#2 Alabama at #13 Purdue: MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD

[Boiler Buck]

Heide woke up too!!!

Dude got 8 boards tonight in 23 minutes. That is awesome. Looks like he found his role.

TKR and Heide have been the difference in changing a good team to a great team.

Furst played ok. I know he has more in him.

Now for coaches to get Berg going. Liked his physical play tonight.

 

[*4purdue*]

Burgess didn't get in during the 2nd half ?

No, but this game has to be a huge boost to his confidence. Gonna take some time, but the kid can play.

 

[tjreese]

it was either Cox or that kid that went to Kentucky

Catchings had extremely high potential physically, just too immature mentally

 

[tjreese]

No, but this game has to be a huge boost to his confidence. Gonna take some time, but the kid can play.

I really like him. I like the whole class

 

[collegehoopsfan123]

Burgess didn't get in during the 2nd half ?

I think so. He did score 5 in 4 min during 1st half with TKR
in some foul trouble. Seeing him hit that 3 pointer was great.

 

[Do Dah Day]

halftime guys mentioned Caleb Love, how many years is he playing college ball? guys like him, Sears, and Dickinson should be gone to some Pro level by ow, if they think they're that good why are they still around?

because those at higher levels don't think they're that good.

 

[Do Dah Day]

I may or may not have ripped my Purdue shirt off and am running around the house right now. I blame my German beer...

but --- are you wearing pants???

 

[proudopete]

This team is just so talented from top to bottom. Makes it hard to bet against them.

 

[BBG]

but --- are you wearing pants???

I can't confirm nor deny this statement.

 

[collegehoopsfan123]

Can't begin to say how pleasantly surprised I am. Boilers played great after looking pretty average up until tonight. Great team effort, great team win. 3 turnovers was huge.

Yes, and 27 bench points. I'd keep starting Berg or Burgess and then go small in the 2nd half.
It worked perfectly tonight.

 

[Do Dah Day]

I can't confirm nor deny this statement.

I take that as a yes ... or no ...

 

[Do Dah Day]

I can't confirm nor deny this statement.

Are you retrired yet?

 

[BBG]

Are you retrired yet?

Eh sorta.. I go from being done to being sucked back in because I'm bored.

 

[Do Dah Day]

Eh sorta.. I go from being done to being sucked back in because I'm bored.

HA - I get that, The main character in my book keeps going on missions .,,, My son is out for good as of August ... 23 years - 9 war zone deployments

 

[nime6]

Berg shouldn’t be the starter or even playing unless the other 2 have foul trouble or we can’t play small. Only negative takeaway. Can’t tell you what he does to impact the game. Can’t score and doesn’t rebound.

Burgess or Furst should he starting

 

[BBG]

HA - I get that, The main character in my book keeps going on missions .,,, My son is out for good as of August ... 23 years - 9 war zone deployments

Well be sure to thank your son for his service for me! That is a whole lotta deployment time!

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Berg shouldn’t be the starter or even playing unless the other 2 have foul trouble or we can’t play small. Only negative takeaway. Can’t tell you what he does to impact the game. Can’t score and doesn’t rebound.

Burgess or Furst should he starting

On the flip side to that, I think he played very well those first 5 mins of the game —for him. That was the best he looked so far. Now understand, it’s not where we need him to be to make a deep run with him playing major mins. But it was encouraging to see the effort and more physicality from him than we had seen in the first 3 games.
I don’t mind him starting games—it’s kinda like TKR last year…it forces the other teams to play us differently. Liking the rotations we have and the majority of the last 2 games, TKR has played the 5 with Heide at the 4. Even Furst looked a lot better out there last night. Then we get to our closing lineup and Berg is not there (which is fine) and we go small(er).

Hopefully, he continues to improve and understand his role to allow the team to be really successful.

 

[POTFHBTFU]

On the flip side to that, I think he played very well those first 5 mins of the game —for him. That was the best he looked so far. Now understand, it’s not where we need him to be to make a deep run with him playing major mins. But it was encouraging to see the effort and more physicality from him than we had seen in the first 3 games.
I don’t mind him starting games—it’s kinda like TKR last year…it forces the other teams to play us differently. Liking the rotations we have and the majority of the last 2 games, TKR has played the 5 with Heide at the 4. Even Furst looked a lot better out there last night. Then we get to our closing lineup and Berg is not there (which is fine) and we go small(er).

Hopefully, he continues to improve and understand his role to allow the team to be really successful.

This. I thought the rotation was perfect. And I thought berg did fine. game was very physical and then berg helped get some fouls called and it loosened it up for us offensively. Then we switched to small ball and were able to take off.

 

[SKYDOG]

Catchings had extremely high potential physically, just too immature mentally

Who?

 

[BoilerDaddy]

Really liked this lineup:

Smith
Cox
Loyer
Heide
TKR

 

[POTFHBTFU]

Really liked this lineup:

Smith
Cox
Loyer
Heide
TKR

Yes! I like starting with a big and bang with the big guys, open things up a bit with forcing some fouls. Then being in the speed and Heide can hit some 3s on offense and grab some rebounds on defense.

Heide is our leading rebounder per 40 minutes.l and he’s doing it against 4s.

Colvin is probably our best defender from what I see against very quick athletic guards, probably our most athletic offensive player to the rim, and a great shooter. He really has the tools to be special and he’s only 19. Painter has challenged him and he’s proven he’s up to it. I saw it last year and he’s already better than I was hoping for. Sky’s the limit.

 

[tjreese]

On the flip side to that, I think he played very well those first 5 mins of the game —for him. That was the best he looked so far. Now understand, it’s not where we need him to be to make a deep run with him playing major mins. But it was encouraging to see the effort and more physicality from him than we had seen in the first 3 games.
I don’t mind him starting games—it’s kinda like TKR last year…it forces the other teams to play us differently. Liking the rotations we have and the majority of the last 2 games, TKR has played the 5 with Heide at the 4. Even Furst looked a lot better out there last night. Then we get to our closing lineup and Berg is not there (which is fine) and we go small(er).

Hopefully, he continues to improve and understand his role to allow the team to be really successful.

I doubt Matt moves away from Berg...at least for a while. Much like Trey had minutes at the 4 last year with the anticipation dividends would be paid later in the season. Today, there is no question that Trey at the 5 is the best five. That has been known for some time. What is also known is that Berg is VERY inexperienced with some potential to improve. How much more improvement does Trey offer in the future at the five in comparison to Berg this year? The cast around Trey at the five offers some growth though. You want to win today, but you would like to have growth through the season and be the best rounded team later in the year, not at this moment...but you still want to win. Likewise, Burgess minutes will probably grow. Caleb is a known commodity as well.

Matt does NOT want a limited team. I believe he wants to be able to play big as needed and to shore up that internal D a bit better "if" possible? What happens if Trey gets foul trouble, hurt or just has a really off game? Berg may not be the answer. If not ,then Burgess gets more minutes perhaps? This team can score and Trey at the 5 can be explosive, but you do not want to peak out by December in versatility even with the growth we expect by the freshmen a bit. I expect Berg to start against Marquette and his minutes based upon his production. It is a long season and there is a reason why Berg has started even when Daniel was available...even if the results today are behind what is needed.

 

[Do Dah Day]

Well be sure to thank your son for his service for me! That is a whole lotta deployment time!

He started out in the Air Force - who had 9 month deployments. Then switched to the Army to get into Officer School. His wife was not happy with the long Army deployments

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Colvin is probably our best defender from what I see against very quick athletic guards, probably our most athletic offensive player to the rim, and a great shooter. He really has the tools to be special and he’s only 19. Painter has challenged him and he’s proven he’s up to it. I saw it last year and he’s already better than I was hoping for. Sky’s the limit.

A BIT LOUDER PLEASE!!! FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!! Especially @TwinDegrees2 😂

And pretty sure he JUST turned 19 a few months ago.

 

[Roeder]

Really liked this lineup:

Smith
Cox
Loyer
Heide
TKR

Yes. Heide rebounding well made it work. I hope he keeps that up. This team is better with him out there, and the 4 is his path to minutes.

As much as Cox offense gets attention, his defense against Sears to close the game was maybe just as impressive for a true Freshman? He didn't back down at all from the moment.

On that note it will be fun to see how Harris/Cox/Colvin improve defensively. It's early and they already seem ahead of the curve a bit.

Love, love, love Colvin not getting any shots but still impacting the game and bringing energy on D.

I'm rambling, but also noticesd Harris being fired up and one of first to congratulate Cox after his offensive outburst. These guys are all about winning and not sulking about who is getting minutes.