Trayce Jackson Davis
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I don't think calling TJD "too small to be a center" is a fair statement. He's bigger than Juwan, who's our current center, and bigger than most centers Archie has had historically in his program. At 6'9 230, he can absolutely play center at the college level, and play it well. I don't think anyone questions Isaiah Stewart's ability to play center due to his size, for example, and he's the same height as TJD but admittedly has about 10-15 pounds on TJD right now.
Unless all of the websites listing his height and weight are all wrong... In that case, what source am I supposed to use?
I don't think TJD is a one and done by any stretch, I think he's at least a 2 year guy. Brooks on the other hand, I think he's an absolute stud and very well could be one and done material. I think he's very underrated.
I think the reason TJD is so highly rated, is that he was expaected to hit 7 foot and got a high rating early. He just... stopped growing. At 7’00, with his current athleticism, he would have been a clear 5 star talent. Even with his current size/athleticism, he should be averaging 25 ppg in high school. Game in and game out he should be going against guys much smaller and less athletic. He had a decent game against Lalu, going against Stewart, but got abused in the paint. That is where he will be at IU. He doesn’t shoot near well enough to be a stretch, although he does move well enough. I am not saying he will be bad at the next level, I think he will be quite good actually. But, I would temper expectations, something IU fans often struggle with. TJD will be thrown right into the fire, maybe that will be the best thing for him.
TJD is averaging around 25 PPG right now, he is very talented, and definitely big enough to play center in college. His fit at the NBA level could be an issue, NBA would definitely want him to grow another inch or so (get to around 6'10) so they could comfortably fit him in at center. Not sure if he's done growing or if that's something that could happen, but that's a worry more for the NBA not necessarily college. Juwan Morgan feasts on big guys inside and he's 6'8. Height shouldn't be an issue for TJD.
Ball is presently averaging 8 pts per game. He was the #2 pick in the draft. Somehow I would expect a #2 pick guard to be a much better scorer. I doubt many consider him to be a great pick excluding daddy. Add daddy and its worse.
If anything, Ball's results may likely work against RL - bad shooters trying to play guard.
He's averaging over 25 for CG. His dad isnt 7', so not sure why you expected him to be 7'. He shot up the rankings this summer during AAU. He is adequately ranked for his skill.
Wheeler, Newman, EB, and if Carsen can’t fix his TO woes, he will be back as well. Not to mention Sasha, Williams, Hunter have showed potential. I am not worried about scoring. IT will also be a scorer, but I am not sure if he will be scoring at a high level as a true freshman. I am not worried about scoring next year. IU will be losing RL, Morgan, and Fitzner. That is going to cause a lot more problems then just the guaranteed loss of Cline. If Carsen does leave, the scoring will definitely need to come from somewhere else. Will be fun to see what the young guys can do. IT, Sasha, Wheeler, Williams, Newman all have excellent potential. Newman will likely have a big role right away. I am very excited about Purdue’s future.
When I looked TJD up on the scouting steps, he was listed at 6' 8", and 215 lb. That is good for a power forward, but not a good size for a BIG center. Truth is I agent watched any games so all I know is what I read about him in the scouting reports.
I was under the impression Morgan played a facing-the-basket position, like forward. He might be your most dominant big, but I never thought of him as a center.
Any word on Gillis? Sure would like to include this kid in on the mix too. Rough injury, but I still think he'll get his.
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/230967/trayce-jackson-davis
https://www.usab.com/basketball/players/mens/j/jackson-davis-trayce.aspx
All 3 list him at least 6'9" (measured in at 6'10" at USA camp). I think you are getting hung up on the word center. No, he isnt a traditional center, but neither is Morgan. They are both forwards that play the 5 spot.
Archie's system allows for position less basketball. We switch almost every ball screen, because our positions are interchangeable.
No word on his knees. I just don’t see how he doesn’t redshirt. No sense in rushing him back and it will all depend on his tests. They will keep it quiet no doubt. I would curious to hear what he was told by the doctors and know how the surgery went.
Most sites have him listed as 6'9 230, which is probably what he is. He's the same height as Stewart, they just played last night, and Stewart is a legit 6'9. Morgan plays center for us, he does it all to be honest. Back to the basket, face up, perimeter, he does it all. And he's mostly tasked with guarding the opponents 5.
It’s not like his horrible shooting was a secret. LA drafted him knowing damn well the kid couldn’t shoot. I just don’t think it’s something scouts care much about because they have people on the payroll that can help improve most players shooting. The difference between Ball and Langford is that Langford’s shot isn’t completely broken.
TJD and Keion are Nike kids. I would be upset if I where a Purdue fan.Lol I'm sure they bought TJD and Keion for IU too?
I'm friends with mom we grew up together. He is six eight and a half. She said right around 230...
We will see if you are right about the shot doctors. My point has always been that he is a high risk pick. As a GM on a bad team do you need that? In the case of Ball, the docs have not worked.
I’m looking at his profile picture and looking at that neck. He has a Uwe Blab neck. If his neck wasn’t so long he’d only be about 6’4”.
I feel badly for Gillis. It seems that his body cannot hold up to the stresses that are placed upon it. I hope that I am wrong but do not think that I am. I want him to have a great career.
We know from the Hummel experience that this sort of thing does not end well for the player. I hate to see it happen again.
Luckily Painter can take it slow with him. No reason to rush him, so if he can play in the future there is zero reason to jeopardize his health by rushing him. Even if it takes more than a redshirt year. I am hoping his last surgery fixed all issues and he is ready to roll, but his stock was rising big time and he should be a real good player.
' In two year's with IU's weight program TJD will be a grown man. He's got a solid frame.And he more than held his own against Stewart in the middle Saturday night..
Brooks looked the best of the three.
Brooks looked the best of the three.
This is why I’ve always thought it would be more meaningful for basketball players to be measured by two standing heights from the ground: shoulder and middle fingertip of a raised hand.
The elevation of the top of their head is largely meaningless.
It's why wing span is so big in basketball. Carsen at the combine last year was the shortest person measured, just shy of 5'11 w/o shoes, but he had a 6'6 wingspan which was comparable to guys like Allonzo Trier and DiVencenzo who are 4-5 inches taller than him.
Damn you.....
Heh...yeah, I thought of mentioning that. But I decided to leave it out.
This didn't age well.
Why bring this up now? Who gives a f#ch?
Because we like to beat on IU?? And f#ck ends with a "k"...
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As you recognized, it was a typo. But with your dirty mind, you chose the wrong letter. He meant to type, "Who gives a f#sh?"
You can fill in the missing letter. I won't because I don't want to get banned.
