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My original point was that poverty dropped to a 50 yr low. If low corporate tax are bad, how did it result in lower poverty? What were the contributing factors that are missing?

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Wow, this is a simplistic take with zero data to back it up. Where are you getting any data stating low corporate taxes result in lower poverty rates? Correlation is not causation.
 
Wow, this is a simplistic take with zero data to back it up. Where are you getting any data stating low corporate taxes result in lower poverty rates? Correlation is not causation.
While wage growth for higher earners tends to be tied to stronger corporate profits, the benefits to lower-paid workers tend to arise as the labor market gets tighter, according to the Goldman analysis.

low unemployment drives higher wages

 
I live in a blue state, genius. And it's as awesome as anyone could imagine. No knuckle draggers walking around with guns strapped all over them, no insane election laws meant to only allow white people to vote, no forcing unwanted pregnancies and then denying healthcare coverage to the unintentional parents ...
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What election law would that be, specifically? Let’s hear the details of how it discriminates against non whites. Please, enlighten us all with specifics.

Unwanted pregnancies? Unintentional parents?But I thought choices have consequences? Isn’t that what you all said about the unvaccinated and people dying? Does that not apply now? Birth control is accessible and free to anyone that needs it. There are literally millions of people waiting to adopt who would be willing to take a baby off anyone’s hands. If you don’t want to feed em, don’t breed em. It really is that simple……well at least for those of us that don’t support killing babies. You all are morally bankrupt swine.
 
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I live in a blue state, genius. And it's as awesome as anyone could imagine. No knuckle draggers walking around with guns strapped all over them, no insane election laws meant to only allow white people to vote, no forcing unwanted pregnancies and then denying healthcare coverage to the unintentional parents ...
“It’s as awesome as anyone could imagine” and then you follow that up with dramatic and false Democrat talking points. You’re one of the mentally ill white liberals on the board. How could I forget? Always dancing for Democrats. The party. The party. The party.
 
I live in a blue state, genius. And it's as awesome as anyone could imagine. No knuckle draggers walking around with guns strapped all over them, no insane election laws meant to only allow white people to vote, no forcing unwanted pregnancies and then denying healthcare coverage to the unintentional parents ...
Do you really believe that red states have people walking around with guns strapped all over them? Mentally ill. Election laws meant for only white people to vote? Mentally ill. Forcing unwanted pregnancies? Mentally ill. What a lib!!!!
 
While wage growth for higher earners tends to be tied to stronger corporate profits, the benefits to lower-paid workers tend to arise as the labor market gets tighter, according to the Goldman analysis.

low unemployment drives higher wages

Where in this article are low corporate taxes mentioned again? I'm pretty sure that was paramount to your argument.
 
Do you really believe that red states have people walking around with guns strapped all over them? Mentally ill. Election laws meant for only white people to vote? Mentally ill. Forcing unwanted pregnancies? Mentally ill. What a lib!!!!
Did you just have another stroke while posting, Loovlle Fishbot?
 
“It’s as awesome as anyone could imagine” and then you follow that up with dramatic and false Democrat talking points. You’re one of the mentally ill white liberals on the board. How could I forget? Always dancing for Democrats. The party. The party. The party.
LOL, this is a hilarious take. You sound completely unhinged. Are you the guy that people cross the street to avoid running into in person?
 
Where in this article are low corporate taxes mentioned again? I'm pretty sure that was paramount to your argument.

From Forbes

It is important to remember that corporate taxes must be paid by people. Any corporate tax increase will be paid by either shareholders/owners, employees in the form of lower wages, or customers in the form of higher prices. A study from 2016 finds that shareholders/owners bear around 40% of state corporate income taxes while employees bear 30 to 35%. So, even though corporate tax increases are not levied directly on workers, they still affect workers indirectly by lowering their wages.

Higher wages from lower corporate taxes leads to lower poverty. Assuming people are working, which in 2019 was apparent with unemployment at 50 year lows…like the poverty level was at 50 year lows.

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From Forbes

It is important to remember that corporate taxes must be paid by people. Any corporate tax increase will be paid by either shareholders/owners, employees in the form of lower wages, or customers in the form of higher prices. A study from 2016 finds that shareholders/owners bear around 40% of state corporate income taxes while employees bear 30 to 35%. So, even though corporate tax increases are not levied directly on workers, they still affect workers indirectly by lowering their wages.

You're repeating Federalist Society BS talking points.

Raising the corporate tax would only affect worker's take home pay if the board/execs make the deliberate decision to lower wages. Which they already willing and able to do, seeing as how wages have stagnated over the past 40 years relative to worker productivity.

Shareholders and owners should be paying more.
 
You're repeating Federalist Society BS talking points.

Raising the corporate tax would only affect worker's take home pay if the board/execs make the deliberate decision to lower wages. Which they already willing and able to do, seeing as how wages have stagnated over the past 40 years relative to worker productivity.

Shareholders and owners should be paying more.
Why? So more people can sit at home and not work with 10MM job openings. Oh, and when they go to work, they DONT pay federal income tax
 

From Forbes

It is important to remember that corporate taxes must be paid by people. Any corporate tax increase will be paid by either shareholders/owners, employees in the form of lower wages, or customers in the form of higher prices. A study from 2016 finds that shareholders/owners bear around 40% of state corporate income taxes while employees bear 30 to 35%. So, even though corporate tax increases are not levied directly on workers, they still affect workers indirectly by lowering their wages.

Higher wages from lower corporate taxes leads to lower poverty. Assuming people are working, which in 2019 was apparent with unemployment at 50 year lows…like the poverty level was at 50 year lows.

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You're making a pretty big leap here. Once again, correlation is not causation. Poverty is a complicated issue, and lower corporate tax rates don't directly lead to lower poverty rates. That's such an oversimplification, that it's almost laughable.
 
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Why? So more people can sit at home and not work with 10MM job openings. Oh, and when they go to work, they DONT pay federal income tax
What's interesting is that recent studies have contradicted the theory that cutting back on unemployment benefits got people back to work. It turns out Republicans were wrong yet again.


 
You're making a pretty big leap here. Once again, correlation is not causation. Poverty is a complicated issue, and lower corporate tax rates don't directly lead to lower poverty rates. That's such an oversimplification, that it's almost laughable.
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10MM jobs
 
What's interesting is that recent studies have contradicted the theory that cutting back on unemployment benefits got people back to work. It turns out Republicans were wrong yet again.


 
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My original point was that poverty dropped to a 50 yr low. If low corporate tax are bad, how did it result in lower poverty? What were the contributing factors that are missing?

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You'd have a point if the poverty rate was steady and then all of a sudden dropped after cutting taxes, but that's not what happened.
 
What's interesting is that recent studies have contradicted the theory that cutting back on unemployment benefits got people back to work. It turns out Republicans were wrong yet again.


The nations highest taxing state has the highest level of homelessness. If high taxes are so good, why hasn’t it solved all of California’s problems?

 
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The nations highest taxing state has the highest level of homelessness. If high taxes are so good, why hasn’t it solved all of California’s problems?

Addressed elsewhere - high cost of living for various reasons, milder weather is easier to be homeless in, and it's a state with an absolutely massive population. Again, you're all about black and white. You're evidently incapable of understanding the complexities of different issues.
 
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Addressed elsewhere - high cost of living for various reasons, milder weather is easier to be homeless in, and it's a state with an absolutely massive population. Again, you're all about black and white. You're evidently incapable of understanding the complexities of different issues.
The once Golden State is becoming a cesspool. Illegals moving in as fast as the factories and working citizens are leaving.
 
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The corporate tax rate isn't being adjusted to help small businesses just starting, it's for megacorporations to keep billions and for CEOs and execs to get and stay rich.

You really eat up the corporate propaganda huh?
It's funny that the countries Bernie points to as his Democratic Socialist utopia have the lowest corporate tax rates in Europe and on par with the US. But lets keep taxing to pay for ridiculous spending...

Finland 20%
Sweden 20.6%
Norway 22%
US 21%
 
You're repeating Federalist Society BS talking points.

Raising the corporate tax would only affect worker's take home pay if the board/execs make the deliberate decision to lower wages. Which they already willing and able to do, seeing as how wages have stagnated over the past 40 years relative to worker productivity.

Shareholders and owners should be paying more.
You do realize that increased taxes on businesses will just lead to price increases, right? Do you really believe corporations will just eat those losses and allow their ROI to dip? So who do you think is going to pay for those increase in taxes? I'll give you a hint. The consumer...
 
The once Golden State is becoming a cesspool. Illegals moving in as fast as the factories and working citizens are leaving.
Factories left years ago. Manufacturing is done in states and countries with less income. California has an economy larger than multiple countries, so I don't think they're worried about a RWNJ like yourself bitching about "illegals."
 
Factories left years ago. Manufacturing is done in states and countries with less income. California has an economy larger than multiple countries, so I don't think they're worried about a RWNJ like yourself bitching about "illegals."
No bitching, just stating facts.
Why are people leaving California in record numbers?
I‘lol hang up and listen to your answer.
 
No bitching, just stating facts.
Why are people leaving California in record numbers?
I‘lol hang up and listen to your answer.
No, you're not stating facts. "The Golden State is becoming a cesspool" is about the definition of opinion. Have you actually even been there recently?
 
It's funny that the countries Bernie points to as his Democratic Socialist utopia have the lowest corporate tax rates in Europe and on par with the US. But lets keep taxing to pay for ridiculous spending...

Finland 20%
Sweden 20.6%
Norway 22%
US 21%
Are you saying that Finland, Norway, and Sweden are bad places to live? Finland is the happiest country on Earth. It's also an awesome place in a variety of ways.
 
Are you saying that Finland, Norway, and Sweden are bad places to live? Finland is the happiest country on Earth. It's also an awesome place in a variety of ways.
Umm, you just made my point. If these countries can support a positive lifestyle for it's citizens without raising corporate taxes to 24% to 28%, why can't the US do the same? Maybe because we're spending tax dollars on the wrong things???
 
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No, you're not stating facts. "The Golden State is becoming a cesspool" is about the definition of opinion. Have you actually even been there recently?
Taken a drive through San Francisco lately?
My daughter and son in law just moved back to Wisconsin after four years in Suisun,
A town 40 miles or so from San Fran. She is a Chemical Engineer and turned down a $100,000
pay increase to stay here. They couldn’t wait to get out once their child was born.
Their words, We won’t raise our child near that cesspool.
We visited half a dozen times in the four years they lived there.
Winter was nice, summer was desert like. Hot and dry.
Suisun was a pretty laid back, Midwest type town. The cesspool was just to close for their liking.
 
Umm, you just made my point. If these countries can support a positive lifestyle for it's citizens without raising corporate taxes to 24% to 28%, why can't the US do the same? Maybe because we're spending tax dollars on the wrong things???
You realize those aren't "low" corporate tax rates, right? Also, are you advocating for more socialism? That's at odds with your fellow right-wingers.
 
Taken a drive through San Francisco lately?
My daughter and son in law just moved back to Wisconsin after four years in Suisun,
A town 40 miles or so from San Fran. She is a Chemical Engineer and turned down a $100,000
pay increase to stay here. They couldn’t wait to get out once their child was born.
Their words, We won’t raise our child near that cesspool.
We visited half a dozen times in the four years they lived there.
Winter was nice, summer was desert like. Hot and dry.
Suisun was a pretty laid back, Midwest type town. The cesspool was just to close for their liking.
I also live pretty close to a cesspool. Indiana is like 45 minutes away.
 
You do realize that increased taxes on businesses will just lead to price increases, right? Do you really believe corporations will just eat those losses and allow their ROI to dip? So who do you think is going to pay for those increase in taxes? I'll give you a hint. The consumer...
They just can't grasp the concept , whether its technically taxes going directly from you to the govt or via someone else when taxes get raised on the rich they get raised on all of us.
 
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You realize those aren't "low" corporate tax rates, right? Also, are you advocating for more socialism? That's at odds with your fellow right-wingers.
WTF are you talking about? My point was that Dems want to raise corporate taxes and use the Nordic states as their utopia that they want to achieve. Not realizing corporate tax rates are very similar between countries and the US...
 
I also live pretty close to a cesspool. Indiana is like 45 minutes away.
When tens of thousands of working, educated people start leaving Indiana, when the homeless have tent cities, when human feces infect the public streets and businesses suffer because of it, than you may define Indiana as a cesspool.
There are beautiful parts of California. The major California cities are not in that category.
 
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WTF are you talking about? My point was that Dems want to raise corporate taxes and use the Nordic states as their utopia that they want to achieve. Not realizing corporate tax rates are very similar between countries and the US...
WTF are you talking about? Corporate taxes aren't the only metric that matters. Why are you right wingers stuck on this specific topic, claiming it's a panacea? Also, there aren't a lot of major global corporations in any of those countries. It's apples to oranges.
 
WTF are you talking about? Corporate taxes aren't the only metric that matters. Why are you right wingers stuck on this specific topic, claiming it's a panacea? Also, there aren't a lot of major global corporations in any of those countries. It's apples to oranges.
Because your idiotic party wants to raise corporate taxes, dipshit. That's why...
 
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Because your idiotic party wants to raise corporate taxes, dipshit. That's why...
We're done here. You're a jackass with a myopic, simplistic view. Sounds very Republican. Your idiotic trickle down economics didn't work in the '80s and doesn't work now. Your profile picture is beyond the realm of stupid, even for someone of your ilk.
 
You do realize that increased taxes on businesses will just lead to price increases, right? Do you really believe corporations will just eat those losses and allow their ROI to dip? So who do you think is going to pay for those increase in taxes? I'll give you a hint. The consumer...
That's absolutely not true. And prices increase anyway, even when corporate tax rates have been dropping for decades.

But keep eating up the corporate propaganda slop yall love so much.
 
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