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I come to bury the playoffs, not to praise them

Indy_Rider
nick614 said:
With that said, Oregon did get screwed with the seeding because Ohio State, Oregon and Texas are the 3 best teams in the country after UGA lost their QB.

Oregon should have had Penn St's easy draw of playing Boise St in their first game.
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Yes, the seeding is what the issue is. Now I am fine with giving conference champs a bye, nothing wrong with making a conference championship mean something. But I would adjust the seeding so the seeding doesn't mean the ones with the bye are the top 4 seeds. Yeah, that may mean some of your top seeds play the first round, but then you get to the second round and it all makes sense and you may have Oregon then playing a Boise State, both with a first round bye. Nothing says you can't have two teams with first round byes play each other in their first game.

Or maybe just not lock in the second round match ups until the first round is done and then basically reseed after the first round. There are definitely plenty of options.
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Purdue79fan said:
We have arguably more talent than the 2018-19 elite 8 team which won a share of the Big Ten title.
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Overall collection of talent I could agree with that. We don’t haven’t a carsen type on our team but we do have a good system in place with solid players. I may be underestimating us but the blowout losses have me wondering how big ten play will go.
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I come to bury the playoffs, not to praise them

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Oregon was lucky to beat OSU the first time. OSU lost their starting TE and LT in the game, had 2 turnovers and had a terrible OPI called on Smith on the last drive and still almost won the game.

The second game played out with a more normal game script with no injuries and OSU cruised to the win. OSU was always the better team.

With that said, Oregon did get screwed with the seeding because Ohio State, Oregon and Texas are the 3 best teams in the country after UGA lost their QB.

Oregon should have had Penn St's easy draw of playing Boise St in their first game.
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Gene Keady was underpaid

DwaynePurvis00
Smokestack91 said:
Purdue Salaries (1987) - found this from the Exponent in 1987 while I was looking for something else. A decent salary back then, but basketball coaches have come a long way since. To think that Gene made less than Fred Akers and significantly less than Steven Beering! I imagine that ratio for basketball coaches:college presidents has now flipped (and then some) for major conference schools. Also, love the ad to watch the Purdue-Louisville football game at Quincey's. That was my first football game as a student. We ended up tying the Howard Schnellenberger coached team.
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Nick Saban was highly underpaid tbh. The amount of kids who enrolled after Bamas success and the money that was brought in…he should have been paid a lot more!
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DwaynePurvis00
Fighter of the Nightman said:
That’s why it’s still into pick an arbitrary cutoff, you always need context. But I’ll say this … since Underwood got his two seasons to rebuild Groce’s mess and finally got his guys in there (2019-20), Purdue and Illinois have easily been the two best programs overall, and they both appear to be in very stable and healthy spots with the coaching staffs they have in place.

If you look at the top 2 spots in the regular season standings and the top 2 in the BTT since then, you see more Purdue and Illini than anyone else, and our programs very easily have the best overall records, too.

2020 RS: WISC, MSU, UMD (all tied)
2020 BTT: N/A

2021 RS: MICH, ILL
2021 BTT: ILL, OSU

2022 RS: ILL, WISC, PUR
2022 BTT: IOWA, PUR

2023 RS: PUR, IND, NU
2023 BTT: PUR, PSU

2024 RS: PUR, ILL
2024 BTT: ILL, WISC
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Yes for sure. Not debating that!

So far, looking like Illinois is better built this year (I hate admitting it 😂)
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I come to bury the playoffs, not to praise them

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An unrelated bitch- fest to add here- I’m LOLing at Finebaum’s hypocrisy in spectacularly failing to rationalize the almighty SEC’s face plant this year….

Yo, Paulie— You relished the truth that the better teams won in those years when the SEC dominated— why the denial and cowardice now?

Despite Texas’ survival (who is nowhere near a traditional SEC school), the results this season are incontrovertible: The Big Ten is the superior league!
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I come to bury the playoffs, not to praise them

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Meh- you’ll never convince me the polls got it right in 1994, when Penn State was head and shoulders above everyone else, or when the pollsters gifted a co- championship as a lame lifetime achievement award to Tom Osborne when Michigan was easily the nation’s best team….

Beyond these and other pollster screwups— In a pure, altruistic, meritocracy-based world, you would be totally correct….

BUT

… there are waay too many boatloads and boatloads of cold hard $$$$ to be made: by both marginally-deserving Indinia- type upstarts getting a taste of the national limelight— and the gargantuan level of social media bliovating by college fans— for this Pandora’s box to ever be closed again!
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DwaynePurvis00 said:
Four Full seasons. But why stop at 5? Let’s look at 8!
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That’s why it’s silly to pick an arbitrary cutoff, you always need context. But I’ll say this … since Underwood got his two seasons to rebuild Groce’s mess and finally got his guys in there (2019-20), Purdue and Illinois have easily been the two best programs overall, and they both appear to be in very stable and healthy spots with the coaching staffs they have in place.

If you look at the top 2 spots in the regular season standings and the top 2 in the BTT since then, you see more Purdue and Illini than anyone else, and our programs very easily have the best overall records, too.

2020 RS: WISC, MSU, UMD (all tied)
2020 BTT: N/A

2021 RS: MICH, ILL
2021 BTT: ILL, OSU

2022 RS: ILL, WISC, PUR
2022 BTT: IOWA, PUR

2023 RS: PUR, IND, NU
2023 BTT: PUR, PSU

2024 RS: PUR, ILL
2024 BTT: ILL, WISC
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I come to bury the playoffs, not to praise them

Born Boiler
Oregon should be sitting home right now with the national championship trophy after going 13-0 while all the other alleged contenders were taking on losses.

That trophy was true through a good many of our lifetimes, before colleges went pro. The best team with the best record got the national title. Pretenders had to shut up because they hadn’t put up, even when given one last bowl showdown.

No way do 12 college football teams deserve a shot at the national championship after playing 12-game seasons plus conference final exams. That plain sucks. It’s more watered-down than the Titanic. Or the players’ academic transcripts.

What do you tell a team with two black eyes? Nothing. They’ve already been told twice. Anyone with more than one loss deserves no more than bowling in their wife-beater shirts. Three? Slink on to sweet home, Alabama. Pay back your NIL.

Oregon won every time out while Ohio State was gagging twice, including its big league showdown with the Ducks and a massive choke against a five-time loser, yet one rematch win by the Buckeyes over the understandably flat Ducks erased all that. Should an unbeaten team have to face an already conquered victim, a two-loss conference opponent, in the quarterfinal round of some damned playoffs? Hell no.

Want playoffs? Give the unbeaten Big Ten champion a mulligan to make amends for a single loss, fluke or not. Consolation bracket, anyone? Just like the playoffs are now, that would be only fair. And just fair.
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Schnelk
tjreese said:
I was or am hopeful that they have a new moniker on the other site, but you are correct . Hopefully, they will see this and respond. In a blink of the eye, things can change for a lot of people. So many gatherings I took for granted 30 years ago totally unaware of how special those times were and how special they were with family and friends. As I said previously even with the disagreements we share a bond for Purdue and wish for the best and if a poster posts a lot, we get an idea...a perception of that person that lets us know a little about them. Pitbull was another... :(
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Pit bull is the most recent one I think. Miss his perspective.
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