

Who is BW?

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Who is BW?

Waddell

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

You may be right but the question remains, who is BW going to play over? At least in the short term the rotation at the 4/5 is locked with Zach, Caleb, Trey and Mason. If any of those guys plays more or less it's likely to be a zero sum game with the three others. I do think that the OP's statement is right in that Edey, Gillis, Furst, TKR, Smith, Loyer, Colvin and Jones are a lock to play.

Morton did an interview (I think this week) where he talked about how much more athletic the other guys at the wing are than he is (BW, Cam and Colvin) and that he's likely to spend more time spelling the guards. If that's the case, and assuming that Colvin plays mostly at wing, I'd guess that it's BW and Cam battling for minutes at the 3.

As others have said, pure speculation at this point, can't wait to get this train rolling in real games. I do hope that MP doesn't lock his rotation down too early and gives those 9th, 10th and 11th guys some PT before tightening it up around January 1.

I don’t think Mason is going to see a lot of mins as the season goes on, unless he is shooting 35%+ from 3.

And we all could see what Morton said haha. Based on the scrimmage it’s Colvin and Loyer at the 2 and Heide and Waddell at the 3. I’m sure Morton will start to begin the year there since Painter can’t seem to quit him. But like Gillis, id assume his minutes dwindle as we get into the second half of play. All assuming Heide, Waddell and Colvin can contribute significantly. However, if Morton magically shoots 35%+ from 3, he should play—but nowhere near what he avg last year…but we have been through this discussion, haven’t we 😂

 

[northside100]

but we have been through this discussion, haven’t we 😂

Please, not again 🤣

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Please, not again 🤣

Haha tbh, I didn’t look at the username and then after I posted it, I realized it was you. 🤦‍♂️ 😂

We are almost to the first game, northside! Just a few more weeks and we can start overreacting to games! 😆

 

[SCBoiler1]

Were you at scrimmage? I am not Painter, but I'd bet on Waddell playing a lot!

Well then, maybe he's the one guy.

 

[SCBoiler1]

I don’t think Mason is going to see a lot of mins as the season goes on, unless he is shooting 35%+ from 3.

And we all could see what Morton said haha. Based on the scrimmage it’s Colvin and Loyer at the 2 and Heide and Waddell at the 3. I’m sure Morton will start to begin the year there since Painter can’t seem to quit him. But like Gillis, id assume his minutes dwindle as we get into the second half of play. All assuming Heide, Waddell and Colvin can contribute significantly. However, if Morton magically shoots 35%+ from 3, he should play—but nowhere near what he avg last year…but we have been through this discussion, haven’t we 😂

We've had the discussion but things are fluid. When you hear Painter talk about TKR taking on a bigger role, watch the European tour and hear Morton's comments, it can provide indications on how things may shake out.

Its fun to guess what's going to happen based on the latest tidbit, but at the end of the day you're right we'll find out how it's going to shakeout pretty quickly.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

We've had the discussion but things are fluid. When you hear Painter talk about TKR taking on a bigger role, watch the European tour and hear Morton's comments, it can provide indications on how things may shake out.

Its fun to guess what's going to happen based on the latest tidbit, but at the end of the day you're right we'll find out how it's going to shakeout pretty quickly.

Last year at this time, we were hearing great things about Braden Smith and I would say that he lived up to the hype. This year it seems to be TKR that everyone is talking about, so we’ll find out soon enough if he has taken as big a leap as we hope he has.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Last year at this time, we were hearing great things about Braden Smith and I would say that he lived up to the hype. This year it seems to be TKR that everyone is talking about, so we’ll find out soon enough if he has taken as big a leap as we hope he has.

I’m a big proponent of TKR and he looked so much better at the scrimmage, but again it was just a scrimmage. I still would say (at this point haha) that he needs to play a lot this year. But that could change! Let’s just get some guys hitting 3s and mid range shots around the big maple!

 

[Do Dah Day]

If Matt sees Trey as his previous 4s, then it is safe to assume that Trey can shoot the ball on the perimeter. Last year there really wasn't a 4 that could drive the ball...or at least none showed it. It would be nice that a 4 would be effective on the perimeter and driving the ball. I draw a distinction between driving the ball to get closer and possibly pulling the D than beating guys off the dribble. Not sure of any discussed 4's that beat guys off the dribble.

Now the question is does Matt really play Trey and Zach together a lot? If so, is there an expectation that the 4 is used a bit differently than previously or that Trey is showing in practice that he can now play a bit more as "previous" 4s? I certainly don't have an answer since I'm not seeing practice.

That said, there has been different players that have stated Trey is the guy that has made a huge jump. One player a while back stated Trey really shoots the ball well. It was also stated in the last couple of days by players that you can find Trey many different times of the day in the gym and so we shall all know soon a bit more about Trey. His perimeter shot is slower than desired as we know, but how do we reconcile Matt and the players comments on Trey with our vision of last year?

We don't. That water is not just over the dam, it's miles downstream

 

[Schmedly_Whiplash]

If Matt sees Trey as his previous 4s, then it is safe to assume that Trey can shoot the ball on the perimeter. Last year there really wasn't a 4 that could drive the ball...or at least none showed it. It would be nice that a 4 would be effective on the perimeter and driving the ball. I draw a distinction between driving the ball to get closer and possibly pulling the D than beating guys off the dribble. Not sure of any discussed 4's that beat guys off the dribble.

Now the question is does Matt really play Trey and Zach together a lot? If so, is there an expectation that the 4 is used a bit differently than previously or that Trey is showing in practice that he can now play a bit more as "previous" 4s? I certainly don't have an answer since I'm not seeing practice.

That said, there has been different players that have stated Trey is the guy that has made a huge jump. One player a while back stated Trey really shoots the ball well. It was also stated in the last couple of days by players that you can find Trey many different times of the day in the gym and so we shall all know soon a bit more about Trey. His perimeter shot is slower than desired as we know, but how do we reconcile Matt and the players comments on Trey with our vision of last year?

He was parked in the paint last year playing as Zach Edey 2. He's showed a nice soft shot and apparent good touch in the scrimmage and euro trip games. I have total confidence he's going to be a good midrange shooter this year. Couldn't care less if he extends to 3pt range or not. ;0) You can tell a real scorer pretty quickly and he's looked the part all fall. Confidence is high. His and mine.
I really don't care if he starts and plays with Zach or not. Hope he doesn't either. I just really like him playing with Caleb and them running and gunning as a change of pace from Zach and Mason and the pound it in the paint offense. But could be killer tough if it worked out playing WITH Zach. Fun to figure it out I reckon.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

He was parked in the paint last year playing as Zach Edey 2. He's showed a nice soft shot and apparent good touch in the scrimmage and euro trip games. I have total confidence he's going to be a good midrange shooter this year. Couldn't care less if he extends to 3pt range or not. ;0) You can tell a real scorer pretty quickly and he's looked the part all fall. Confidence is high. His and mine.
I really don't care if he starts and plays with Zach or not. Hope he doesn't either. I just really like him playing with Caleb and them running and gunning as a change of pace from Zach and Mason and the pound it in the paint offense. But could be killer tough if it worked out playing WITH Zach. Fun to figure it out I reckon.

I like all what you said except, if Trey doesn’t play with Zach that may mean he only gets 10-15 min a game and IMO (from what we have seen this offseason) that’s too low!

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Extremely simplistic way to define 'good games', IMO, for a player who is not asked to be a primary scoring option. Of the 24 games where he took fewer than 7 shots he shot less than 50% from the field fourteen times, less than 40% ten times and less than 33% seven times.

I agree that he needs to be more consistent in converting the shots he takes but are you saying that you'd like to see him more consistently looking to score?

He clearly had the yips in the NCAAs and that remains concerning to me.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

He clearly had the yips in the NCAAs and that remains concerning to me.

Everyone did not named edey 😂

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Everyone did not named edey 😂

Not like Mason IMO. He wasn’t just off…he seemed afraid to shoot.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Not like Mason IMO. He wasn’t just off…he seemed afraid to shoot.

Furst was too. Wouldn’t even look at the basket.

 

[Schmedly_Whiplash]

Your absolutely correct. When Biggie came to Purdue, Vince actually moved to the 3.

I'm still in the camp that TKR is an undersized 5 (by Purdue standards) than he is a modern day 4. He's really good at backing guys down and scoring near the basket but I haven't seen him actually try to beat guys off the dribble or shoot anything from the outside unless he's got a lot of time, and his shot is uncontested.

Don't get me wrong I think he's great. I certainly think he can be a double-digit scorer if given the minutes but in my opinion he's going to need Zach to leave before he can be the All B1G player some believe he could be.

In the scrimmage he got the ball outside the paint and finished with a close in shot. And it never involved a single beating of anyone off the dribble. If he gets the ball 18' out, he's going to be in the lane in a step. If Caleb couldn't stop that step, how many do you think will be able to stop it? And if they do he'll bury the jumper until the come back on him tight. The kid can shoot it.

 

[Schmedly_Whiplash]

Since TKR's post game is strong, would it make sense to post him sometimes and let Zach do what the 4 normally does in those situations? Could make for easy 1v1 post ups with Zach getting most of the attention still.

If it's successful can then lead to maybe an easy post up for Zach on the other post after a double comes to TKR or a maybe even an open Zach.

Yes. You could even (situationally) let Zach take a blow and move slowly upcourt while the rest of the team hurry ups into a 4 on 4 with TKR getting a clean lane to operate.

It's not always easy but coaches almost need to forget about guys "feelings' when deciding whose playing. I know that sounds heartless but as nice of a guy as Painter seems to be, he seems to follow that philosophy. I don't know how many times I've heard him say in interviews that he can't play 10 guys. He says he's tried it and it doesn't work. HIS THOUGHTS NOT MINE. So if you step back and look at this team, I can see 8 guys who will get at least 10+ minutes. Edey, Gillis, Furst, TKR, Smith, Loyer, Colvin and Jones (only because he's the only option to rest Smith). That leave room for 1 guys to get meaningful minutes out of these four: Berg, Morton, Heide, and Waddell. That leaves room for one more.......

It seems harsh but it's just math.

Pretty sure Matt's never had 10 deep this good.
Nor a team more likely to have multiple blow out games that let starters play less than normal minutes and other players opportunities to keep developing and growing into cogs in the wheel.
The closer the game, the tighter the rotation to be sure, so more blowouts = more minute for players 9, 10 and 11. I think barring injury, only Berg doesn't get a few minutes at least in most games.
Heide and Waddell are young and have potential. If one of them can become a good enough defender and hit his open shots that has a chance to make this team better come tourney time. Colvin gets 1st shot at that, but as a true frosh we don't know how his season will turn out. "I" will never ever again utter that the freshman "wall" is bs......

 

[Bleedinggoldandblack]

The discussion on the four spot is interesting. Zach's going to get 30 + minutes in meaningful games. Painter consistently says the guys that can play with Zach the best are going to play the most. If Zach plays 32 minutes like last year, that only leaves 48 minutes for three guys. The most likely scenario is that 2 guys will split 40 and the third guy will get 8-10 minutes like TKR did last year. I like all of these guys but one of them is going to be the odd man out. Unless Painter is just giving TKR lip service it won't be him at least to start the year, so either Furst or Gillis are going to be the odd man out. That's just a reality.

Gillis

 

[SCBoiler1]

Yes. You could even (situationally) let Zach take a blow and move slowly upcourt while the rest of the team hurry ups into a 4 on 4 with TKR getting a clean lane to operate.


Pretty sure Matt's never had 10 deep this good.
Nor a team more likely to have multiple blow out games that let starters play less than normal minutes and other players opportunities to keep developing and growing into cogs in the wheel.
The closer the game, the tighter the rotation to be sure, so more blowouts = more minute for players 9, 10 and 11. I think barring injury, only Berg doesn't get a few minutes at least in most games.
Heide and Waddell are young and have potential. If one of them can become a good enough defender and hit his open shots that has a chance to make this team better come tourney time. Colvin gets 1st shot at that, but as a true frosh we don't know how his season will turn out. "I" will never ever again utter that the freshman "wall" is bs......

We'll disagree on this. If you listen to Painter, he consistently says he can't play 10 guys. I'll take him at his word.

 

[northside100]

We'll disagree on this. If you listen to Painter, he consistently says he can't play 10 guys. I'll take him at his word.

The only way I can think of to do it, and to your point, Matt has never done this, is to early in the season rotate guys in and out of the rotation by game. It's difficult to manage a ten man rotation within a game but if you sit Cam and play BW one game and switch it the next it's not any harder from a game management perspective.

 

[tjreese]

The only way I can think of to do it, and to your point, Matt has never done this, is to early in the season rotate guys in and out of the rotation by game. It's difficult to manage a ten man rotation within a game but if you sit Cam and play BW one game and switch it the next it's not any harder from a game management perspective.

True, but you have to have a really good feel for your players and the other team. It would allow a view of players deterring in to the game getting more minutes

 

[nitrowars]

Wouldn't that be fun!
One of my other dreams involves Zach progressing enough to start attacking with passes when teams double him.
Not just kicking it out, but feeding guys flashing to the hoop as you describe.
As with the full court press, you gotta make teams pay for how they attack you. Don't just block the punches, counter-attack specifically against what they are doing.
SO hard to do...
Whole nother level of badass at that point.

Winner winner chicken dinner that is exactly how you beat double and triple teams

 

[Thadoc1]

I like all what you said except, if Trey doesn’t play with Zach that may mean he only gets 10-15 min a game and IMO (from what we have seen this offseason) that’s too low!

If he doesn't play well with Zach then he'll be lucky to get those minutes.....it's all about Zach this year and how well the team plays with him...next year he'll get a lot more minutes but chances are he'll have to take a backseat again this year....

 

[tjreese]

If he doesn't play well with Zach then he'll be lucky to get those minutes.....it's all about Zach this year and how well the team plays with him...next year he'll get a lot more minutes but chances are he'll have to take a backseat again this year....

Zach is an extremely important part of the Purdue team and it will be very important that the players with Zach fit well. However, nothing has been said I don't believe...but in my gut I think Matt although understanding the significant importance of Zach may also "believe" that too much reliance on Zach stunts the growth of the others which could result in less growth prior to March. That is not to say Purdue shouldn't look to Zach in all half court sets, but that winning with Zach's usage down from last year might make for a more rounded team? Again, Zach is the most dominant, significant player on the team but is it possible Zach is better and the players grow more if Zach's scoring goes down just a little and his boards and D move up? Again, none of this is to suggest less minutes or that Zach doesn't score, but we all want growth in the season to peak in March...

 

[Thadoc1]

Zach is an extremely important part of the Purdue team and it will be very important that the players with Zach fit well. However, nothing has been said I don't believe...but in my gut I think Matt although understanding the significant importance of Zach may also "believe" that too much reliance on Zach stunts the growth of the others which could result in less growth prior to March. That is not to say Purdue shouldn't look to Zach in all half court sets, but that winning with Zach's usage down from last year might make for a more rounded team? Again, Zach is the most dominant, significant player on the team but is it possible Zach is better and the players grow more if Zach's scoring goes down just a little and his boards and D move up? Again, none of this is to suggest less minutes or that Zach doesn't score, but we all want growth in the season to peak in March...

If tkr doesn't play well with Zach, then he won't play much....edey is a superstar so our team will be as good as the players that complement him best....

 

[tjreese]

If tkr doesn't play well with Zach, then he won't play much....edey is a superstar so our team will be as good as the players that complement him best....

That doesn't conflict with what I said, and what I said was just a hunch. I can't help but wonder if too much focus on Zach early (we know what he can do) on offense could hinder the growth of others through the season. Ideally, you want your team to win, but to struggle in that win. You want players to make mistakes (once of each kind ), but not costly enough to cause a defeat, so they learn and grow. The last thing Purdue needs to do is peak in November by being so efficient that things stagnate, Close wins are healthy, but win. Keep the teams focus, knowing there is improvement to be made and keep them on the edge. Then in March, see if all the players have more confidence in themselves knowing that "if" a team dedicates an army to stopping Zach, they have confidence and experience in scoring without force feeding him.

Zach is a superstar...no question. However, there is enough talent on this team that they do NOT have to rely on Zach for 40 minutes trying to hit an open shot or passing the ball to Zach. I'm one that typically holds the reins too tight at times, but this team has players that need to grow during the season. Nowhere would I suggest to not use Zach because he is a superstar but "offensively" he doesn't need growth and other players do...but you have to win. Zach could use more growth on D and passing out of doubles.

 

[northside100]

That doesn't conflict with what I said, and what I said was just a hunch. I can't help but wonder if too much focus on Zach early (we know what he can do) on offense could hinder the growth of others through the season. Ideally, you want your team to win, but to struggle in that win. You want players to make mistakes (once of each kind ), but not costly enough to cause a defeat, so they learn and grow. The last thing Purdue needs to do is peak in November by being so efficient that things stagnate, Close wins are healthy, but win. Keep the teams focus, knowing there is improvement to be made and keep them on the edge. Then in March, see if all the players have more confidence in themselves knowing that "if" a team dedicates an army to stopping Zach, they have confidence and experience in scoring without force feeding him.

Zach is a superstar...no question. However, there is enough talent on this team that they do NOT have to rely on Zach for 40 minutes trying to hit an open shot or passing the ball to Zach. I'm one that typically holds the reins too tight at times, but this team has players that need to grow during the season. Nowhere would I suggest to not use Zach because he is a superstar but "offensively" he doesn't need growth and other players do...but you have to win. Zach could use more growth on D and passing out of doubles.

What’s an example of what you’re suggesting? MP has said he wants Braden to be more aggressive offensively, and theoretically, that could mean fewer touches for Zach. Quite a few people have suggested that more athletic wings this year may equate to more fast break opportunities, which would also equate to fewer touches for Zach unless he picks up rebounds as a trailer.


Are you thinking post ups for Trey ‘s with Zach on the opposite block or elbow ready to hit the boards?

 

[Thadoc1]

That doesn't conflict with what I said, and what I said was just a hunch. I can't help but wonder if too much focus on Zach early (we know what he can do) on offense could hinder the growth of others through the season. Ideally, you want your team to win, but to struggle in that win. You want players to make mistakes (once of each kind ), but not costly enough to cause a defeat, so they learn and grow. The last thing Purdue needs to do is peak in November by being so efficient that things stagnate, Close wins are healthy, but win. Keep the teams focus, knowing there is improvement to be made and keep them on the edge. Then in March, see if all the players have more confidence in themselves knowing that "if" a team dedicates an army to stopping Zach, they have confidence and experience in scoring without force feeding him.

Zach is a superstar...no question. However, there is enough talent on this team that they do NOT have to rely on Zach for 40 minutes trying to hit an open shot or passing the ball to Zach. I'm one that typically holds the reins too tight at times, but this team has players that need to grow during the season. Nowhere would I suggest to not use Zach because he is a superstar but "offensively" he doesn't need growth and other players do...but you have to win. Zach could use more growth on D and passing out of doubles.

Our schedule is tough enough that we don't need to mess around just to get other players some confidence...we need to win as much as we can, get a 1 seed, play in indy and Detroit, and play weaker teams on the way to the final four....by playing the demanding schedule that we have we'll see all the ways different teams will play us....we just need to win as much as possible this year no matter what....when we play weaker teams we should have the depth to play our deep bench but against stronger teams we'll play Zach and the best players thar complement him as much as possible....

 

[BoilerDeac]

Your absolutely correct. When Biggie came to Purdue, Vince actually moved to the 3.

I'm still in the camp that TKR is an undersized 5 (by Purdue standards) than he is a modern day 4. He's really good at backing guys down and scoring near the basket but I haven't seen him actually try to beat guys off the dribble or shoot anything from the outside unless he's got a lot of time, and his shot is uncontested.

Don't get me wrong I think he's great. I certainly think he can be a double-digit scorer if given the minutes but in my opinion he's going to need Zach to leave before he can be the All B1G player some believe he could be.

Yep. This is why I think Purdue has a chance to be better next season with Trey at the 5, Furst at the 4, and more experienced/better guard play.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

If he doesn't play well with Zach then he'll be lucky to get those minutes.....it's all about Zach this year and how well the team plays with him...next year he'll get a lot more minutes but chances are he'll have to take a backseat again this year....

if he doesn’t see minutes I hope he doesn’t leave after this year

 

[Heads up BOILER]

if he doesn’t see minutes I hope he doesn’t leave after this year

With the work he’s put in and Painters making his improvement, commitment and work ethic the focus of what he’s putting out there in the public sphere it’s gonna be hard not to play him unless he implodes. Painter normally doesn’t make statements that aren’t in keeping with his assessment. If TKR is the one left out I think he will at least likely consider going elsewhere.

 

[Thadoc1]

if he doesn’t see minutes I hope he doesn’t leave after this year

Why would he leave if he'll be a featured player next year?...are you going to play 12 guys this year because you're afraid they might leave?....the time to win is now, not next year....