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I am no fan of abortion but once that option is no longer available it will be shocking how many 12 years olds will be having babies, and/or die from back alley procedures. I am just saying be prepared for what you may be sowing. When I was a kid the racist publication I could see was Playboy and kids in grade school are watching hard core porn on their cell phones.
I’m guessing less people will die from back alley procedures than the millions of babies being murdered by abortion.

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Murkowski, Collins, Romney, Grassley, Graham all keeping it interesting.

Would Graham survive reelection if he votes since he told America to "hold the tape" about him keeping his word? He's in a tight race right now.

Also, other Republican senators are in fragile (Tillis) or interesting (Alexander & Sasse) positions that come into play.
 
I’m guessing less people will die from back alley procedures than the millions of babies being murdered by abortion.

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I understand your point but wait until you know some young girl who is pregnant. You apparently believe life starts at conception? I'm not so sure and I have no one in my family I have to worry, married or beyond their child bearing days. People who are rich enough will head to the Carribbean, Mexico or Canada like they did in the good old days.
 
Murkowski, Collins, Romney, Grassley, Graham all keeping it interesting.

Would Graham survive reelection if he votes since he told America to "hold the tape" about him keeping his word? He's in a tight race right now.

Also, other Republican senators are in fragile (Tillis) or interesting (Alexander & Sasse) positions that come into play.
If Republicans are concerned about the election being impacted, they can simply wait until after Nov. 3rd to vote.

Either way, 6-3. The oldest Republican is 72. The oldest Democrat is 82. Conservatives will control the Supreme Court for at least the next few decades. It’s a great day.
 
I understand your point but wait until you know some young girl who is pregnant. You apparently believe life starts at conception? I'm not so sure and I have no one in my family I have to worry, married or beyond their child bearing days. People who are rich enough will head to the Carribbean, Mexico or Canada like they did in the good old days.
My opinion on the mass murder of babies will not change even if someone I know makes an idiotic decision to get pregnant when they shouldn’t. Yes, life starts at conception.
 
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If Republicans are concerned about the election being impacted, they can simply wait until after Nov. 3rd to vote.

Either way, 6-3. The oldest Republican is 72. The oldest Democrat is 82. Conservatives will control the Supreme Court for at least the next few decades. It’s a great day.
Roberts isn't really a conservative, even though nominated by Bush.
 
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My opinion on the mass murder of babies will not change even if someone I know makes an idiotic decision to get pregnant when they shouldn’t. Yes, life starts at conception.
How are you on pregnancies resulting from rape?
 
If Republicans are concerned about the election being impacted, they can simply wait until after Nov. 3rd to vote.

Either way, 6-3. The oldest Republican is 72. The oldest Democrat is 82. Conservatives will control the Supreme Court for at least the next few decades. It’s a great day.

It's really simple. Republicans will either take their medicine now or later with this. Their choice.
 
I see you are predicting more democratic violence. You will probably be spot on.

Where did I say anything about violence? But I am predicting consequences with elections.


What are you suggesting?

I'm talking about Senate majority. You've made the prediction that you don't think there is any way Republicans will lose control of Senate. If Mitch McConnell says there will be a SC vote regardless before inauguration, then I will predict Democrats will take control of Senate.

Republicans likely already have most of their single issue voters in line who want a 6-3 SC who were going to vote Republican anyway no matter what, but showing the hypocrisy of Republicans and what that means for more than just the abortion issue, voter turnout can only go up for Democrats, especially with independents. You will also literally have that much more ad-play against vulnerable Republicans using their own words against them.

I wouldn't even be surprised if Bloomberg or others like him threw more money at these state campaigns calling out the Republican hypocrisy.
 
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Where did I say anything about violence? But I am predicting consequences with elections.




I'm talking about Senate majority. You've made the prediction that you don't think there is any way Republicans will lose control of Senate. If Mitch McConnell says there will be a SC vote regardless before inauguration, then I will predict Democrats will take control of Senate.

Republicans likely already have most of their single issue voters in line who want a 6-3 SC who were going to vote Republican anyway no matter what, but showing the hypocrisy of Republicans and what that means for more than just the abortion issue, voter turnout can only go up for Democrats, especially with independents. You will also literally have that much more ad-play against vulnerable Republicans using their own words against them.

I wouldn't even be surprised if Bloomberg or others like him threw more money at these state campaigns calling out the Republican hypocrisy.
Is it not hypocritical of Democrats for calling for the the vote to wait until 2021 when they argued Obama's pick should be allowed to go through and what the Republicans were doing was wrong?

Republicans aren't losing control of the Senate. There will be a conservative justice appointed to the SC prior to 2021. It won't matter regardless as Trump is going to win re-election.
 
If someone is raped, they can get Emergency Contraceptive at the hospital when they go to get the rape kit done.
I don’t think you understand conception if you feel that would always work. Face it there are no easy answers which is why I have come to the conclusion to let the woman decide if she wants to carry a child to term. Again I don’t like abortions either but it’s a woman’s right to choose and we have been dealing with this same issue for probably longer than you have been alive and Roe V. Wade should be allowed to stand as about every other country has similar laws. A lot deeper thinkers than either you or I have spent years on this issue and we are both men too that will never have to directly face the issue.
 
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I don’t think you understand conception if you feel that would always work. Face it there are no easy answers which is why I have come to the conclusion to let the woman decide if she wants to carry a child to term. Again I don’t like abortions either but it’s a woman’s right to choose and we have been dealing with this same issue for probably longer than you have been alive and Roe V. Wade should be allowed to stand as about every other country has similar laws. A lot deeper thinkers than either you or I have spent years on this issue and we are both men too that will never have to directly face the issue.
I do understand. You basically give the woman the opportunity to prevent pregnancy after having sex. If a woman chooses not to take Plan B, then it's on her. Roe V Wade will be revisited. We will see how the heavy conservative majority rules.
 
I see you are predicting more democratic violence. You will probably be spot on.
Democratic violence? Trump has said that he has the military, the police and the bikers indicating he has the upper hand if violence does occur. So the minority pa
I do understand. You basically give the woman the opportunity to prevent pregnancy after having sex. If a woman chooses not to take Plan B, then it's on her. Roe V Wade will be revisited. We will see how the heavy conservative majority rules.
Conception can occur before you could get a morning after pill which can terminate the pregnancy. I’m just asking for consistency from you.
 
Where did I say anything about violence? But I am predicting consequences with elections.




I'm talking about Senate majority. You've made the prediction that you don't think there is any way Republicans will lose control of Senate. If Mitch McConnell says there will be a SC vote regardless before inauguration, then I will predict Democrats will take control of Senate.

Republicans likely already have most of their single issue voters in line who want a 6-3 SC who were going to vote Republican anyway no matter what, but showing the hypocrisy of Republicans and what that means for more than just the abortion issue, voter turnout can only go up for Democrats, especially with independents. You will also literally have that much more ad-play against vulnerable Republicans using their own words against them.

I wouldn't even be surprised if Bloomberg or others like him threw more money at these state campaigns calling out the Republican hypocrisy.
Democrats are already predicted to take the Senate, but odds are still close on that,

Republicans will get crucified by their base if they don't at least attempt to go through process. They can't afford to wait, it would be political suicide to delay. There is no way Schumer and democrats would wait if they controlled the senate and White House.

It's very possible, the process will hurt Republicans in November.....but the do nothing strategy is guaranteed to kill any chances they had of winning in November. Rule #1 of politics.....don't upset your base right before the election. Or as George Bush Sr ("read my lips....no new taxes"). learned the hard way....its never smart to lose your base.
 
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Democratic violence? Trump has said that he has the military, the police and the bikers indicating he has the upper hand if violence does occur. So the minority pa

Conception can occur before you could get a morning after pill which can terminate the pregnancy. I’m just asking for consistency from you.
I'm fine with the use of plan B.
 
I'm fine with the use of plan B.
Since about 65% of people approve of abortion it will be interesting to see how long before we see a legislative solution, which probably should have been done years ago not the way it’s going to play out.
 
Since about 65% of people approve of abortion it will be interesting to see how long before we see a legislative solution, which probably should have been done years ago not the way it’s going to play out.
Do you support late term abortion?
 

In 2015 there were almost 6,000 late term abortions.
That may be but you stated you were opposed to all abortions. If we went to 15 weeks for a woman to decide whether she wants to get an abortion that would be better than a total ban on them. I do understand why parents would not want to carry to full term a severely handicapped child as cruel as that may be-is that why we see late term abortions? You know in the past the doctor and his patient made the decision and no one but they ever knew of the pregnancy and the wealthier people could afford to pay for the doctor’s discretion in the matter. It’s kind of stunning also to read how many movie stars back in the studio era regularly had abortions and the studio paid for them.
 
That may be but you stated you were opposed to all abortions. If we went to 15 weeks for a woman to decide whether she wants to get an abortion that would be better than a total ban on them. I do understand why parents would not want to carry to full term a severely handicapped child as cruel as that may be-is that why we see late term abortions? You know in the past the doctor and his patient made the decision and no one but they ever knew of the pregnancy and the wealthier people could afford to pay for the doctor’s discretion in the matter. It’s kind of stunning also to read how many movie stars back in the studio era regularly had abortions and the studio paid for them.
I am opposed to all abortions. I was just seeing how far you were willing to support it. Glad to see you don't support all of it.
 
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I am opposed to all abortions. I was just seeing how far you were willing to support it. Glad to see you don't support all of it.

At the end of the day, it will always be a woman's choice. She will be able to ingest whatever she feels like to end the pregnancy that could even jeopardize her own health... and it will be available to no end... and nobody would even have to know about it.

If you really want to see how bad Mexican drug smuggling and an American drug problem can look like, then yes, let's make abortion illegal. Do you really want to go down this road? I sure don't.
 
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At the end of the day, it will always be a woman's choice. She will be able to ingest whatever she feels like to end the pregnancy that could even jeopardize her own health... and it will be available to no end... and nobody would even have to know about it.

If you really want to see how bad Mexican drug smuggling and an American drug problem can look like, then yes, let's make abortion illegal. Do you really want to go down this road? I sure don't.
If a woman wants to illegally try to terminate a pregnancy, she should be charged. Additionally, I'm not in the least bit concerned about the health of a woman who would willingly murder a baby.
 


Biden says senate has an obligation to move forward with nomination process, even a few months before election. Debate settled.
Democrats ain’t going to like this. Joe said this before his communication issues currently. Going to be rough for them to smooth talk this over.
 
Oh yes, trying to completely change the topic was a helluva sick burn.
He didn’t change the topic. He went with your “setting the town on fire” narrative... and pointed out it’s the Dems who are actually doing that IRL, as the kids say.
 
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Biden says senate has an obligation to move forward with nomination process, even a few months before election. Debate settled.
You know this is nice and all but it’s Mitch who prevented Garland’s nomination from being heard for 10 months due to a presidential election but now the same man is in a rush to have a nomination heard. I know you all can see the hypocrisy even if you don’t want to admit it. I agree all nominations should be heard in a timely basis but like Napoleon the pig from Animal Farm some animals are more equal than others and apparently Napoleon was talking about the Republican Party.
 
You know this is nice and all but it’s Mitch who prevented Garland’s nomination from being heard for 10 months due to a presidential election but now the same man is in a rush to have a nomination heard. I know you all can see the hypocrisy even if you don’t want to admit it. I agree all nominations should be heard in a timely basis but like Napoleon the pig from Animal Farm some animals are more equal than others and apparently Napoleon was talking about the Republican Party.
It's politics. I would expect a Democrat controlled Senate to do everything they could to prevent a Conservative from making it onto the Supreme Court as well.
 
You know this is nice and all but it’s Mitch who prevented Garland’s nomination from being heard for 10 months due to a presidential election but now the same man is in a rush to have a nomination heard. I know you all can see the hypocrisy even if you don’t want to admit it. I agree all nominations should be heard in a timely basis but like Napoleon the pig from Animal Farm some animals are more equal than others and apparently Napoleon was talking about the Republican Party.
“Elections have consequences” - Barack Obama
 
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