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That’s roughly what it would cost to get rid of Walters. Not gonna happen, no matter how badly he sink the FB program…
 
The loss of revenue from the fans not going/watching the game I would think would be MUCH higher, so I wouldn't say never.
Yeah, and when you add merch sales, people being less likely to pony up NIL money, and other secondary sources of revenue, it adds up fast. Most of the tickets have already been sold, but empty seats don't buy food and drinks at games, so you also lose that money as well.
 
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$9mil is nothing with a 60-65mil TV nut coming in. Season tickets are already sold this year but will take a big hit over the next 2 if we just let him stay.

If he’s 1-11 or 2-10 you have to move on and hope that steady ticket revenue in 25 and 26 covers the difference.

The one good thing about his hire is that his buyout was short and not an insurmountable barrier to moving on.
 
The school need not pony up a dime IF it’s time to part ways with a HC. (Personally I’m not there. Yet.) Recently Texas A & M alums gathered the cash to buy out Jimbo. For BIG $$. Purdue is a better school therefore
most likely has more cash-laden alums to do the dirty deed if necessary. Alums from an elite school like Purdue could pull that off in a millisecond. Right?

But relating back to a post I made earlier, our school is beholden to the football cabal that says there can only be so many “non-Ohio States” at a time in any given conference and right now, it ain’t our turn. Our AD and BOT plays along. It’s just the way it is. That said, if we want to at least try to attempt consistent competitiveness, see Iowa. Get strong, get physical, do not waver. Stay the course. The fact our running game the last 15 games (overall) has been good gives me a glimmer of hope.
 
That’s roughly what it would cost to get rid of Walters. Not gonna happen, no matter how badly he sink the FB program…
One point of clarification - it’s not $9 million due when he’s fired. He just gets 75 percent of his normal pay for the next 3 years.

What I don’t know is if there’s offset language in the contract.
 
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I always laugh when fans complain about how much a buyout is as if it's coming out of their own pocket.
Unless you're a mega-donor and a bunch of other mega-donors call you up and ask for how much you're willing to contribute to a buyout, the number is irrelevant to the normal fan.
 
It’s industry standard. Pretty much every HC contract in college is fully guaranteed

I always laugh when fans complain about how much a buyout is as if it's coming out of their own pocket.
Unless you're a mega-donor and a bunch of other mega-donors call you up and ask for how much you're willing to contribute to a buyout, the number is irrelevant to the normal fan.
A big buyout affects the stickiness of a coaching contract, reducing the likelihood of moving on after a failure, and calls further into question the wisdom of the initial hire. Plus, over-spending on a bad bet reduces resources to compete for a quality replacement. I believe it’s rational for fans to think about this stuff, considering how much it impacts the program’s future.
 
A big buyout affects the stickiness of a coaching contract, reducing the likelihood of moving on after a failure, and calls further into question the wisdom of the initial hire. Plus, over-spending on a bad bet reduces resources to compete for a quality replacement. I believe it’s rational for fans to think about this stuff, considering how much it impacts the program’s future.
9mil doesn’t impact the programs future when we will bring in almost 200mil in TV money and likely another 60-70mil in other revenue over that time
 
One point of clarification - it’s not $9 million due when he’s fired. He just gets 75 percent of his normal pay for the next 3 years.

What I don’t know is if there’s offset language in the contract.
I don’t think offset language will be a thing here. If he gets another job somewhere maybe as coordinator he will be paid very minimal. If I were in that position I might just spend the next 3 years staying home with my family and maybe working the money made already.
 
The school need not pony up a dime IF it’s time to part ways with a HC. (Personally I’m not there. Yet.) Recently Texas A & M alums gathered the cash to buy out Jimbo. For BIG $$. Purdue is a better school therefore
most likely has more cash-laden
The school need not pony up a dime IF it’s time to part ways with a HC. (Personally I’m not there. Yet.) Recently Texas A & M alums gathered the cash to buy out Jimbo. For BIG $$. Purdue is a better school therefore
most likely has more cash-laden alums to do the dirty deed if necessary. Alums from an elite school like Purdue could pull that off in a millisecond. Right?

But relating back to a post I made earlier, our school is beholden to the football cabal that says there can only be so many “non-Ohio States” at a time in any given conference and right now, it ain’t our turn. Our AD and BOT plays along. It’s just the way it is. That said, if we want to at least try to attempt consistent competitiveness, see Iowa. Get strong, get physical, do not waver. Stay the course. The fact our running game the last 15 games (overall) has been good gives me a glimmer of ho
alums to do the dirty deed if necessary. Alums from an elite school like Purdue could pull that off in a millisecond. Right?

But relating back to a post I made earlier, our school is beholden to the football cabal that says there can only be so many “non-Ohio States” at a time in any given conference and right now, it ain’t our turn. Our AD and BOT plays along. It’s just the way it is. That said, if we want to at least try to attempt consistent competitiveness, see Iowa. Get strong, get physical, do not waver. Stay the course. The fact our running game the last 15 games (overall) has been good gives me a glimmer of hope.
Iowa has a coach, we do not....
 
A big buyout affects the stickiness of a coaching contract, reducing the likelihood of moving on after a failure, and calls further into question the wisdom of the initial hire. Plus, over-spending on a bad bet reduces resources to compete for a quality replacement. I believe it’s rational for fans to think about this stuff, considering how much it impacts the program’s future.
I disagree. Purdue has plenty of money. Losing $9M on a buyout doesn't impact anything. Sure, the athletic dept will cry poor and ask for more donations, but they know the name of the game is money and you have to be willing to spend and risk it.
There's a much greater financial risk by letting your program fall to the very bottom, losing the fan base, etc, than there is with making a change eating a buyout.
 
9mil doesn’t impact the programs future when we will bring in almost 200mil in TV money and likely another 60-70mil in other revenue over that time

I disagree. Purdue has plenty of money. Losing $9M on a buyout doesn't impact anything. Sure, the athletic dept will cry poor and ask for more donations, but they know the name of the game is money and you have to be willing to spend and risk it.
There's a much greater financial risk by letting your program fall to the very bottom, losing the fan base, etc, than there is with making a change eating a buyout.
I agree with your premise, and the idea that if there was one checkbook and one check writer, this logic would hold up. But it’s that “crying poor and asking for donations” thing that impedes the right decision being made quickly. How many times have you seen programs hang onto a coach too long and start tanking even though it doesn’t make financial sense? I think that’s all people are worried about with a big buyout.
 
I disagree. Purdue has plenty of money. Losing $9M on a buyout doesn't impact anything. Sure, the athletic dept will cry poor and ask for more donations, but they know the name of the game is money and you have to be willing to spend and risk it.
There's a much greater financial risk by letting your program fall to the very bottom, losing the fan base, etc, than there is with making a change eating a buyout.
Our program is now close to the bottom of the barrel. The only P4 team lower than us on the Athletic's rankings of D1 football teams is Mississippi State, and I bet we drop behind them at some point.
 
I agree with your premise, and the idea that if there was one checkbook and one check writer, this logic would hold up. But it’s that “crying poor and asking for donations” thing that impedes the right decision being made quickly. How many times have you seen programs hang onto a coach too long and start tanking even though it doesn’t make financial sense? I think that’s all people are worried about with a big buyout.
There’s no lump sum to be paid tho. $3 mil per over 3 years is a drop in the bucket and the 1 blessing of the contract we signed.

If there’s no DRAMATIC improvement you have to cut bait. 15 games I don’t think there can be a jury that’s still deliberating. The team is so broken on each side of the ball the program needs a total tear down 21 months in. Just imagine how bad it gets 12+ months from now.

Admit the mistake and move on. Bobinski has enough positive this doesn’t cost him his job. If staff is left to fester another year…then it’s negligence and he should be put out along with Walters.
 
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