Antisemitic Hate March held at Purdue University

[Joetboiler]

So it’s all about how long the respective protests lasted or how many there were? Those are the important takeaways lol?

Or it’s the dollar amount of the damage that’s most important? Or the number of lives lost?

It’s NOT that for the first time in our history there was a serious attempt to over turn the results of an election…..in the greatest democracy in the world? It’s NOT that the lives of every American would have been changed by the sitting president staying in office? It’s NOT that Russia, China, NK, Iran and others get to push their propaganda that the US is broken and democracy doesn’t work? It’s NOT the MOST dangerous threat to democracy when the people don’t believe in the most fundamental aspect of our system, the elections?

What’s the lasting effect of the BLM protests? Were you affected? What would be the lasting effect of a sitting president successfully overturning an election and staying in office? Huh? Can you answer that question honestly?

Yes. I was personally affected by the BLM riots as were many of my friends. I left Chicago because of them and what came after. I saw your Antifa buddies in my street. While you cheered on from whatever white enclave in some suburbs someplace I asked people like you who cheered on if you were going to go bring in baby formula diapers and prescriptions to the low income black and brown people who saw their Walgreens looted. That Walgreens never came back. BLM is a Marxist group who literally published their intentions. I bet you gave them money. And they used it to buy themselves real estate. Name one city that experienced a BLM riot?

And you keep your dumbass straw man that the election was almost overturned. Can you breakdown just exactly how that was going to happen. You have to be the biggest fool amongst fools to think that our system would collapse because what? They didn’t certify an election that day? That every branch of government, the military, every State Governor, every federal employee was gonna say, well a couple hundred people stopped the certification so I guess Trump is President. Has your childish brain ever walked through exactly how this was going to happen? How a couple hundred people without guns was going to install themselves as the new government over 350 million people?

You’re so worried about our democracy. You ever get worried that a duly elected President was almost impeached based upon a fake dossier and phony “intelligence.” We came a lot closer to having a President removed based on lies and collusion with government officials and elected representatives in 2016 than 2020. Those people knew the dossier was a lie just like Trump knew he lost. But you don’t care about the former.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

The Dems, lefties and libs justified and supported BLM Burn Loot Murder.
Even today, after it’s been revealed that the organization is a money sham, all these suckers who gave them money (Bob) still turn a blind eye while blm leadership laughs all the way to the bank.

Hey come on man- Bob also gave money to the Pedo Project, he likes to spread around the doghouse wealth.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Yes. I was personally affected by the BLM riots as were many of my friends. I left Chicago because of them and what came after. I saw your Antifa buddies in my street. While you cheered on from whatever white enclave in some suburbs someplace I asked people like you who cheered on if you were going to go bring in baby formula diapers and prescriptions to the low income black and brown people who saw their Walgreens looted. That Walgreens never came back. BLM is a Marxist group who literally published their intentions. I bet you gave them money. And they used it to buy themselves real estate. Name one city that experienced a BLM riot?

Hard to believe that people don't at least understand the increase insurance costs because of BLM riots and BLM looting. It has directly affected everyone who pays insurance. And those insurance calculations will be ongoing for everyone's wallet.

$86.6 Billion to theft in 2022 alone. Not saying this is all BLM. But no doubt some is.

Some people on here also claimed the illegals were not costing Americans anything financially. They were wrong then, by alot. They are wrong now on BLM. But nothing new there.

 

[RDUBoiler]

Just sickening? I hope none of these fine students qualify for student loan forgiveness. Wish people would put a stop to this type of insanity.

Do you mean free speech?

 

[tjreese]

Yes. I was personally affected by the BLM riots as were many of my friends. I left Chicago because of them and what came after. I saw your Antifa buddies in my street. While you cheered on from whatever white enclave in some suburbs someplace I asked people like you who cheered on if you were going to go bring in baby formula diapers and prescriptions to the low income black and brown people who saw their Walgreens looted. That Walgreens never came back. BLM is a Marxist group who literally published their intentions. I bet you gave them money. And they used it to buy themselves real estate. Name one city that experienced a BLM riot?

And you keep your dumbass straw man that the election was almost overturned. Can you breakdown just exactly how that was going to happen. You have to be the biggest fool amongst fools to think that our system would collapse because what? They didn’t certify an election that day? That every branch of government, the military, every State Governor, every federal employee was gonna say, well a couple hundred people stopped the certification so I guess Trump is President. Has your childish brain ever walked through exactly how this was going to happen? How a couple hundred people without guns was going to install themselves as the new government over 350 million people?

You’re so worried about our democracy. You ever get worried that a duly elected President was almost impeached based upon a fake dossier and phony “intelligence.” We came a lot closer to having a President removed based on lies and collusion with government officials and elected representatives in 2016 than 2020. Those people knew the dossier was a lie just like Trump knew he lost. But you don’t care about the former.

"They didn’t certify an election that day?" Big problem huh? "How a couple hundred people without guns was going to install themselves as the new government over 350 million people. " Scary! Somehow the delayed certification gets mixed up with overturn the election by some and the first takeover of a country without weapons has got a share of the population buying it as well. The future looks bleak

 

[SKYDOG]

Do you mean free speech?

Free money

 

[BuilderBob6]

BLM protests have changed the way we shop, increased prices, caused lawlessness on crime in the major cities. It’s caused a war on our law enforcement officers. That is the lasting effect.

The MAGA protesters on J6 only occupied the capital for about five hours. They had no weapons aside from bear spray and flag poles. They went home peacefully. They did not protest or take over any other state capital after that either.

The side you voted for has changed democracy. We no longer enforce the laws on the books on the border. We allow crime in the major cities to exist. This will change the country going forward forever.

Wtf are you talking about? Increased prices? As opposed to Covid or inflation?
You guys rant about crime in the cities all the time. It was there before the protests and is present after the protests.
How has it caused a war on police officers? Again, there before and after.
You have some kind of statistics to back up ANY of these conclusions? This stuff isn’t true just because you want it to be.

The violent protests that cause the most damage lasted all of a few weeks, with smaller protests lasting a couple months. And yet they changed the way we shop? Caused the crime in the cities that all of you were bitching about BEFORE the protests? You telling me that cops weren’t hated by some minorities before the protests? You’re just making shit up to further your narrative.

What would be the lasting effect of a sitting president successfully overturning an election and staying in office? Huh? Can you answer that question honestly?

 

[SKYDOG]

Wtf are you talking about? Increased prices? As opposed to Covid or inflation?
You guys rant about crime in the cities all the time. It was there before the protests and is present after the protests.
How has it caused a war on police officers? Again, there before and after.
You have some kind of statistics to back up ANY of these conclusions? This stuff isn’t true just because you want it to be.

The violent protests that cause the most damage lasted all of a few weeks, with smaller protests lasting a couple months. And yet they changed the way we shop? Caused the crime in the cities that all of you were bitching about BEFORE the protests? You telling me that cops weren’t hated by some minorities before the protests? You’re just making shit up to further your narrative.

What would be the lasting effect of a sitting president successfully overturning an election and staying in office? Huh? Can you answer that question honestly?

Crime has changed the way we shop as many people are afraid to go to the mall. People are scared of car jacking crime. They stay home and order on their computer. Prices have gone up do to inventory shrinkage (stealing). Prices have gone up due to a huge increase in wages. Crime was no where as bad as it is now under Biden. Democrats support criminals and vilify the victims. You should be concerned about that instead of Trump bla bla bla.

And get off your high horse about overturning an election. It didn’t happen, wasn’t close to happening, never would have happened.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

Wtf are you talking about? Increased prices? As opposed to Covid or inflation?
You guys rant about crime in the cities all the time. It was there before the protests and is present after the protests.
How has it caused a war on police officers? Again, there before and after.
You have some kind of statistics to back up ANY of these conclusions? This stuff isn’t true just because you want it to be.

The violent protests that cause the most damage lasted all of a few weeks, with smaller protests lasting a couple months. And yet they changed the way we shop? Caused the crime in the cities that all of you were bitching about BEFORE the protests? You telling me that cops weren’t hated by some minorities before the protests? You’re just making shit up to further your narrative.

What would be the lasting effect of a sitting president successfully overturning an election and staying in office? Huh? Can you answer that question honestly?

Target announced Tuesday that it is shuttering nine stores on Oct. 21 because "theft and organized retail crime are threatening the safety of our team and guests." Why it matters: Retail crime accounted for $112.1 billion in losses in 2022, a National Retail Federation report released Tuesday found.

At Target, theft incidents involving violence or threats of violence were up 120% year-over-year in the first five months of 2023, the company's management team said in August.

Target said in May that theft was cutting into its bottom line, and it expected related losses could be $500 million US more than last year, when losses from theft were estimated to be anywhere from $700 million to $800 million. So that means losses could top $1.2 billion this fiscal year.

 

[BNIBoiler]

Crime has changed the way we shop as many people are afraid to go to the mall. People are scared of car jacking crime. They stay home and order on their computer. Prices have gone up do to inventory shrinkage (stealing). Prices have gone up due to a huge increase in wages. Crime was no where as bad as it is now under Biden. Democrats support criminals and vilify the victims. You should be concerned about that instead of Trump bla bla bla.

And get off your high horse about overturning an election. It didn’t happen, wasn’t close to happening, never would have happened.

With all of that crime in the red state of Alaska, is that the fault of Biden and the democrats? Alaska has one of the highest crime rates in the US.

 

[SKYDOG]

With all of that crime in the red state of Alaska, is that the fault of Biden and the democrats? Alaska has one of the highest crime rates in the US.

So do you really think that response makes any sense?

 

[BNIBoiler]

So do you really think that response makes any sense?

Yeah it makes sense. You are conveniently leaving out crime in red states. Alaska in particular with one of the highest crime rates.

 

[Boilermaker03]

Yeah it makes sense. You are conveniently leaving out crime in red states. Alaska in particular with one of the highest crime rates.

The majority of crime happens in cities. The majority of cities are Dem run. Sure, there are some run by Repubilcans, but most by Dems. Some red states tend to have a more sparse population outside the cities, thus less numbers to water down the crime rates.

There. I just gave you a very reasonable explanation why some red states have higher crime rates. Alaska is a prime example of sparse population outside of the cities. Many southern red states would be similar.

 

[SKYDOG]

Yeah it makes sense. You are conveniently leaving out crime in red states. Alaska in particular with one of the highest crime rates.

Maybe this will make sense to you. I would not be afraid to be harmed or robbed in Juneau, but most definitely would in Chicago or DC at night.

 

[BuilderBob6]

Your level of critical thinking is very in-Purdue like.
You’re trying to equate 5 hours of Jan 6 with 12 months of BLM burning, looting and murder. No wonder Democrats are so clueless.

It wasn’t 12 months. It was a few weeks. Not even close. If your position is so strong why do have to lie?
Murder? You mean BLM protesters were just murdering people as they protested? Most of the people killed were protestors and looters. The details and circumstances of the deaths don’t come close to BLM murder.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/26/almost-none-deaths-linked-recent-protests-are-known-have-been-committed-by-protesters/

So you’re all about the duration too? You’re actually questioning my critical thinking? How long does it take for a bomb to explode or an assassin to kill his target? The result or the intended result is what’s important…….along with the consequences.

 

[Boilermaker03]

It wasn’t 12 months. It was a few weeks. Not even close. If your position is so strong why do have to lie?
Murder? You mean BLM protesters were just murdering people as they protested? Most of the people killed were protestors and looters. The details and circumstances of the deaths don’t come close to BLM murder.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/26/almost-none-deaths-linked-recent-protests-are-known-have-been-committed-by-protesters/

So you’re all about the duration too? You’re actually questioning my critical thinking? How long does it take for a bomb to explode or an assassin to kill his target? The result or the intended result is what’s important…….along with the consequences.

You mean like the cops that were shot and killed and the former officer that was trying to protect a friends property that was killed? Or the Trump supporter that was beaten half to death? etc.

 

[BuilderBob6]

You mean like the cops that were shot and killed and the former officer that was trying to protect a friends property that was killed? Or the Trump supporter that was beaten half to death? etc.

Etc? Give me some links.

I’m not saying there were no murders. I’m saying it wasn’t 12 months of BLM protesters MURDERING people as the post said.

 

[Boilermaker03]

Etc? Give me some links.

I’m not saying there were no murders. I’m saying it wasn’t 12 months of BLM protesters MURDERING people as the post said.

I don't know about 12 months. If I remember it was about 5 or so. There were a lot of murders though.

At least 25 Americans were killed during protests and political unrest in 2020

Findings from Armed Conflict Location and Event Data raise concerns about continued violence during and after election day

www.theguardian.com

14 Days Of Protests, 19 Dead

Forbes counts at least 19 dead in two weeks of protests over George Floyd’s death.

www.forbes.com

For Five Months, BLM Protestors Trashed America’s Cities. After the Election, Things May Only Get Worse

This week marks the first time in living memory that widespread violence was widely viewed as a foreseeable, and even expected, outcome of an American national election.

www.heritage.org

 

[BuilderBob6]

I don't know about 12 months. If I remember it was about 5 or so. There were a lot of murders though.

At least 25 Americans were killed during protests and political unrest in 2020

Findings from Armed Conflict Location and Event Data raise concerns about continued violence during and after election day

www.theguardian.com

14 Days Of Protests, 19 Dead

Forbes counts at least 19 dead in two weeks of protests over George Floyd’s death.

www.forbes.com

For Five Months, BLM Protestors Trashed America’s Cities. After the Election, Things May Only Get Worse

This week marks the first time in living memory that widespread violence was widely viewed as a foreseeable, and even expected, outcome of an American national election.

www.heritage.org

I’m looking for links to your specific stories. I posted a link to the numbers of deaths and the specific circumstances of each.

Regardless, this quote from one of your links.

ACLED found that the overwhelming majority of the more than 9.000Black Lives Matter demonstrationsthat took place across the US after the killing of George Floyd have been peaceful. News reports at the height of demonstrations over Floyd’s killing cited dozens of deaths in connection with protests, but many of those turned out to be examples of deadly crimes carried out in the vicinity of protests, rather than directly related to the demonstrations themselves, the researchers concluded.


Far from the repeated and false statements of BLM protestors murdering citizens for months.

What they did was wrong. But lying about the duration and the deaths to make it sound worse is what MAGA does.

 

[BNIBoiler]

I’m looking for links to your specific stories. I posted a link to the numbers of deaths and the specific circumstances of each.

Regardless, this quote from one of your links.

ACLED found that the overwhelming majority of the more than 9.000Black Lives Matter demonstrationsthat took place across the US after the killing of George Floyd have been peaceful. News reports at the height of demonstrations over Floyd’s killing cited dozens of deaths in connection with protests, but many of those turned out to be examples of deadly crimes carried out in the vicinity of protests, rather than directly related to the demonstrations themselves, the researchers concluded.


Far from the repeated and false statements of BLM protestors murdering citizens for months.

What they did was wrong. But lying about the duration and the deaths to make it sound worse is what MAGA does.

The GOP/MAGA playbook is to maximize the minimum or minimize the maximum.

 

[Boiler Buck]

I don't know about 12 months. If I remember it was about 5 or so. There were a lot of murders though.

At least 25 Americans were killed during protests and political unrest in 2020

Findings from Armed Conflict Location and Event Data raise concerns about continued violence during and after election day

www.theguardian.com

14 Days Of Protests, 19 Dead

Forbes counts at least 19 dead in two weeks of protests over George Floyd’s death.

www.forbes.com

For Five Months, BLM Protestors Trashed America’s Cities. After the Election, Things May Only Get Worse

This week marks the first time in living memory that widespread violence was widely viewed as a foreseeable, and even expected, outcome of an American national election.

www.heritage.org

BLM is a despicable organization as is anyone that supports it. They are anti family, anti America, anti law and order and very dangerous group that has caused Billion$ in damages to American cities.

 

[BuilderBob6]

Crime has changed the way we shop as many people are afraid to go to the mall. People are scared of car jacking crime. They stay home and order on their computer. Prices have gone up do to inventory shrinkage (stealing). Prices have gone up due to a huge increase in wages. Crime was no where as bad as it is now under Biden. Democrats support criminals and vilify the victims. You should be concerned about that instead of Trump bla bla bla.

And get off your high horse about overturning an election. It didn’t happen, wasn’t close to happening, never would have happened.

Lol. But your argument is that the BLM protests caused all the issues you just noted. That’s complete BS. All because you want to make the protests worse than Jan 6.

I don’t know what world you live in…….but mall shopping has been declining for decades. Lol. You’re saying people are buying online because they are afraid to go to the stores? NOT because they can do it from the couch and have it delivered for free……or people have access to more products than they do in stores or they can find deals easier or they can compare prices or they can see feedback on products……..or a million other reasons. Jfc man. Are you stupid or so desperate to prove your point you ignore all common sense?

It didn’t happen. The odds were against it happening. But it absolutely could have happened. If the vote was delayed for even a few days there was a good chance the republicans would have found a judge that would have agreed to hear the case. If the DOJ attorneys hadn’t threatened to resign trump would have installed Jeffery Clark as AG and he was all in on trumps rigged election scheme. He would have opened all sorts of new investigations. There were two executive orders drafted that would have seized voting machines. New electors had been chosen by republicans in the swing states. Of course it could have happened.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Yeah it makes sense. You are conveniently leaving out crime in red states. Alaska in particular with one of the highest crime rates.

Still using that Red state lie based on faulty studies. You are nothing but consistent anyway.

Crime and murder needs to be studied on a local county by county basis - NOT studied on a state basis -- as this recent study on murder shows-- it's a BLUE thing..........

Report shows blue counties have higher murder rate than red, calls out 'flawed' studies promoted by top Dems

Report shows blue counties have higher murder rate than red, calls out 'flawed' studies promoted by top Dems

Heritage Foundation concludes in a new study that blue counties have much higher murder rates than red counties, which runs counter to the narrative pushed by many Democrats.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Boilermaker03]

I’m looking for links to your specific stories. I posted a link to the numbers of deaths and the specific circumstances of each.

Regardless, this quote from one of your links.

ACLED found that the overwhelming majority of the more than 9.000Black Lives Matter demonstrationsthat took place across the US after the killing of George Floyd have been peaceful. News reports at the height of demonstrations over Floyd’s killing cited dozens of deaths in connection with protests, but many of those turned out to be examples of deadly crimes carried out in the vicinity of protests, rather than directly related to the demonstrations themselves, the researchers concluded.


Far from the repeated and false statements of BLM protestors murdering citizens for months.

What they did was wrong. But lying about the duration and the deaths to make it sound worse is what MAGA does.

So 19 deaths in 14 days isn't bad? Got it.

 

[Boilermaker03]

Lol. But your argument is that the BLM protests caused all the issues you just noted. That’s complete BS. All because you want to make the protests worse than Jan 6.

I don’t know what world you live in…….but mall shopping has been declining for decades. Lol. You’re saying people are buying online because they are afraid to go to the stores? NOT because they can do it from the couch and have it delivered for free……or people have access to more products than they do in stores or they can find deals easier or they can compare prices or they can see feedback on products……..or a million other reasons. Jfc man. Are you stupid or so desperate to prove your point you ignore all common sense?

It didn’t happen. The odds were against it happening. But it absolutely could have happened. If the vote was delayed for even a few days there was a good chance the republicans would have found a judge that would have agreed to hear the case. If the DOJ attorneys hadn’t threatened to resign trump would have installed Jeffery Clark as AG and he was all in on trumps rigged election scheme. He would have opened all sorts of new investigations. There were two executive orders drafted that would have seized voting machines. New electors had been chosen by republicans in the swing states. Of course it could have happened.

All of those protests WERE worse than J6. Billions in damages, dozens of innocent people murdered, looting that began during BLM that hasn't stopped yet today (which is why everything in many stores are completely locked up, as well as forcing many stores in certain area's to shut down and abandon that area completely. Most of the time in places where people need those supplies).

J6 was not an insurrection. Almost nobody had a gun. Almost no violence inside the building. People left of their own volition after walking around for a few hours. The more we learn, the more we find out it was a setup. A Fed surrection and a media hoax. The dude that was filmed putting his feet on the desk, was asked to do so by the reporter following him. The only people that died were Trump supporters (unlike the lies the media and Democrats said for years!). I don't understand how you can see the discrepancies on EVERYTHING this media and Democrats tell you and not be at a minimum skeptical.

This IS the most propagandized citizenry on the planet and it's mostly due to Democrats and the media. I mean FFS, the most recent thread I created was nothing but Jen Psaki lying about what Trump said and what he's going to do if he was re-elected. All you have to do is watch the full clip of Trump's interview and it's CLEAR he was saying the opposite of what she claimed. YOU'RE BEING LIED TO!!! Wake the **** up!

 

[Boilermaker03]

Still using that Red state lie based on faulty studies. You are nothing but consistent anyway.

Crime and murder needs to be studied on a local county by county basis - NOT studied on a state basis -- as this recent study on murder shows-- it's a BLUE thing..........

Report shows blue counties have higher murder rate than red, calls out 'flawed' studies promoted by top Dems

Report shows blue counties have higher murder rate than red, calls out 'flawed' studies promoted by top Dems

Heritage Foundation concludes in a new study that blue counties have much higher murder rates than red counties, which runs counter to the narrative pushed by many Democrats.

www.foxnews.com

@BNIBoiler Democrats lying and skewing the truth? Never!

 

[BuilderBob6]

BLM is a despicable organization as is anyone that supports it. They are anti family, anti America, anti law and order and very dangerous group that has caused million$ in damages to American cities.

So of course that makes it ok to blame their protests for all of sorts of society’s ills and argue the protests were more influential than an attempt to overturn a presidential election.

 

[Droid12345]

Still using that Red state lie based on faulty studies. You are nothing but consistent anyway.

Crime and murder needs to be studied on a local county by county basis - NOT studied on a state basis -- as this recent study on murder shows-- it's a BLUE thing..........

Report shows blue counties have higher murder rate than red, calls out 'flawed' studies promoted by top Dems

Report shows blue counties have higher murder rate than red, calls out 'flawed' studies promoted by top Dems

Heritage Foundation concludes in a new study that blue counties have much higher murder rates than red counties, which runs counter to the narrative pushed by many Democrats.

www.foxnews.com

Both approaches are flawed for the same two reasons:

1. Neither actually compares like for like. There are FAR too many variables (either between blue and red counties within a state, or from state to state -- such as population density, education levels, poverty levels, etc. -- that we know affect crime rates independent of political leaning) to just compare "red" and "blue." Even a statement like "x number of the 25 cities with the highest crime rates have democratic mayors" is flawed because one could make a similar statement such as "x number of the 25 cities with the lowest crime rates have democratic mayors," and probably come up with a similar statistic because, like, almost ALL large cities have democratic mayors, so democratic mayors will necessarily preside over the worst cities for crime and also the best cities for crime. It would also be true that some high percentage of the rural counties with the highest crime rates would be run by republicans AND ALSO that some high percentage of the rural counties with lowest crime rates would be run by republicans, because republicans run almost all of the rural counties. Maybe comparing red counties in red states to red counties in blue states and vice versa would be better, as it could mitigate some of these confounding variables. But, even then...

2. Both approaches are correlational, and don't establish causation. Far more sophisticated analysis would need to be done than "counties (or states) with this political leaning have more crime, therefore this political leaning leads to crime."

 

[Boiler Buck]

Both approaches are flawed for the same two reasons:

1. Neither actually compares like for like. There are FAR too many variables (either between blue and red counties within a state, or from state to state -- such as population density, education levels, poverty levels, etc. -- that we know affect crime rates) to just compare "red" and "blue." Even a statement like "x number of the 25 cities with the highest crime rates have democratic mayors" is flawed because one could make a similar statement such as "x number of the 25 cities with the lowest crime rates have democratic mayors," and probably come up with a similar statistic because, like, almost ALL cities have democratic mayors, so democratic mayors will necessarily preside over the worst cities for crime and also the best cities for crime. Maybe comparing red counties in red states to red counties in blue states and vice versa would be better, as it could mitigate some of these confounding variables. But, even then...

2. Both approaches are correlational, and don't establish causation. Far more sophisticated research would need to be done than "counties (or states) with this political leaning have more crime, therefore this political leaning leads to crime."

Regardless, crime happens and is prosecuted locally. Studies will be more accurate there than on a flawed state basis. Way too many variables when you get beyond the local. The article points out this fallacy and it is valuable from that standpoint.

 

[Droid12345]

Regardless, crime happens and is prosecuted locally. Studies will be more accurate there than on a flawed state basis. Way too many variables when you get beyond the local. The article points out this fallacy and it is valuable from that standpoint.

Yes, but it's choosing its analytical method to prove its desired political point (as it's coming from the Heritage Foundation, an explicitly conservative political organization) rather than simply following the data to a conclusion. A state-by-state analysis does the same thing from the other side. Both studies are choosing a statistic that supports their desired narrative, and lay-folk or media organizations who present them are simply picking the one they like better and saying "this study says I'm right!" The entire argument is dumb absent more sophisticated analysis from actual experts who understand how to do it, which, on this topic, at least, likely includes neither of us, nor anyone else on the board.

 

[BuilderBob6]

So 19 deaths in 14 days isn't bad? Got it.

Who said that? That’s your reply? You just punted.
Read your own damn links. 9 of the deaths were protestors, probably makes you happy. Many of the others simply happened in the vicinity of the protests or involved people who had been at the protests. This was not BLM protesters murdering innocent civilians in the streets as you and others here would have us believe. YOU’RE being lied to and repeating the lies.

 

[Boilermaker03]

Who said that? That’s your reply? You just punted.
Read your own damn links. 9 of the deaths were protestors, probably makes you happy. Many of the others simply happened in the vicinity of the protests or involved people who had been at the protests. This was not BLM protesters murdering innocent civilians in the streets as you and others here would have us believe. YOU’RE being lied to and repeating the lies.

Why would you say that I'm probably happy? Where did I differentiate who died? Death is death. I don't want anyone dying, but the reality is that a lot of people died. Same with the "summer of love" police free zones. People killed, raped, robbed like crazy.

 

[SKYDOG]

Lol. But your argument is that the BLM protests caused all the issues you just noted. That’s complete BS. All because you want to make the protests worse than Jan 6.

I don’t know what world you live in…….but mall shopping has been declining for decades. Lol. You’re saying people are buying online because they are afraid to go to the stores? NOT because they can do it from the couch and have it delivered for free……or people have access to more products than they do in stores or they can find deals easier or they can compare prices or they can see feedback on products……..or a million other reasons. Jfc man. Are you stupid or so desperate to prove your point you ignore all common sense?

It didn’t happen. The odds were against it happening. But it absolutely could have happened. If the vote was delayed for even a few days there was a good chance the republicans would have found a judge that would have agreed to hear the case. If the DOJ attorneys hadn’t threatened to resign trump would have installed Jeffery Clark as AG and he was all in on trumps rigged election scheme. He would have opened all sorts of new investigations. There were two executive orders drafted that would have seized voting machines. New electors had been chosen by republicans in the swing states. Of course it could have happened.

Just about hopeless for you.

 

[BNIBoiler]

BLM is a despicable organization as is anyone that supports it. They are anti family, anti America, anti law and order and very dangerous group that has caused Billion$ in damages to American cities.

Myself and most blacks in America could care less about the BLM, the organization. Most black people, including myself don't know much about the organization at all. Y'all seem to know more about the BLM organization than most black folks. Most of the folks causing the damage doing those riots were not members of this so called BLM organization. The black folks looting, destroying, and setting fires to the businesses are members of the BLM organization. The white Antifah causing a lot of the havoc during these riots,m burning and destroying property, ain't members of the BLM organization. Basically, I don't know why y'all keep calling the riots, the BLM riots. Perhaps call them the George Floyd riots.

Now as far as the Jan 6 folks. 99% of them are bonafide MAGA cult members trying to stop democracy of certifying the 2020 election.

 

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All of those protests WERE worse than J6. Billions in damages, dozens of innocent people murdered, looting that began during BLM that hasn't stopped yet today (which is why everything in many stores are completely locked up, as well as forcing many stores in certain area's to shut down and abandon that area completely. Most of the time in places where people need those supplies).

J6 was not an insurrection. Almost nobody had a gun. Almost no violence inside the building. People left of their own volition after walking around for a few hours. The more we learn, the more we find out it was a setup. A Fed surrection and a media hoax. The dude that was filmed putting his feet on the desk, was asked to do so by the reporter following him. The only people that died were Trump supporters (unlike the lies the media and Democrats said for years!). I don't understand how you can see the discrepancies on EVERYTHING this media and Democrats tell you and not be at a minimum skeptical.

This IS the most propagandized citizenry on the planet and it's mostly due to Democrats and the media. I mean FFS, the most recent thread I created was nothing but Jen Psaki lying about what Trump said and what he's going to do if he was re-elected. All you have to do is watch the full clip of Trump's interview and it's CLEAR he was saying the opposite of what she claimed. YOU'RE BEING LIED TO!!! Wake the **** up!

You right wingers are so infatuated with guns that y'all keep saying that it wasn't an insurrection because there were no guns involved. Below is the Merrium-Webster definition of an insurrection. Says nothing about guns.

insurrection​

noun​

in·sur·rec·tion ˌin(t)-sə-ˈrek-shən
Synonyms of insurrection
: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

What do you mean almost no violence inside the building? Every time that you post something you reveal that you are a young whippersnapper. Anyhow, it was violence that got that cult member chick shot by the police. They were breaking through a glass door. They were chasing cops up stairwells. A cop got mashed inside a revolving door. For the sake of argument that there was almost no violence inside the building. Does that matter? Again, this is exactly what I'm talking about minimizing the maximum, maximizing the minimum. There was extreme violence on the outside that you have just completely ignored. The extreme violence on the outside is how they got inside in the first place, particularly after most the deplorables came over from the Chump WH rally. It was like a scene from a typical zombie movie like "Resident Evil" or something. Not necessarily guns, but there were plenty of weapons being used, some stolen from the police and used against them. It was hand to hand combat outside the Capitol.

Then y'all keep saying that the deplorables left on their own. BS. They left after the police finally took control of the situation.

 

[BuilderBob6]

Just about hopeless for you.

Your reply is the definition of hopeless. You have no answer for you ridiculous accusations and conclusions so you come back with 5 words and a gif.

 

[SKYDOG]

Your reply is the definition of hopeless. You have no answer for you ridiculous accusations and conclusions so you come back with 5 words and a gif.

Just very hard to understand the opinions you have. For an intelligent person to post what you do is mind boggling to me many times. We see the same things and see them in totally opposite ways. To each their own.

 

[BuilderBob6]

Just very hard to understand the opinions you have. For an intelligent person to post what you do is mind boggling to me many times. We see the same things and see them in totally opposite ways. To each their own.

Ditto. I don’t understand how a seemingly intelligent person would argue the BLM protests are a reason people shop from home……….or are a cause for higher prices, COMPLETELY ignoring Covid and inflation. You exaggerate and lie to make things fit your narrative, over and over. You call yourself an independent and try to distance yourself from trump……..right up until the point when you DON’T……..which is reflected in every post you make. I would have more respect for you if you just told the truth and were honest about your positions……and actually give some thought to your answers before posting.

 

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Ditto. I don’t understand how a seemingly intelligent person would argue the BLM protests are a reason people shop from home……….or are a cause for higher prices, COMPLETELY ignoring Covid and inflation. You exaggerate and lie to make things fit your narrative, over and over. You call yourself an independent and try to distance yourself from trump……..right up until the point when you DON’T……..which is reflected in every post you make. I would have more respect for you if you just told the truth and were honest about your positions.

To me, that was one of the most ridiculous things I've seen in this forum. The logic these folks have is scary.

 

[SKYDOG]

Ditto. I don’t understand how a seemingly intelligent person would argue the BLM protests are a reason people shop from home……….or are a cause for higher prices, COMPLETELY ignoring Covid and inflation. You exaggerate and lie to make things fit your narrative, over and over. You call yourself an independent and try to distance yourself from trump……..right up until the point when you DON’T……..which is reflected in every post you make. I would have more respect for you if you just told the truth and were honest about your positions……and actually give some thought to your answers before posting.

I’ll clear up the Trump thing now going forward. I once again didn’t vote for him or Biden the last time. If Trump is the nominee this time, I’m voting for him.

BLM former protests are not the reason people shop from home. People are shopping from home for convenience and many are afraid from all the crime. Crime currently is democratic issue they won’t or refuse to deal with. Voting for democrats is a vote for crime. I’m willing to give the other side a chance to fix it. If they don’t, I won’t be voting for them the next time around.