or do we seem to be adding (much?) higher 'profile' football players than most of the ones we lost? From other major conferences, etc
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We’ve never beaten Alabama or Ohio State consistently for HS recruits, and likely never will.The portal has been better to us coming in than it has hurt us with guys leaving at this point.
I hope that continues to stay true moving forward! I said when it was announced, I think the portal is overall good for mid P5 teams like Purdue. We can shed the guys more easily who just don't fit the team or arent truly P5 type recruits. On the other side, we can take top guys from other programs that are buried on a depth chart but might play and develop here sooner. Plenty of transfers out there motivated to come and play at a good school and program vs. some guys only looking for a pay day!
Let the big dawgs focus on "NIL" inducement payments....we can get the guys who want to be here, want to play football and want to be team players that can be coached up!
Unfortunately, this is the world we live in. The NIL has caused issues for even the big boys. Retaining players will be like free agency every year.We’ve never beaten Alabama or Ohio State consistently for HS recruits, and likely never will.
My only concern has been getting star underclassmen poached off our roster. Like say if Caraway has 10 sacks this year… think A & M won’t make him a huge offer to come home ?
Good point. Although you'd think the guys would need to factor in the risk of playing in another system in which they wouldn't produce as much. If Caraway is a 10 sack guy this year, he probably would be projected as a pretty high draft pick the following year. Slipping from rd 1 to say rd 2 is a significant drop in $$$.We’ve never beaten Alabama or Ohio State consistently for HS recruits, and likely never will.
My only concern has been getting star underclassmen poached off our roster. Like say if Caraway has 10 sacks this year… think A & M won’t make him a huge offer to come home ?
Yeah, and hopefully this staff will have a good enough relationship with the player so we would get the “last shot” in a situation like that.Good point. Although you'd think the guys would need to factor in the risk of playing in another system in which they wouldn't produce as much. If Caraway is a 10 sack guy this year, he probably would be projected as a pretty high draft pick the following year. Slipping from rd 1 to say rd 2 is a significant drop in $$$.
Part of why guys stay is the chance to play and the system they are in. Why leave a place where you’re comfortable, have already had success only to go fight for a spot at a place that might have guys that are more talented?Good point. Although you'd think the guys would need to factor in the risk of playing in another system in which they wouldn't produce as much. If Caraway is a 10 sack guy this year, he probably would be projected as a pretty high draft pick the following year. Slipping from rd 1 to say rd 2 is a significant drop in $$$.
Paging Jack Plummer. Jack Plummer to the white courtesy phone, please.Part of why guys stay is the chance to play and the system they are in. Why leave a place where you’re comfortable, have already had success only to go fight for a spot at a place that might have guys that are more talented?
The caveat here is that it will for sure happen to us at some point just like we have poached good players from mid majors or guys struggling to get their deserved attention at a P5.
Bump.My only concern has been getting star underclassmen poached off our roster. Like say if Caraway has 10 sacks this year… think A & M won’t make him a huge offer to come home ?
Hate the Big Ten Ted Podcast, he is such a tool. But Ted thinks Dillon T will be poached next year if he has another rock solid season.We’ve never beaten Alabama or Ohio State consistently for HS recruits, and likely never will.
My only concern has been getting star underclassmen poached off our roster. Like say if Caraway has 10 sacks this year… think A & M won’t make him a huge offer to come home ?
NFL scouts wants to see if Nic had success because of the scheme, or if he is a stud. If he can replicate the production at A&M that would answer those questions and improve the draft stock. If his production slips, his draft stock slips, but he got paid anyway.Part of why guys stay is the chance to play and the system they are in. Why leave a place where you’re comfortable, have already had success only to go fight for a spot at a place that might have guys that are more talented?
The caveat here is that it will for sure happen to us at some point just like we have poached good players from mid majors or guys struggling to get their deserved attention at a P5.
Dillon’s family also has a couple successful companies locally and he may not be as influenced by cash as much.Hate the Big Ten Ted Podcast, he is such a tool. But Ted thinks Dillon T will be poached next year if he has another rock solid season.
My take is that Dillon has family ties to Purdue, and Ted does not know what he is talking about. But then when a program throws tons of money at him, you never know.
I hope he has one or two solid years for us (surpass Stu Schweikert production) and go to the NFL instead of leave Purdue for another place to be a one year rental.
McCord left because Day told him he was going to look elsewhere for a starter. Which he was successful at. Howard is a big upgrade.McChord left OSU saying it was a business decision on both his part and OSU. In other words it had nothing to do with playing time or winning a championship. He basically wanted more money than OSU was willing to give him!
Unfortunately we will need to pay the man at some point but will do so with communication with the Thieneman family.Hate the Big Ten Ted Podcast, he is such a tool. But Ted thinks Dillon T will be poached next year if he has another rock solid season.
My take is that Dillon has family ties to Purdue, and Ted does not know what he is talking about. But then when a program throws tons of money at him, you never know.
I hope he has one or two solid years for us (surpass Stu Schweikert production) and go to the NFL instead of leave Purdue for another place to be a one year rental.
You’re kidding, you don’t think Burks was that great? He was our only playmaker at WR! And what about Sheffield? And we lose our best options to step up at WR with Rice, ARY, and Canion gone. Our entire depth chart at WR just left and you think we are better off? We have Dixon-Veal who had 142 yards and Tibbs who had 42 yards coming back…We definitely have brought in better players than what we lost. Looking back, it’s not like the players we lost except for Scrouton were that great to begin with. The new philosophy seems to be if I’m a 4/5 star player and I didn’t play my freshman year, I’m going to enter the portal. What is not being talked about much is that when you look at Alabama OSU much and all the rest, the vast majority of the 4/5 star players that left didn’t play as a freshman. And their teams all recruited another 4/5 star player at their same position. They basically saw they had no future. Much like our basketball team lost two guards when we recruited Loyer and smith.
Players look for 3 things, money, a chance to play and a championship. If your school cannot offer those three things, the player will find one that can. McChord left OSU saying it was a business decision on both his part and OSU. In other words it had nothing to do with playing time or winning a championship. He basically wanted more money than OSU was willing to give him!
It’s no longer about getting an education!
I wondered if the team suffered because we were giving seniority to older players rather than playing our youngsters earlier on in the season.You’re kidding, you don’t think Burks was that great? He was our only playmaker at WR! And what about Sheffield? And we lose our best options to step up at WR with Rice, ARY, and Canion gone. Our entire depth chart at WR just left and you think we are better off? We have Dixon-Veal who had 142 yards and Tibbs who had 42 yards coming back…
We lost our top TE too, I know he wasn’t the same but he was the best we had. I know some will argue Klare has more upside but he’s coming off a bad injury.
On defense losing Scourton, Sydnor, Kpaka, and Brothers hurts our front 7 big time. The 3 guys we gained in the front 7 are not close to matching up with what we lost. Sillah has not been the same since his injury and has 15 tackles the past 2 seasons. CJ Madden has 3 tackles his first 2 years. And Dinkins never amounted to much at Kentucky. And the Ojata guy isn’t a big ten starting player. All depth pieces. Green has potential at DB but we will likely be counting on a lot of true freshmen to contribute.
I’d say we improved at one position group, OL which I know is important to you but I completely disagree we improved overall in the transfer portal. We lost our only 2 AP all big ten first or second team players and have not had anyone commit that is close to that level. Just roster plugs.
I like our young guys. But they are young. We will need to add some veterans at WR.Our roster at WR is super thin.... If you think we were bad at that position last year just wait. We have in no way made up for our WR losses in the portal. It will be hard to run an Air Raid offense with no air.
Which is ironic about our WR depth and how it has changed, because it was during the Moore/Bell years that people kept saying that we had too many receivers. There was only 1 football to go around.Our roster at WR is super thin.... If you think we were bad at that position last year just wait. We have in no way made up for our WR losses in the portal. It will be hard to run an Air Raid offense with no air.
Which young guys would that be?I like our young guys. But they are young. We will need to add some veterans at WR.
Galloway (6’5), Hamilton (6’4), Rigby (6’4), Harris (6’2), Watson (5’8)Which young guys would that be?
So....all of the guys who are untested and have no college experience at all. That will work well.Galloway (6’5), Hamilton (6’4), Rigby (6’4), Harris (6’2), Watson (5’8)
Well, we did have too many, because Moore/Bell/Jones got 90% of targets anyway. Why have 12 WR when you're only throwing to your studs? Brohm also loved the TE.Which is ironic about our WR depth and how it has changed, because it was during the Moore/Bell years that people kept saying that we had too many receivers. There was only 1 football to go around.
So…. You must have missed the news about the two 4* GA WR Transfers. along with our 4* UCLA WR transfer.So....all of the guys who are untested and have no college experience at all. That will work well.
Nostradamus of the year award. (He posted that in May...)We’ve never beaten Alabama or Ohio State consistently for HS recruits, and likely never will.
My only concern has been getting star underclassmen poached off our roster. Like say if Caraway has 10 sacks this year… think A & M won’t make him a huge offer to come home ?
That might work well. you don't know either.So....all of the guys who are untested and have no college experience at all. That will work well.
Really comes down to this.So…. You must have missed the news about the two 4* GA WR Transfers. along with our 4* UCLA WR transfer.
Think we are in good shape. And better loaded than the transfers we lost.
remind me again, was Burks a 4* recruit out of high school or 3*? Yeah. I think it will work out well.
They call this "No-Moneyball". Movie should be coming out this summer.Painter has reconfigured his entire recruiting strategy,
bump.Our roster at WR is super thin.... If you think we were bad at that position last year just wait. We have in no way made up for our WR losses in the portal. It will be hard to run an Air Raid offense with no air.
I'll take the two guys with National Championship rings that just transfered in, thank you very much.Our roster at WR is super thin.... If you think we were bad at that position last year just wait. We have in no way made up for our WR losses in the portal. It will be hard to run an Air Raid offense with no air.
The CJs (Smith and Madden) are studs. Smith will probably be the fastest guy we’ve seen on the field here in WL. Madden is a good good football player but was edged out at UGa with guys with more athletic upside. That’s less of a big deal in the BIG than SEC. He’s a day 1 starter in one of the OLb spots for sure.I'll take the two guys with National Championship rings that just transfered in, thank you very much.
Did they play?I'll take the two guys with National Championship rings that just transfered in, thank you very much.
College is about setting up your future. To get a better job and build a better life. Yes getting an education is important, but the primary purpose of college is for your future career.We definitely have brought in better players than what we lost. Looking back, it’s not like the players we lost except for Scrouton were that great to begin with. The new philosophy seems to be if I’m a 4/5 star player and I didn’t play my freshman year, I’m going to enter the portal. What is not being talked about much is that when you look at Alabama OSU much and all the rest, the vast majority of the 4/5 star players that left didn’t play as a freshman. And their teams all recruited another 4/5 star player at their same position. They basically saw they had no future. Much like our basketball team lost two guards when we recruited Loyer and smith.
Players look for 3 things, money, a chance to play and a championship. If your school cannot offer those three things, the player will find one that can. McChord left OSU saying it was a business decision on both his part and OSU. In other words it had nothing to do with playing time or winning a championship. He basically wanted more money than OSU was willing to give him!
It’s no longer about getting an education!
I mean we were bad. I have no idea if we have made up for it, neither do you. I do know if we are going to make up for it, getting three former 4 star players from top schools transferring in is the only way it could happen.Our roster at WR is super thin.... If you think we were bad at that position last year just wait. We have in no way made up for our WR losses in the portal. It will be hard to run an Air Raid offense with no air.
Georgia would beat us by 85. Considering what Auburn and LSU have already done. I still remember Burks being carted off because he tried to catch a pass over their backup DB. It was incomplete.The CJs (Smith and Madden) are studs. Smith will probably be the fastest guy we’ve seen on the field here in WL. Madden is a good good football player but was edged out at UGa with guys with more athletic upside. That’s less of a big deal in the BIG than SEC. He’s a day 1 starter in one of the OLb spots for sure.
Green has major upside as a DB but more safety skills IMO than what we need (lock down corner). Still probably an upgrade over what we had last year at CB over probably anybody but Wilson. Morisette…I’m not that big of a fan of but still feel he can be at least a TJ Sheffield level of productive.
Encouraging signs…I’ll take 4, former top 300 guys from UGA every year, please.