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Would you guys like to have Butch Jones?

purduehayseed said:
sorry, but butchie passed on us so he could fark you guys up.

mission accomplished!
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Remember this qoute. This could be currently what Miles and Fleck are doing to Purdue, just playing us against a better option. Please let plan B or C be a guy like Calhoun or Rhule or Brohm. all better options than just settling for a safe hire or Purdue type guy like Spack
 
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Cleanface said:
No thanks.

Butch is karma for you rednecks running off Cuonzo.

Go to hell, assVol! You'll find no sympathy here!!
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I used to live in Knoxville and am pretty up to date with UT athletics. UT did not run off Martin like most Boiler fans think. The administration wanted to keep him and were pretty surprised when he left. Martin was never beloved by Tennessee fans because a) the program took a noticeable dip under Martin compared to his predecessor Bruce Pearl and b) Pearl has a very outgoing personality and was very vocal about his love for Knoxville and UT, while Martin has a much more reserved personality and never seemed to be an outspoken, passionate advocate for UT compared to Pearl.

As for Butch Jones, I would be shocked if he is fired. UT has a retiring lame duck AD, very similar to our last 6 months with Burke and no one at UT trusts him to hire the next coach. Most people think UT would be unable to attract a quality coach without that coach knowing who the next AD will be. I also don't think Butch we leave UT this year - he will get a huge buyout if he hangs around 1 more season. He is goofy but not stupid.
 
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Martin was our basketball version of Charley Strong and Texas football. Never liked the fans and lost with very good talent.
 
Lol at Purdue fans acting like they wouldn't want Butch. You guys would build a statue for him if he had the same success at Purdue that he has had at UT already.
 
RUN CMG said:
Lol at Purdue fans acting like they wouldn't want Butch. You guys would build a statue for him if he had the same success at Purdue that he has had at UT already.
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We don't want Jones because he played our AD like a cheap fiddle last go round, not because his record at UT is not good enough for us. Of course we would gladly take a coach with an 8-4 record, just not one who has screwed us in the past.
 
BoilerBulldog said:
Care to elaborate?
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You're a smart poster, you know exactly what I'm talking about - you are implying they got let go because they are both black. I don't believe that is a factor in either case. Strong had the best job in the country and could barely make a bowl game. Martin didn't get fired and left on his own, but was never beloved by the fans not because of his race but because of his team's performance and his personality. If you followed either program a little bit, you would know that.

Its kind of like saying Purdue fans wanted Hazell gone because of his race not his performance.
 
Cevol03 said:
You're a smart poster, you know exactly what I'm talking about - you are implying they got let go because they are both black. I don't believe that is a factor in either case. Strong had the best job in the country and could barely make a bowl game. Martin didn't get fired and left on his own, but was never beloved by the fans not because of his face but because of his team's performance and his personality. If you followed either program a little bit, you would know that.

Its kind of like saying Purdue fans wanted Hazell gone because of his race not his performance.
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Wow. That's a lot of inference.

My point is midwestern coaches not succeeding in the south.

Now do I think an African American coach in TN might not ever get the benefit of the doubt? Interesting question. How many African American coaches has TN had in major sports? There's probably not enough to make any kind of valid determination. But the lack of a statistic sample probably raises other questions.

For the record, Strong absolutely should've been fired. I'm not convinced Martin got a fair shake.
 
BoilerBulldog said:
Wow. That's a lot of inference.

My point is midwestern coaches not succeeding in the south.

Now do I think an African American coach in TN might not ever get the benefit of the doubt? Interesting question. How many African American coaches has TN had in major sports? There's probably not enough to make any kind of valid determination. But the lack of a statistic sample probably raises other questions.

For the record, Strong absolutely should've been fired. I'm not convinced Martin got a fair shake.
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Hey, mama didn't raise a fool. When you said they both had one thing in common, you were not talking about them being midwesterners. That is laughable.

Also, Charlie Strong was born and raised in Arkansas and spent most of his career in the SEC.
 
Cevol03 said:
Hey, mama didn't raise a fool. When you said they both had one thing in common, you were not talking about them being midwesterners. That is laughable.

Also, Charlie Strong was born and raised in Arkansas and spent most of his career in the SEC.
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I will just leave it at this..I think Martin is in a much better place at Cal.
 
Martin didnt get Tennessee in trouble with the NCAAs either.And I really enjoyed watching Purdue stomping the hell out of Pearls Auburn team last week.
 
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