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I am up to here with fans that say stupid stuff like "refs didn't affect the outcome" or "refs aren't why we lost".

8 points on 3/4 fg, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals, 2 blocks. And ZERO turnovers in 35 minutes.

And he’s the consistent voice on defense, in team huddles, and during timeouts.

He consistently contributes to winning.
Next you’ll tell me Galloway is a good 3pt shooter

I am up to here with fans that say stupid stuff like "refs didn't affect the outcome" or "refs aren't why we lost".

Lol “toughness” and “leadership” cmon man. Kid is a try hard. An older version of cupps.
8 points on 3/4 fg, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals, 2 blocks. And ZERO turnovers in 35 minutes. And spent about half his time guarding Smith. If Cupps can ever be that good it would be a real find for Indiana.

Leal is also the consistent voice on defense, in team huddles, and during timeouts.

He consistently contributes to winning.

Play small, lose Big

Yeah that’s been the weird thing during this losing streak. We’ve been up double digits or close to it, in the first half of each of these games. We have come out flat every single time to start the second half. Which is something that usually didn’t happen. I’m not sure if we aren’t adjusting or the other team has better adjustments, or maybe we are just tired?

I couldn’t understand why we didn’t just let iu shoot from the outside all game? We played up in them in the perimeter and allowed them to score at will in the paint. Like, they are BAD shooting from the outside…we should have been 3-4 ft off their shooters. Anyways, hopefully, over the next few weeks we get rest and confidence back and make a run in the tourney (we are due for a surprise run)!
Matt did say that too much worry at the arc with people you want to shoot and how many times did the shot fake end up with a drive to the basket. If you don't turn IU over and with their spacing it was hard, then much more sag from the perimeter is needed. Missing behind the arc leads to less confidence where as scoring at will in the lane leads to confidence. Now if they kill it behind the arc...then that is their day most likely even if a change later in the game as far as extending the D takes place. Still, as you said Purdue has not been very good the 2nd half and that is with 4 different teams even though Matt that has been good in the second half mostly.

The team meeting is potentially good and can result in more ownership by each and understanding and/or reconciliation of other's concerns as well. It was needed...

I am up to here with fans that say stupid stuff like "refs didn't affect the outcome" or "refs aren't why we lost".

No clue what a cylinder foul is. Day before in the Houston Iowa state game, Iowa state was defending Houston (cryer). Iowa state defended was in a great defensive position. Cryer swung his elbow up and across and nailed the Iowa state player in the face. Foul called on cryer initially, then they reviewed and reversed the call and said it was a cylinder foul. Bilas, which I agreed with, said “if that’s a cylinder foul, then you’re always going to be in the cylinder on defense”. Then we see Trey called for it, but was the complete opposite of the day prior.

I’m not saying that Leal ejected would have changed the game. But we have seen Leach for NW get kicked out for less incidental than Leal, saw McGee kicked out for outstretched hand into TKR, and toppin for Texas tech get kicked out for even less than that. Not denying Furst pulled him down and could have been a hook and hold, but how Leal isn’t assessed an F2 based on just the three examples is wild to me. They at least both should have received technicals. But by not doing that, the refs set the tone. And then Leal got away with murder all game.
it looked to me that leal undercut Caleb and Caleb naturally braced his fall. Foul on Leal. OR did Caleb jump over leal and if so foul on Caleb. Instead High Knees was too tired from stepping up and down the court that he just looked at them and when Caleb grimaced...then High Knees found the whistle and held up the game for a small break in play. I thought as did many and suppose many still do think that three refs with smaller areas to watch would be better than two refs. I'm unsure that is the case as "is". Perhaps 3 is the better approach, but then something needs to improve the variation in calls we see "if possible".
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Common theme for the four-game meltdown with same personnel but different usage by halves …

Halftime Scores …
Purdue 37, Michigan 35
Purdue 37, Wisconsin 36
Michigan State 33, Purdue 31
Purdue 37, indinia 25

Second-Half Scoring …
Michigan 40 (32 in last 10 minutes), Purdue 36
Wisconsin 58, Purdue 47
Michigan State 42, Purdue 35
indinia 48, Purdue 21

Second-Half Shooting …
Purdue 47, Michigan 42
Wisconsin 72, Purdue 55
Michigan State 68, Purdue 50
indinia 64, Purdue 30

Purdue used three or all four of its bigs (6-9 or taller) in each first half against the consistently bigger opponents, led at halftime of each or close to it, then used mostly one big at a time in second half though foul troubles worsened from playing solo, leaving all lanes open to the basket, leading to yet another late runaway loss.

Second-half small ball lost the Big Ten, taking Purdue from first to sixth with four straight lookalike losses. Not that we hadn’t seen this four-guard short show before. Time to man up.
Yeah that’s been the weird thing during this losing streak. We’ve been up double digits or close to it, in the first half of each of these games. We have come out flat every single time to start the second half. Which is something that usually didn’t happen. I’m not sure if we aren’t adjusting or the other team has better adjustments, or maybe we are just tired?

I couldn’t understand why we didn’t just let iu shoot from the outside all game? We played up in them in the perimeter and allowed them to score at will in the paint. Like, they are BAD shooting from the outside…we should have been 3-4 ft off their shooters. Anyways, hopefully, over the next few weeks we get rest and confidence back and make a run in the tourney (we are due for a surprise run)!

Play small, lose Big

I just watched them beat Arizona (probably 4-5 games) He has a nice looking shot. I just think his offensive game would have saw minutes on the floor at 6'9".

We have underdeveloped 4's right now and we haven't seen much out of that position all year. I'm sorry, but we need help at that position severely or move TKR back to his rightful position and bring in bigger 3's along with DJ.
Agreed.

I’d suspect TKR will play the 4 with DJ next year at the 5. However, TKR will be the main guy down low on offense.

Braden was just awful

I would expect we'd match anything
I sure hope we do and we are able to. Give him the money and the pieces. I would really hope we’d do that for one of the best players in program history/best PG ever in the history. As well as a top PG/NPOTY candidate for next year who has a chance to be the all time leader in assists in all of college ball.

It’ll be our best shot at an NC run if we retain everyone and get at least two portal guys.
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I just watched them beat Arizona (probably 4-5 games) He has a nice looking shot. I just think his offensive game would have saw minutes on the floor at 6'9".

We have underdeveloped 4's right now and we haven't seen much out of that position all year. I'm sorry, but we need help at that position severely or move TKR back to his rightful position and bring in bigger 3's along with DJ.
Haven't seen him in college. With his head on...he could fill teh 2,3 or 4 depending on the other players. He probably isn't happy at BYU and won't surprise any of us if he is in the portal.

Olive Branch

Hey guys,

Some of you may remember me as a frequent poster over here in the past. Life has taken over and I don’t spend much time on the forums (IU or Purdue), nor do I really get a chance to watch the way I used to. I also don’t really have the urge with the way college basketball is operating now. Anyway, I watched yesterday’s game and just had a few things to say.

1. I absolutely think Leal should’ve been ejected. IMO, it was a flagrant 1 on Furst and a flagrant 2 on Leal. Couldn’t believe the no call.

2. I didn’t like the flagrant 1 on Kaufman, especially after the pass they gave Leal. Bigs can’t raise their hands anymore? Not sure either call impacted the outcome but that’s just how I felt about it.

3. Braden Smith was a player I wanted IU to pursue and I’m happy to see he’s had the career I thought he’d have. Like I said, I don’t watch a lot anymore but I remember him as a recruit and he turned out as expected. Not his best game yesterday but that happens. I’m always happy to see a homegrown player prosper.

Finally, I’ve gained a lot more respect for Painter. I always had respect for him as a coach but I loved hearing the announcers talk about how he didn’t have any transfers. NIL and the transfer portal kind of killed my love for college basketball and it’s great to see someone still trying to build a program. I hope IU’s next hire embraces the same philosophy. Maybe it would inspire me to care again.

Braden was just awful

He’s played alongside Braden for 3 years now. He had a whole summer this past year by himself to get ready for those passes (I say by himself as he had no competition from edey anymore and he was the starter).
It's mind boggling to me the number of people who think Berg should get more minutes. It's the end of his third season.

He's not Steve Sheffler.

I am up to here with fans that say stupid stuff like "refs didn't affect the outcome" or "refs aren't why we lost".

Nah, Leal sucks anyways, having him in didn’t hurt Purdue. Purdue 100% got worked, it is what it is, Purdue needs to play better, this roster is flawed.
Lealwas better than Smith soo... It helped Indiana. He's was the energy and glue.
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The art of the deal

The lyrics of the US Army Choir- Choosing an ultimate song of protest directly to the face of Donald Trump:

“Do you hear the people sing?
Lost in the valley of the night
It is the music of a people who are climbing to the light
For the wretched of the earth
There is a flame that never dies
Even the darkest nights will end and the sun will rise

They will live again in freedom in the garden of the lord
They will walk behind the ploughshare
They will put away the sword
The chain will be broken and all men will have their reward!

Will you join in our crusade?
Who will be strong and stand with me?
Somewhere beyond the barricade is there a world you long to see?
Do you hear the people sing?
Say, do you hear the distant drums?
It is the future that they bring when tomorrow comes!
One Day More!”

I am up to here with fans that say stupid stuff like "refs didn't affect the outcome" or "refs aren't why we lost".

I recall Jim Boehiem of Syracuse was always complaining and whining about the refs and their officiating. He’d complain before, during and after the game.

I hated that guy, but his players loved him and they won a championship. Maybe it was all an act like John McEnroe to motivate his players .
He won a championship because he had a future HOFer on his team paired with another NBA player and an amazing point guard who could give you 30 any given night. Gerry McNamara was so fun to watch.
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I am up to here with fans that say stupid stuff like "refs didn't affect the outcome" or "refs aren't why we lost".

To be honest, Purdue did sign another Big man - Burgess. Jacobsen was not supposed to have arrived until next year. But he reclassified.

I’ve read multiple statements that the reason Burgess has contributed so little was that when he arrived at Purdue, he was not in proper physical shape or conditioning to play college basketball. I looked for further insider info as to what that meant and found nobody wanted to elaborate. I don’t know if arrived out of shape or was recovering from an injury or lacked the stamina to play the vigors of college basketball.

I just know this was said immediately following Jacobsen injury as the reason why Burgess was not receiving additional minutes.

Ideally it would have been great if Burgess was healthy enough to play at the beginning of the season. This was only mentioned at the beginning of the year. It may have been mentioned when it was announced that Jacobsen had beaten out the competition and would be starting

Maybe Burgess is still suffering from a lingering issue. Or maybe he still isn’t 100% conditioned yet. I remember Tractor Traylor. He had weight and conditioning issues. He was great for 5-10 minute spurts and then just stood there. He lost 50-80 pounds after the season right before the draft. When he played in all star games and for pro scouts, he never played more than 10 minutes, so they assumed he was going to be awesome. But after he signed his nba contract, he went off his diet, gained all his weight back. And his conditioning problems resurfaced. I remember the bucks making the mistake of drafting him and believing they could convert him into being a big PF. It never worked out.

Anybody know the story on Burgess? Is it a lingering injury? Conditioning issues? Lack of understanding the playbook? Yes, Jacobsen beat him out to be the starter. But a lot was expected from Burgess when he was recruited.
He has had two surgeries in high school. Pretty sure you’re wrong and he was not expected to play much/was expected to RS. Don’t think we thought we’d lean on him as painter seemed to think berg was ready for the next step.

DJ didn’t “reclassify”. He decided not to go another year of prep school. He is In the correct class.

The art of the deal

The war in Ukraine might have been avoided had Crow made it clear the US did not support Ukraine joining NATO. To do so would either have prevented the war or else removed a major excuse for Putin to launch the invasion. As it is, Putin cites NATO expansion as a major justification.

I have told you this several times before but it must be too complicated for you to comprehend.
I comprehend fine. I don't believe Vladimir Putin. WHY DO YOU?

I don't give a flying fck what his "excuse" is. WHY DO YOU?

Putin wants to resurrect the old USSR and believes Ukraine is part of that. He believes there is no such thing as Ukrainians. They're all Russians to him. That's why he did it.

You said you read the WSJ. Read this.......with an open mind if that's possible.

Alternative to Catchings

Looking back, it seems like Painter had a lot of early commitments to fill up the class that he really didn’t do any other recruiting.
This is what the typical process was prior to the transfer portal.
I was wrong in my stated date of Catchings leaving. He left in June, not August. However by that time all of the elite high school recruits had already committed.

With Catchings leaving and the scholarship situation resolved, Painter probably thought about the portal, but felt with Jacobsen and TKR and all his guards, he really didn’t need to try to recruit a portal player to fill the void left by Catchings.
The scholarship was resolved by Purdue being at the correct limit. He would not have been able to sign someone else with it being so late, as a majority of players were committed by the time Catchings left. I believe the portal was already closed by then as well.
I’m going to speculate if Catchings had never committed, painter probably would have recruited another wing /power forward. Rather than Cox.
He was recruiting Perry, another PG when he saw CJ. If he hadn’t recruited CJ, he had gone after Perry, or with DJ not reclassifying, he may not have gone after anyone after Perry (which was well known UK was his number 1).

Or he may have convinced Gillis to stay another year. I’m convinced if Painter had asked Gillis to stay another year, he would have. I’m also convinced that Painter contacted the Duke coach with a good word for Gillis
It can’t be stated enough, that Gillis decided at the beginning of his last season that he was going to leave. Painter made all 3 seniors decide at the beginning of last year. He said he’d welcome them all with open arms, had they all wanted to come back. However, if they decided to hit the portal, he wanted to give them the time to get the best possible NIL deal and go to the best team possible for their skills. Gillis has said this in a podcast interview and Paint has said it in another podcast interview. So, paint could not have asked Gillis back as he had already committed to Duke, which he stated was his dream school growing up.

Faux News' Jesse Watters' Friend Got DOGE'd

Do Musk's kids have clearance to even to even see what these people do who they're firing ? Musk does massive business in China. How many of his boys have Chinese contacts? Do you know? Does trump know? Do we just take Elon's word for it that his staff can be trusted?


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