Since it's so fun to do the "if" thing, what would be the outcome if the boilermaker team from 09-10 played the team of this yr?? I was just a young pup then and I loved watching that team but I wonder how that would play out and how they would match up
09-10 against 16-17
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If you were just a young pup a few short years ago then you still are a young pup
I know all about feeling older before your time. I turned 42 a few months ago and my older daughter celebrates her 20th b-day in less than 2 weeks. Ugh!
I respectfully disagree. I think this team is more well rounded and deeper. However, the biggest difference I believe is actual mentality. This team expects to win every game and more importantly doesn't get intimated by big games. Yes they came out flat again both Nova and Lville but they still fought back and put themselves in a position to win both games. I think the bigger comparison should be with the 94 team. Big Dog brought that mentality to the team and it was contagious. My roommate was from Gary and I often came back to my apartment to see them playing Madden. I had many discussions with him (and usually Cuozo) and you could just tell he believed they "belonged" with any team in the country. You look back at when we played Duke in 2010, it just had a feeling that we were scared/intimidated and we lost by double digits at home.
I am usually one to always expect let down as Purdue typically does (or we've come to expect think Kyle Orton in 2004 against Wisconsin) but I really have a different feeling about this team this year.
Lj vs pj. Edge LJ big time
Moore vs Carsen. Edge Moore big time
Kramer vs Mathias. Edge Kramer
Hummel vs Vince. Edge Hummel
Johnson vs biggie. Edge Johnson
There's a reason that team was ranked 4 in the country. No contest in my opinion. It's an interesting question tho as I see that team super on defense and good on offense, where this season is the opposite.
Overall I think they would shut us down at almost every position. Pj would be rattled by jackson's ball hawking. Mathias wouldn't be able to get a shot off on Kramer. Freshman Edwards vs junior moore? No contest. Johnson would eat haas alive - he's way too quick to the point I don't even think haas would play, a la the ND game. Then biggie would be guarding JJ, but he'd be pulled from the basket by JJ's range.
Only way this team wins is if somehow both Hummel and JJ get into foul trouble and biggie is allowed to work unimpeded down low.
Lj vs pj. Edge LJ big time
Moore vs Carsen. Edge Moore big time
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There's a reason that team was ranked 4 in the country. No contest in my opinion. It's an interesting question tho as I see that team super on defense and good on offense, where this season is the opposite.
Overall I think they would shut us down at almost every position. Pj would be rattled by jackson's ball hawking. Mathias wouldn't be able to get a shot off on Kramer. Freshman Edwards vs junior moore? No contest. Johnson would eat haas alive - he's way too quick to the point I don't even think haas would play, a la the ND game. Then biggie would be guarding JJ, but he'd be pulled from the basket by JJ's range.
Only way this team wins is if somehow both Hummel and JJ get into foul trouble and biggie is allowed to work unimpeded down low.
Njm, maybe lewjack was better than I remember but I haven't seen pj get very rattled but I could be wrong.
Since Kramer was such a good defender wouldn't it be smarter to have him on the quicker and more athletic Edward an let Moore guard Mathias?
I agree with the Hummel-edwards thought.
Biggie has just as much range as JJ and would destroy him around the rim and would rebound way better but JJ is definitely a better shooter.
I think it would be a very close game!!
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Who would stop Haas? Haas would go after JJ and eat him alive inside. When Haas isn't swarmed the moment he touches the ball he is terrific. If JJ was left one on one he would be on the bench with foul trouble early. There is no way he could guard both Haas and Biggie and stay out of foul trouble. It would be close and a heck of a game to watch, but if JJ got into early foul trouble, the bigs on this current roster would have their way with that team inside. The only thing that would keep it close would be their ability to score. It is fun to think about, but I would say it would be a toss up on who was shooting better and if the current team could keep turnovers under control.
Goes the other way too. Haas could just as easily be on the bench with 3 fouls as Johnson was far quicker and that midranger jumper was unstoppable.
After thinking about it some more, I think it'd be closer than I originally thought. I still think the '10 team would win.
Jackson was a sophomore then, which is when he was hampered by a concussion and I feel like other injuries most of the year.
I think when most people think back on players, they tend to remember the senior version of that player, which always makes the teams of yesteryear better.
I still don't think this team is to that level yet. The 2010 team was on such a roll when Hummel went down...I fully believe they were one of to top two teams in the country. I think this year's team is a top ten team, but I can't say they're better than Kentucky, Louisville, Nova, UCLA, Duke, and UNC
Just curious, how young were you in 2010?
Have you watched any games from then? Kramer's impact is hard to understand from clips.
And while we're on it, you must look up big dog highlights. There was nobody like him.
I wish I could see highlights of jbc, because he's the guy my dad's generation always raves about
Have you watched any games from then? Kramer's impact is hard to understand from clips.
And while we're on it, you must look up big dog highlights. There was nobody like him.
I wish I could see highlights of jbc, because he's the guy my dad's generation always raves about
I was 16. I hadn't really gotten into basketball till just a few yrs before so I've learned a lot since then but I just remember Kramer to be a lock down defender and it seemed like he always guarded the other teams best scorer.
I've heard my uncle rave about how big dog would make shots and even when triple teamed but no, never watched him
I've heard my uncle rave about how big dog would make shots and even when triple teamed but no, never watched him
That moniker is apt for his NBA days, but not at Purdue... 2nd in points, 1st in blocks, 1st in rebounds... Led team to final four.
How is this even a discussion? Pre awful night in Minnesota it's not a question of if the 09-10 team wins but by how much. That team at full strength walks through the Big Ten this year undefeated and this year's Purdue team loses to them by double figures a majority of the time. Only advantage this year's team would have is on the boards and Kramer would make up for that with steals.
Joe Barry's problem was he looked like he was lazy but wasn't. He was a real laidback guy showing little emotion but was very talented and rarely outplayed.
09'-10' team would win. I'm pretty sure they beat two teams that made it to the Final Four. One being WV who we destroyed. Hummel doesn't go down we would have ended the season ranked #1 in the country heading into the BT Tournament. If allowed to play defense like back in 09-10 I think it might be a blowout. Kramer LewJack Grant might shut our guards down completely.
9-10 wins going away. They were 24-3 when Robbie was injured. We would have been #1 in the country and a #1 seed in the tourney that year before Hummel went down.
I was at one game when JBC put down a great dunk (expected) and then while getting back on defense gave a fist pump (unexpected) on the way down the court.
Mackey went wild on the fist pump.
JBS also started the tradition of having parents on the court for Senior night.
