With all due respect to CS we already have Taylor
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I agree. From what I've seen of Swanigan, I have to assume it was his raw size and strength that allowed him to dominate in HS, more than his skills or quickness. I will be surprised if he is a world beater his freshman year.
And Taylor's in a similar boat except Taylor instead has height & quickness, but needs to work on bulk and skills. Since we already have size and strength in Haas, and we have size and skill (and hopefully strength next year finally) in AJ, I'm happy that we also have Taylor's quickness coming onboard this next season. Taylor may actually complement AJ/Isaac better than Swanigan would have.
Does anyone know if Taylor got the medical redshirt so that he still has 4 full years of eligibility?
And Taylor's in a similar boat except Taylor instead has height & quickness, but needs to work on bulk and skills. Since we already have size and strength in Haas, and we have size and skill (and hopefully strength next year finally) in AJ, I'm happy that we also have Taylor's quickness coming onboard this next season. Taylor may actually complement AJ/Isaac better than Swanigan would have.
Does anyone know if Taylor got the medical redshirt so that he still has 4 full years of eligibility?
I like Taylor and his potential but you can't seriously think Swanigan isn't better right now and next year. If he is, Purdue is probably top 15 material nationally.
As a high school senior and college freshman he(Taylor) has not been ready to play-I hope he isn't another Simpson.
hmmmm I disagree......Taylor is going to shock us all not in the know next year.....
Saw him work out in person....gazelle with hops and muscle and competitive.....kids a winner.
He is better than CS and that is why CS took the M$U spot taking Dawson's spot.
Believe in what we have at Purdue because next few years will be very special.
Saw him work out in person....gazelle with hops and muscle and competitive.....kids a winner.
He is better than CS and that is why CS took the M$U spot taking Dawson's spot.
Believe in what we have at Purdue because next few years will be very special.
great hands, great vision, long arms, long legs, great rebounding and rim protecting.
Ok feet but methodical and will need to grow into instinctive aggressive feet instead of catch think and react feet.
Explosive around the rim and depending on responsibility and role next year you will see him grow quick.
J. Taylor next year will get 12 min a game and be amazing.
J. Taylor his sophomore season will be starting at the 4 and be getting major minutes and be a big contributor.
I love this kid and his potential.
Once he catches up to the speed of the game half way thru this next season...he wont be stoppable around the rim.
I will say right now he has more dunks than anyone his sophomore season thru graduating than anyone in Purdue history.
Kid loves Purdue and will do very well.
Sharpie.......as Seth Davis says...which to be honest makes me gag and puke because he is a dookie.
Boiler up folks we are in for a good ride of some Championship level teams and Taylor will be a big reason.
Ok feet but methodical and will need to grow into instinctive aggressive feet instead of catch think and react feet.
Explosive around the rim and depending on responsibility and role next year you will see him grow quick.
J. Taylor next year will get 12 min a game and be amazing.
J. Taylor his sophomore season will be starting at the 4 and be getting major minutes and be a big contributor.
I love this kid and his potential.
Once he catches up to the speed of the game half way thru this next season...he wont be stoppable around the rim.
I will say right now he has more dunks than anyone his sophomore season thru graduating than anyone in Purdue history.
Kid loves Purdue and will do very well.
Sharpie.......as Seth Davis says...which to be honest makes me gag and puke because he is a dookie.
Boiler up folks we are in for a good ride of some Championship level teams and Taylor will be a big reason.
I also like the 2nd unit Basil and Taylor getting out in transition next season is something we lacked this year.
I do not like the methodical feet analysis...it should be naturally aggressive. It is a natural ability...not learned. I hope you are right...but you might be placing his ceiling too high.
Sorry, not landing Swanigan is a blow. No matter how hard we try to spin it into something it's not.....we all wanted the kid. It's not about MSU cheating, it's not about some player we have is better...it's a hit to the program. Trust me, it's ok to admit it hurts. Just face it.....we have to move on, but this one stings a bit as I really thought we had a shot. Turns out maybe we didn't.
Yes you are right...sorry bad description.
Crazy thing is his feet flow with no issues on defense.....just on offense when he gets around the rim he seems to hesitate.
Could be him just getting a solid base to jump...could be lingering mental stuff from his injury in HS.
I may be projecting his ceiling to high, but I guess I am just saying I love his potential.
I love that he loves being at Purdue.
He will do well and the fans will love his effort.
Great mild mannered personality too......true Boilermaker.
Crazy thing is his feet flow with no issues on defense.....just on offense when he gets around the rim he seems to hesitate.
Could be him just getting a solid base to jump...could be lingering mental stuff from his injury in HS.
I may be projecting his ceiling to high, but I guess I am just saying I love his potential.
I love that he loves being at Purdue.
He will do well and the fans will love his effort.
Great mild mannered personality too......true Boilermaker.
We will certainly find out. Taylor, prior to his injury in hs, was a fairly well regarded player.
Deuce....one simple question....How is it a "Blow" to the program? Every coach, including Cal and K and Bo has misses. When they do, is that a blow to their program or do they move on?
Personally, I don't think missing Swanigan is any more devastating than any other coach missing on any other player.
Remember, two days ago, Zo was landing the class of the century, and by missing Swanigan himself, he'll be out of a job in a year.
Caleb has "HANDLERS" who are pushing him where THEY want him to go. I'm glad Painter doesn't have to deal with that kind of situation.
I don't always agree with everything you post, but I agree with 95% of this one, all but the last sentence. Why anyone would believe Purdue didn't have a shot is beyond me. I think people too often forget a kid can only pick one school, it's not like he can divide his time. Does 2nd place suck? Yeah, of course. But that doesn't mean the kid's list of finalist schools/teams were junk and/or didn't have a chance of getting him. They were finalists for a reason, but in the end, a kid must narrow down his choice to only 1, and there are arguably dozens of factors that contribute to that. So I agree it was a tough blow for Purdue to come so close, but to say there was never a shot is such a defeatist way of looking at it.
So Swanigan was scared off by Taylor? What are you talking about?
Your description (and others I've read) about Taylor make him sound a lot like Lawson. Hopefully he turns out better than that, but Painters track record with low ranked or 3 star bigs is not good (Tacos, Bade, Simpson, Hale, Lawson).
The reason it's a blow moreso to us than the other coaches is they land other Blue Chippers, we don't. He was the only big player we've had a legit shot at in a while. Those other programs land other Blue Chip....not just once a decade. I wanted this kid. Not just for getting him but hoping to build momentum. Every time we swing and miss it's another chance Painter lost to show everyone what he can do with a top prospect. You can't spin this into anything but a blow. Sorry, I stand by my thoughts.
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I don't always agree with everything you post, but I agree with 95% of this one, all but the last sentence. Why anyone would believe Purdue didn't have a shot is beyond me. I think people too often forget a kid can only pick one school, it's not like he can divide his time. Does 2nd place suck? Yeah, of course. But that doesn't mean the kid's list of finalist schools/teams were junk and/or didn't have a chance of getting him. They were finalists for a reason, but in the end, a kid must narrow down his choice to only 1, and there are arguably dozens of factors that contribute to that. So I agree it was a tough blow for Purdue to come so close, but to say there was never a shot is such a defeatist way of looking at it.
Yeah, I think I regret that comment. I believe we had a shot....a real shot.
This post was edited on 4/11 11:46 AM by boiler-deuce
Swanigan did not go to msu because he was afraid of Taylor. That is so ridiculous I hope you were kidding
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I watched several videos of each player. Of course these are highlight reels, and it's hard to tell from my recliner how consistent each of them are, but what I see is this...
Swanigan, in my opinion, likely dominated in HS because he's bigger, wider, stronger, etc. He has some skills, but as shown in the McD game, he's not that dominant against higher caliber defenders. I think freshman year at least he will be a good rebounder, and he will contribute otherwise, but he will have some struggles on offense and defense against D1 competition with much quicker hands and feet than he's used to his opponents having. Expect turnovers.
Taylor is obviously not a wide body like Biggie, but he is longer and faster with better hops & shot blocking. He can be that big we need who runs the floor like JJ used to do. Someone compared him to Lawson, and I think that is way off. Lawson was a one trick pony, and Taylor is already more skilled & I'm confident he is going to put in the time to be a multi-dimensionally good player.
Skill-wise, I don't see a big difference in the videos between Swanigan and Taylor. They each have some skills, and they each have some rough edges. They have drastically different bodies, yet they're both looking to play the 4. Both of those body types can work well at the 4, though JT needs to add bulk. I do see Swanigan being a bit better bet in the near term because of JT's injury history & because Swanigan already has a body that can deal with D1's physicality down low. But as far as potential, I like JT's chances to be a good or even great player for us.
Swanigan, in my opinion, likely dominated in HS because he's bigger, wider, stronger, etc. He has some skills, but as shown in the McD game, he's not that dominant against higher caliber defenders. I think freshman year at least he will be a good rebounder, and he will contribute otherwise, but he will have some struggles on offense and defense against D1 competition with much quicker hands and feet than he's used to his opponents having. Expect turnovers.
Taylor is obviously not a wide body like Biggie, but he is longer and faster with better hops & shot blocking. He can be that big we need who runs the floor like JJ used to do. Someone compared him to Lawson, and I think that is way off. Lawson was a one trick pony, and Taylor is already more skilled & I'm confident he is going to put in the time to be a multi-dimensionally good player.
Skill-wise, I don't see a big difference in the videos between Swanigan and Taylor. They each have some skills, and they each have some rough edges. They have drastically different bodies, yet they're both looking to play the 4. Both of those body types can work well at the 4, though JT needs to add bulk. I do see Swanigan being a bit better bet in the near term because of JT's injury history & because Swanigan already has a body that can deal with D1's physicality down low. But as far as potential, I like JT's chances to be a good or even great player for us.
First you declare he isn't as good,now you're asking how good he is. You have likely not seen either one of them play.
Pretty silly.
