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Gene Keady was underpaid

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Purdue Salaries (1987) - found this from the Exponent in 1987 while I was looking for something else. A decent salary back then, but basketball coaches have come a long way since. To think that Gene made less than Fred Akers and significantly less than Steven Beering! I imagine that ratio for basketball coaches:college presidents has now flipped (and then some) for major conference schools. Also, love the ad to watch the Purdue-Louisville football game at Quincey's. That was my first football game as a student. We ended up tying the Howard Schnellenberger coached team.
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Fighter of the Nightman said:
And how many of those wins came during the historically bad Groce years and the two seasons it took Underwood to dig out of that? Shit’s ancient history and irrelevant, pal. Illinois and Purdue are much healthier programs than Indiana and have been for 5+ years now. Your “brand” died a long time ago.
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Weber was 1-2
Groce was 3-6
Underwood is 6-6(4-3 vs Archie. 2-3 vs Woodson)
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Fighter of the Nightman said:
And how many of those wins came during the historically bad Groce years and the two seasons it took Underwood to dig out of that? Shit’s ancient history and irrelevant, pal. Illinois and Purdue are much healthier programs than Indiana and have been for 5+ years now. Your “brand” died a long time ago.
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6. Wanna know how many during Underwood so far? 6.
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Ihaveswag29 said:
Not to mention that schools can start directly paying players next year.. so Purdue can allocate a good amount to smith depending on the appetite. Granted that won’t mean anything if it means the rest of the team leaves and football sucks.
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I think the team will remain together minus Waddell and Berg. Hope Paint gets some pieces in the portal.
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bonefish1 said:
Our problem is when it's Smith, Loyer, Heide and Colvin on the floor, you have 4 jump shooters. Only Smith has proven his ability to either create or get his own shot (with some limited success but struggles against bigger defenders), which means you have 3 other guys hoping to get an open look. When the shots aren't falling, you need to find other ways to get buckets and we don't have that.
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One would think that NIL next season could solve the "create or get his own shot" problem..........
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Obviously Heide and Colvin are struggling right now, but my question is, for the rest of the Season, should we ever see them both on the court at the same time? They are very similar players that can contribute by defending, hitting open 3's, and rebounding. Neither is capable of ball penetration or hitting 3's consistently right now, so it hurts the offense when they are both on the court together. I think having only one of these 2 on the court at the same time will allow them to get out of their slump a lot faster and improve our offensive efficiency.

My opinion of this team is unchanged in that it is good team that is enjoyable to watch and support, but they are too flawed to be a top 15 team. If we lower our expectations a bit in this Post Edey transition year to what many programs would be thrilled with, I think everyone will consider a 20+ win Season a significant accomplishment for this program.

Not writing off this Season as we could certainly pull off a run this year if everyone gets hot, but for next year, I hope we will be looking to bring in a stud 5 and 3/4 hybrid wing in the transfer portal. I am sure that Jacobson can contribute, but counting on him to solidify our starting 5 next year coming off injury is too much of a gamble to take in what needs to be a big turnaround year. From the little I saw of him, he no doubt would have helped, but I don't think he would have been the savior. As much as Painter likes to develop talent, I think he owes it to Braden Smith to at least go after some big names that would have to be salivating over the chance to come in and play with him for a year.
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IU did not deserve to be in CFP. Great article by USA Today

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z_one said:
IU bought out UL and had the weakest schedule in the Big Ten and brought in a whole new team and coach. It worked. Won't work again. You caught your lightning in a bottle and used it up.
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z_one said:
You'll have a decent record again next year against another weak ass schedule.
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Solid job of stating that:
  1. IU Football is already toast going forward, and then
  2. Contradicting yourself to explain away IU Football doing well next year.
All in one post! Finishing by loading up on the future excuses for IU Football winning 7-10 games next season? Nothing like planning ahead.
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Purdue at Minnesota: MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD

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Boiler Buck said:
Gotta hand it to the Illinois coach. He seems to be a master at bringing in the right players.....portal or recruiting. Then after getting them to IL, putting the pieces together and making very good teams out of his pieces. Yet to see a great team, maybe this one is it??
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They were pretty darn good last year, just no chance being in Connecticut's region, although they gave them a really good battle for the first 19 minutes, then the wheels fell off. Really good team in '22 as well, but I thought the best chances were with the Dosunmu team right before that in '21......until I picked them. :)

Underwood is maybe a little polarizing and might rub some the wrong way, but he is a really good coach, IMO. Think he has double-digit conference wins the last five years.....something like that.
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bonefish1 said:
Neither of those guys are Carsen level, not many players are. There's a difference between getting hot and staying hot. Carsen stayed hot for several games in a row.
Smith is pretty hot right now and Cox got hot vs Bama, but we haven't seen any consistency from him yet. Granted, Cox is still young and learning.
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Carsen was awesome but the only way he was helping you was with his scoring. Agree that Braden is not that level of scorer but he does other things that could help win NCAAT games. Braden needs to continue to improve and become more consistent if he want to lead a March run, just as CE did his junior year.
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Purdue79fan said:
Time will tell if we do or don't? Carsen is one of my all time favorite Boilers, but Cox & Smith can get hot too.
We may not have a singular player like Carsen but may have several that prove capable when the time comes.
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Neither of those guys are Carsen level, not many players are. There's a difference between getting hot and staying hot. Carsen stayed hot for several games in a row.
Smith is pretty hot right now and Cox got hot vs Bama, but we haven't seen any consistency from him yet. Granted, Cox is still young and learning.
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Colvin and Heide yikes

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DwaynePurvis00 said:
Myles hit the left side bottom of the backboard on a wide open. Guarantee that won’t happen again. I’m sure they’re both frustrated.

We could see fletch get super amped up when heides 3 fell after hitting front of the rim. Seems the whole team is rooting for the guys to do well and they all hear the noise.
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I agree in that both are good enough shooters that I can’t imagine that they don’t work their way out of their slumps but both are really struggling. I’m not so sure that they break out of it anytime soon.

Edit: The above probably comes off more negatively than I intended. I also wouldn’t be surprised if either came out and hit 4 of 5 in the next game. Really hard to tell with shooters.
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Fighter of the Nightman said:
And how many of those wins came during the historically bad Groce years and the two seasons it took Underwood to dig out of that? Shit’s ancient history and irrelevant, pal. Illinois and Purdue are much healthier programs than Indiana and have been for 5+ years now. Your “brand” died a long time ago.
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MetMyWifeAtHarrys said:
They both looked like deer in headlights last night on both sides of the ball.

Colvin: uh, guess I'll shoot (?)

Cam giving up baseline to Garcia was so bad, such an easy fix, one that is taught at the 2nd grade level. He was just topsy turvy on D all night, just looked perpetually confused.
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Well, when you have ppl criticizing their every move and they don’t get many opportunities to score and they are in a bit of a slump, the basket gets a bit smaller. BUT I disagree that they looked like a deer in headlights.

On cams made 3, Myles passed up his GOOD shot for a GREAT shot by Cam. I actually yelled SHOOT IT MYLES at the screen before Heide hit it.

Mid way through the first half, Heide looked to attack. And while it didn’t amount to him scoring, it makes the defense have to worry about that possibility. Myles also hit a midrange by attacking.

Cam gave up 5 inches guarding the best player on Minnesota. All things considered, he did a decent job on Garcia. That spin move didn’t make him look great, but overall, he did his job—made it difficult on Garcia.
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IU did not deserve to be in CFP. Great article by USA Today

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Katscratch said:
And IU played against Notre Dame with a quarterback playing on an unrepaired torn ACL. Teams deal with this kind of stuff the best they can. Hard to believe you and others are now making excuses like that for why ND was able to beat Georgia.

IU is your rival but had a great year. The entire college knows that IU football sucked? The whole college footbal world, both media and coaches, thought IU was deserving of their coach getting national coach of the year. The nation-wide selection committee thought the team was worthy of being in College Football Playoffs.

It would be like an IU fan disparaging Purdue's Final Four run with Edey. Yes, UConn was better. But Purdue had an incredible year and earned what and where they got. Full stop. It would take some ridiculous mental gymnastics to think otherwise, and I sure don't think otherwise. Same goes for this year's IU Football team.
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IU fans did disparage Purdue's run, all you had to do was read one of their message boards. I guess you didn't because you spend all of your time here trying to validate IU's rise to football greatness. LOL. BTW there is no comparing IU buying an entire team to Edey that was a scholarship athlete recruited by Purdue and playing his entire career at Purdue. IU bought out UL and had the weakest schedule in the Big Ten and brought in a whole new team and coach. It worked. Won't work again. You caught your lightning in a bottle and used it up. You'll have a decent record again next year against another weak ass schedule, after that you'll slide back into mediocrity. If IU had played Purdue's schedule you would have had 4 losses and everyone would have talked about how much IU had improved and watched as they got waxed in a bowl game. Instead they watched you get waxed in the playoff.
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northside100 said:
Completely disagree. They couldn’t shoot to save their lives but rebounded and played defense fairly well.

Your take on giving up the baseline to Garcia is right at the 2nd grade level, but the game plan all night was to hedge to the middle and bring help on the baseline. It’s possible that Cam made the wrong assumption in thinking he’d have baseline help on that play, but he played it the way they’d been playing it all night.
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DwaynePurvis00
northside100 said:
Agree. They shot for shit but otherwise played well.
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Myles hit the left side bottom of the backboard on a wide open. Guarantee that won’t happen again. I’m sure they’re both frustrated.

We could see fletch get super amped up when heides 3 fell after hitting front of the rim. Seems the whole team is rooting for the guys to do well and they all hear the noise.
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