Iran’s Response

[BuilderBob6]

If it was just another terrorist, you'd have the same reaction because it was Trump. You sound disappointed that he was killed, and that you'd be happier if he hadn't been

And you would be wrong, as usual. You people can't separate the act from the actor. It's easier for you to play the trump victim card than listen to arguments against the results of his actions. It's easier for you to claim the never trumpers are mourning the killing of a terrorist than deal with the legitimate questions surrounding it. Gr8 is saying the same thing .......over and over. You aren't listening to him either.
This is an honest to goodness foreign policy crisis for this admin. I don't think Trump or any of his yes men are ready for it. We'll see.

 

[BuilderBob6]

Ah yes...another career Dem politician. Should we expect anything of value from his mouth?

Yep, you should only consider opinions that agree with your own and ignore others based on party affiliation or sources. That is true, independent thinking.

 

[ComradeRedBoilermaker]

I wasn’t expecting much coming into this thread, and even still the trump supporters on this board managed to disappoint.

the United States under this administration is a rogue state

 

[ComradeRedBoilermaker]

Baby boomers brains have been completely melted by Fox News. This thread is wild

 

[70boiler]

I wasn’t expecting much coming into this thread, and even still the trump supporters on this board managed to disappoint.

the United States under this administration is a rogue state

The base problem is the inability to know rogue state status inasmuch as there has been no factual support for the administration's actions ( as if that is a surprise ), coupled with its relentless use of false assertions.
My own suspicion, given what seems to be a "softening" of administration claims of the need for immediate action to thwart a currently under active implementation specific attack or attacks, is that this was more of a "he was a bad person, had done terrible things, and certainly bad things would happen again" situation than a prophylactic action to prevent a truly imminent specific plan of action

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

I wasn’t expecting much coming into this thread, and even still the trump supporters on this board managed to disappoint.

the United States under this administration is a rogue state

how many hezbollah apologists can we get in one thread?

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

The base problem is the inability to know rogue state status inasmuch as there has been no factual support for the administration's actions ( as if that is a surprise ), coupled with its relentless use of false assertions.
My own suspicion, given what seems to be a "softening" of administration claims of the need for immediate action to thwart a currently under active implementation specific attack or attacks, is that this was more of a "he was a bad person, had done terrible things, and certainly bad things would happen again" situation than a prophylactic action to prevent a truly imminent specific plan of action

he orchestrated the attack on our embassy. this isnt rocket science.

 

[ComradeRedBoilermaker]

how many hezbollah apologists can we get in one thread?

I’m a hezbollah apologist for thinking escalating an armed conflict to the brink of war with Iran is a bad idea?

Absolutely delusional. I’m for withdrawing American troops from the Middle East, something we should have done a decade ago

 

[70boiler]

he orchestrated the attack on our embassy. this isnt rocket science.

Which had been terminated 2 days prior, no? Post not preparatory action. Perhaps you should reread me earlier post that you quoted.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

I’m a hezbollah apologist for thinking escalating an armed conflict to the brink of war with Iran is a bad idea?

Absolutely delusional. I’m for withdrawing American troops from the Middle East, something we should have done a decade ago

weve been doing that. hezbollah attacked kirkuk. hezbollah attacked the embassy. we aren't delivering planes full of cash anymore. new management.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

Which had been terminated 2 days prior, no? Post not preparatory action. Perhaps you should reread me earlier post that you quoted.

he also attacked kirkuk. he basically runs hezbollah. wtf go read something. you guys are ignorant of everything pre 2016.

 

[ComradeRedBoilermaker]

weve been doing that. hezbollah attacked kirkuk. hezbollah attacked the embassy. we aren't delivering planes full of cash anymore. new management.

At no point did the US withdraw all of its troops from a variety of nations in the Middle East in the last 10 years. They are still there. And on top of that, we are still paying tens of millions of dollars a month to various Islamic extremist groups in Iraq and Syria to fight proxy conflicts for us. That’s the stuff that has to stop if you actually care about getting American lives out of harms way

 

[70boiler]

he also attacked kirkuk. he basically runs hezbollah. wtf go read something. you guys are ignorant of everything pre 2016.

Yes, that has as much relevance to the Administration's claimed basis for its actions as that the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and the Viet Cong attacked the US Embassy in Saigon to initiate the Tet offensive.
Your assertion that everyone but Trump supporters is ignorant about history is laughable and indefensible.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

At no point did the US withdraw all of its troops from a variety of nations in the Middle East in the last 10 years. They are still there. And on top of that, we are still paying tens of millions of dollars a month to various Islamic extremist groups in Iraq and Syria to fight proxy conflicts for us. That’s the stuff that has to stop if you actually care about getting American lives out of harms way

Yes, that has as much relevance to the Administration's claimed basis for its actions as that the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and the Viet Cong attacked the US Embassy in Saigon to initiate the Tet offensive.
Your assertion that everyone but Trump supporters is ignorant about history is laughable and indefensible.

he staged at least 2 attacks at the end of december 2019. imbeciles.

 

[70boiler]

he staged at least 2 attacks at the end of december 2019. imbeciles.

What was the Administration's explanation for its actions?

 

[70boiler]

he staged at least 2 attacks at the end of december 2019. imbeciles.

And F### you and your name calling. I can assure you my IQ is above 50. Even if limited.

 

[glidresquirrel]

I really hope Trump knows what he is doing. I hope this decision to kill Soleimani was better thought through than his decision to withdraw from Syria. I see Trump as a man who really doesn’t want to think to deeply about long term strategy. He likes simple solutions to very complex problems. Hopefully he is right this time.

I see you as a supporter of Obama and his weak ass response to everything. Stick your big comic chin out there and try to be a tough guy Bill

 

[indy35]

he staged at least 2 attacks at the end of december 2019. imbeciles.

You actually thought Schiff was trying to get naked pictures of Trump. Maybe you shouldn’t call anyone an imbecile, your track record isn’t so good.

 

[SDBoiler1]

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Chris Murphy is complete buffoon. I know - I live in the state he supposedly represents. Murphy has been carrying the water for Iran in Congress for years. Ever wonder why?

 

[SDBoiler1]

And you would be wrong, as usual. You people can't separate the act from the actor. It's easier for you to play the trump victim card than listen to arguments against the results of his actions. It's easier for you to claim the never trumpers are mourning the killing of a terrorist than deal with the legitimate questions surrounding it. Gr8 is saying the same thing .......over and over. You aren't listening to him either.
This is an honest to goodness foreign policy crisis for this admin. I don't think Trump or any of his yes men are ready for it. We'll see.

Crisis? Based on what? Rhetoric from Iran? FFS....

 

[indy35]

Crisis? Based on what? Rhetoric from Iran? FFS....

Jesus Christ, the level of ignorance that it takes to make your arguments. No crisis, everything is fine, Trump knows exactly what he’s doing.

 

[BuilderBob6]

Crisis? Based on what? Rhetoric from Iran? FFS....

You're telling me this isn't a crisis?

 

[70boiler]

Jesus Christ, the level of ignorance that it takes to make your arguments. No crisis, everything is fine, Trump knows exactly what he’s doing.

You're telling me this isn't a crisis?

I suspect this comment will lost on some of our posters.
Today Iran indicated that, as the result of the situation, it was abrogating its continued involvement with limitations under the remainder of the Nuclear Arms Agreement. That is indicative that it will expand its nuclear program including expanding weapons grade enrichment processes. That obviously is indicative of its intent to become a nuclear armed nation, and it is a generally accepted proposition that it has the technical abilities and know how to achieve that. I would believe that Israel may very well have such a significantly concerned view of that scenario to react in a significant, violent and aggressive military fashion in attempts to defend itself. I would also believe that any such action by Israel will be met with a similarly significant, violent and military response by Iran.
Crisis? Nah, nothing to see here, just move along now, son!!!

 

[BuilderBob6]

Chris Murphy is complete buffoon. I know - I live in the state he supposedly represents. Murphy has been carrying the water for Iran in Congress for years. Ever wonder why?

First off, you haven't given any proof that he's been carrying the water. That means the second question is premature.
He's a dem.........so i would expect you to trash him. Why don't you post some links to back up your point?
Have trump's experienced advisors not quit? Did he not assassinate the #2 leader in a foreign country? Did he not announce plans to target 52 Iranian targets, including cultural sites where civilians will be, if Iran responds with an attack?

 

[BuilderBob6]

I suspect this comment will lost on some of our posters.
Today Iran indicated that, as the result of the situation, it was abrogating its continued involvement with limitations under the remainder of the Nuclear Arms Agreement. That is indicative that it will expand its nuclear program including expanding weapons grade enrichment processes. That obviously is indicative of its intent to become a nuclear armed nation, and it is a generally accepted proposition that it has the technical abilities and know how to achieve that. I would believe that Israel may very well have such a significantly concerned view of that scenario to react in a significant, violent and aggressive military fashion in attempts to defend itself. I would also believe that any such action by Israel will be met with a similarly significant, violent and military response by Iran.
Crisis? Nah, nothing to see here, just move along now, son!!!

Not to mention we have now stopped the fight against ISIS (which is still around, despite trump's proclamations of 100% defeat) because our forces will now have to protect our assets from the Iranian militias and proxy forces.
And despite the statements that the Iranians are celebrating the general's death, videos of angry Iranian gatherings are everywhere to see. These types of events tend to unite the country, not divide it as the admin desires.

 

[Bethboilerfan]

Even Tucker Carlson has come out against this craziness: https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-iran-war-trump-soleimani-1480413

And Pompeo is lamenting lack of European support: https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pompeo-solemeini-killing-baghdad-iran-1480395

Duh -- what did he expect when Trump has done nothing but criticize and attack our allies.

 

[70boiler]

...
And Pompeo is lamenting lack of European support: https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pompeo-solemeini-killing-baghdad-iran-1480395

Duh -- what did he expect when Trump has done nothing but criticize and attack our allies.

Or perhaps moreso failed to give them any heads up that he was going to launch an action putting them in clear risk of retribution as a result.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

And F### you and your name calling. I can assure you my IQ is above 50. Even if limited.

then quit repeating the same inane ramblings

 

[70boiler]

then quit repeating the same inane ramblings

It would appear that even repetition is insufficient for you to understand much.
Also, I would like to repeat my earlier question to you

What was the Administration's explanation for its actions?

 

[SDBoiler1]

You're telling me this isn't a crisis?

What exactly has happened on the Iran side so far since this strike? Do you honestly think the US is on the verge of a full-scale war with Iran?

They withdrew from a nuke deal they had been violating all along? They had no intention of upholding their end of the deal Obama made with them. They continued to play the Europeans trying to get sanctions relief from the likes of France. France has been doing business with the Iranians, including nuclear capability deals, for years.

 

[Mr_Scott]

i am pro death

I love hardass neocons like you. What do you know about death and killing ? People who work with it really want to know...

 

[SDBoiler1]

I suspect this comment will lost on some of our posters.
Today Iran indicated that, as the result of the situation, it was abrogating its continued involvement with limitations under the remainder of the Nuclear Arms Agreement. That is indicative that it will expand its nuclear program including expanding weapons grade enrichment processes. That obviously is indicative of its intent to become a nuclear armed nation, and it is a generally accepted proposition that it has the technical abilities and know how to achieve that. I would believe that Israel may very well have such a significantly concerned view of that scenario to react in a significant, violent and aggressive military fashion in attempts to defend itself. I would also believe that any such action by Israel will be met with a similarly significant, violent and military response by Iran.
Crisis? Nah, nothing to see here, just move along now, son!!!

Again, Iran never had any intention of upholding the nuke deal Obama helped broker. They've been doing nuke development all along.

 

[Bill4411]

I see you as a supporter of Obama and his weak ass response to everything. Stick your big comic chin out there and try to be a tough guy Bill

You really are a terrible human being and when you die no one will care will they?

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

I love hardass neocons like you. What do you know about death and killing ? People who work with it really want to know...

more than you will ever know. jtapic

 

[Mr_Scott]

Again, Iran never had any intention of upholding the nuke deal Obama helped broker. They've been doing nuke development all along.

Link ? Because Iran agreed to a multi national agreement. Iran would allow inspections and be able to trade with said nation's.

https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-nuclear-deal-explained

 

[70boiler]

Again, Iran never had any intention of upholding the nuke deal Obama helped broker. They've been doing nuke development all along.

Well, I'm sure that you have some evidence to rebut the position of the IAEA who was the international monitoring agency that they were in compliance, don't you?

 

[SDBoiler1]

First off, you haven't given any proof that he's been carrying the water. That means the second question is premature.
He's a dem.........so i would expect you to trash him. Why don't you post some links to back up your point?
Have trump's experienced advisors not quit? Did he not assassinate the #2 leader in a foreign country? Did he not announce plans to target 52 Iranian targets, including cultural sites where civilians will be, if Iran responds with an attack?

Ok.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...c-council-the-iranian-regimes-us-lobby-house/

 

[SDBoiler1]

Link ? Because Iran agreed to a multi national agreement. Iran would allow inspections and be able to trade with said nation's.

https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-nuclear-deal-explained

Except that Iran blocked a number of their sites from being inspected by International agencies, even after the deal was done under Obama.

 

[Mr_Scott]

Except that Iran blocked a number of their sites from being inspected by International agencies, even after the deal was done under Obama.

But they were actually in compliance. And it was an actual deal. A multi nation deal that bought Iran to the world table. A starting point. What did the master deal maker do ?

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2019-04/news/iaea-says-iran-abiding-nuclear-deal

 

[70boiler]

Ok.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...c-council-the-iranian-regimes-us-lobby-house/

Ah... quite impressive sourcing