Wiltfong on Coach Brohm

[StickPurdue]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...g-home-to-louisville-is-far-from-a-slam-dunk/

Essentially, two reasons why Brohm would not take the Louisville job.

One: Louisville currently doesn’t have the ability to break their coaches contract, pay Purdue’s buyout, and offer him a big enough contract to lure him away.

Two: why leave Purdue? He doesn’t go into that much, but Purdue is a better job right now. The rebuild is coming along nicely, the ‘19 class, the fans, and his family loves it. Brohm developed a special bond with Tyler Trent and the whole community. Brohm has showed he can win here and the fans have shown they are all in. That OSU game atmosphere was incredible. Hasn’t been like that since the Tiller years. Packed house and unlocked some previous sellouts the overwhelming majority was Purdue fans and they were very vocal!

Not mentioned, but there aren’t many teams that could offer a dollar amount that the AD wouldn’t match. You will likely see Coach Brohm get another raise and a ridiculous one if Purdue wins the West. The whole staff has earned a raise. Hopefully Purdue can get that buyout up around 7 million dollars.

 

[JohnHoosierr]

I think #2 is more important then reason #1. Honestly, why leave purdue right now? Especially for louisville. We are building something special. Louisville had their shot when he was at wku but instead they chose to hire a disgraced adulterer that already abandoned their program once. Sums Louisville up in a nutshell. If brohm leaves here after being wildly successful it sure as heck won't be for louisville.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

I think #2 is more important then reason #1. Honestly, why leave purdue right now? Especially for louisville. We are building something special. Louisville had their shot when he was at wku but instead they chose to hire a disgraced adulterer that already abandoned their program once. Sums Louisville up in a nutshell. If brohm leaves here after being wildly successful it sure as heck won't be for louisville.

I agree. I could maybe see Brohm in the NFL way down the road after he accomplishes what we wants to here. MAYBE.

 

[Poprudy]

We look like a team under the spot light now. Now comes the recruits that we haven't pulled in years. Brohm is a Boiler and hope he stays a very long time!

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

The best thing for Purdue fans this season is Coach O doing really well at LSU. I thought that would be the biggest hurdle but if Coach O can string together a few real good seasons, that takes another big player out of the SEC. Any other jobs other than Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, and Texas A&M all have entrenched coaches or recently hired ones. The only one I see being a player from the SEC might be Auburn BUT would you rather coach in the SEC West where there isn't much difference between the 4th-7th teams and still having to be behind Bama, LSU, and Texas A&M? I know Brohm likes a challenge but it just appears that monetarily, socially, culturally, and football wise...Purdue fits Brohm as much as Brohm fits Purdue.

 

[BoilerFYF]

I think #2 is more important then reason #1. Honestly, why leave purdue right now? Especially for louisville. We are building something special. Louisville had their shot when he was at wku but instead they chose to hire a disgraced adulterer that already abandoned their program once. Sums Louisville up in a nutshell. If brohm leaves here after being wildly successful it sure as heck won't be for louisville.

He just beat the number two team in the nation like they were Illinois ... lol

 

[LonestarBoilerFan]

Louisville used to worry me more, but I don't think he is going anywhere anytime soon. If he continues to improve this team year over year imagine where he can take us. The sky really is the limit IMO. We know he and his staff can coach. If he continues the current trend of improving his recruiting classes and bringing in better and better talent then what? Better and better Bowl games and possibly a College Playoff team in the future. It could happen and if it does imagine what he will have accomplished. Taking a job some coaches wouldn't even interview for and turning that program around from one of the worst power 5 programs in college football into......... That will be his legacy. He is really building something here that he can definitely take most of the credit for. This baby is his and he isn't gonna leave it.

 

[Pu71indy]

The best thing for Purdue fans this season is Coach O doing really well at LSU. I thought that would be the biggest hurdle but if Coach O can string together a few real good seasons, that takes another big player out of the SEC. Any other jobs other than Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, and Texas A&M all have entrenched coaches or recently hired ones. The only one I see being a player from the SEC might be Auburn BUT would you rather coach in the SEC West where there isn't much difference between the 4th-7th teams and still having to be behind Bama, LSU, and Texas A&M? I know Brohm likes a challenge but it just appears that monetarily, socially, culturally, and football wise...Purdue fits Brohm as much as Brohm fits Purdue.

Finebaum ruled out Auburn making a change anytime soon as Malzon's buyout is 32 mil. He just
signed an extension last year and will be given at least two yrs to right the ship.

 

[BoilerinLouisville]

I'll add some input here, was listening to local talk radio yesterday (louisville) and it was flooded all day with how Brohm is all but a lock to come to Louisville. As much as saying its close to 100%, now it's a bit comical listening to them want what we have right now. I don't think most realize a few things, Brohm can compete for Big Ten Titles each year being in the West, Purdue is a better job right now with more money (Hello BigTen Network) with an AD and fanbase that is all in. Not sure jumps, but Mike definitely needs to restructure his contract this year and make it sticky for him to leave.

 

[StickPurdue]

I'll add some input here, was listening to local talk radio yesterday (louisville) and it was flooded all day with how Brohm is all but a lock to come to Louisville. As much as saying its close to 100%, now it's a bit comical listening to them want what we have right now. I don't think most realize a few things, Brohm can compete for Big Ten Titles each year being in the West, Purdue is a better job right now with more money (Hello BigTen Network) with an AD and fanbase that is all in. Not sure jumps, but Mike definitely needs to restructure his contract this year and make it sticky for him to leave.

I want to see that buyout at 10 million. That sends a message to recruits that he isn’t going anywhere, which right now is the only counterpoint other coaches have. I don’t think he is going anywhere anytime soon, and he has said as much. Why not declare it with a very large buyout? Competing for the West right now after the win over OSU is incredible. The whole staff earned a pay raise. With the ‘19 recruit class and a signature win, pay the man... again...

 

[BoilerBulldog]

I want to see that buyout at 10 million. That sends a message to recruits that he isn’t going anywhere, which right now is the only counterpoint other coaches have. I don’t think he is going anywhere anytime soon, and he has said as much. Why not declare it with a very large buyout? Competing for the West right now after the win over OSU is incredible. The whole staff earned a pay raise. With the ‘19 recruit class and a signature win, pay the man... again...

I don’t think I would sign a contract with a $10MM buyout unless I was willing to retire at that school. Buyouts hurt coaches’ leverage big time.

I disagree with much of this thread. Getting to know more about Brohm and his family, I think the only school he’d ever leave us for is Louisville. But only Brohm can make that call. Saying Purdue is a better job is pointless. It’s his school, his town. That has to mean a bunch to a family focused man like himself. Now can he build that same connection to Purdue? Absolutely. And the longer he stays here the more likely he is to stay for the duration. And Louisville being in no position to buyout Petrino right now is a huge positive for us.

Only Brohm can decide what job is ultimately “better” for him. Dismissing Louisville is bordering on overconfidence though.

And the NFL thing is a complete wildcard. I don’t think it’s very likely but all bets are off if NFL money comes nosing around.

 

[BoilerinLouisville]

With the attendance numbers up big time this year, and expected to increase this would be a no brainer. Lock him up Mike B

 

[DieHardCardTim]

FYI, Bobby will be gone this week with no buyout paid.

 

[DieHardCardTim]

I don’t know whether or not Brohm would take the job at Louisville, but Bobby is going to be fired with cause.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

With the attendance numbers up big time this year, and expected to increase this would be a no brainer. Lock him up Mike B

Again it’s not a money thing. I’m positive we can match anything Louisville offers. He’s not driven by money. He might be driven to go home and fix his college football program. But only he can decide that.

 

[boilermaker75]

FYI, Bobby will be gone this week with no buyout paid.

Then Pitino and Petrino can make it a class action law suit against UL!

 

[bonefish1]

While we always hear "It isn't about the money..." It usually is. But as I said before, I think MBob and the administration know what they have in Coach Brohm, they know how important he is to Purdue financially. If Brohm leaves, it won't be for more money because I think MBob will do whatever needs to be done financially for him to stay.

 

[DieHardCardTim]

Bobby won’t have a lawsuit. He went full on Urban Meyer, so he is gonna get zilch

 

[DieHardCardTim]

And on top of going Urban, he also went Bobby, so pick your scandal

 

[BoilerAlumni12]

He isn't going anywhere. Louisville is a shit hole even if that was his school. He won't touch that dumpster fire.

We have plenty of money and more importantly the wife and children look HAPPY at Purdue.

 

[Chi-Boiler]

I agree with those that say it's really on Brohm and what he wants to do. We all don't think he would leave Purdue in the lurch but those things happen. Anyone talking about Louisville being a "lateral move" just aren't seeing things clearly. When it's your school it's different. If Matt Painter had been coaching at, say, Virginia, when Gene Keady retired, would you be calling it a lateral move for CMP to come to Purdue? Heck no.

As for money, it seems like money is never an issue in these situations. If Louisville wants him bad enough, they'll find a way. Even without Papa John.

I truly believe Brohm is building something special at Purdue and he knows it. I think in general this is a heart vs head issue for Purdue people.

 

[FirstDownB]

Everyone assuming Brohm would return to Louisville purely for sentimental reasons is forgetting one very important factor. Brady Brohm, honorary team captain, lead recruiter, get back coach. When you're a father, your perspective changes.

 

[StickPurdue]

Everyone assuming Brohm would return to Louisville purely for sentimental reasons is forgetting one very important factor. Brady Brohm, honorary team captain, lead recruiter, get back coach. When you're a father, your perspective changes.

Not to mention Tyler Trent. Brohm loves Tyler and Tyler is the epitome of what it means to be a Boilermaker. Also, the ‘19 class coming in ontop of Louisville being a complete rebuild. The move would be purely for nostalgia. Right now with what Purdue has and the resources invested/AD/fan base, Purdue is a better job. The Big West is open for the taking as well. Purdue has been getting a ton of national attention as well. Literally no reason to leave as Purdue is right in the middle of his recruiting wheelhouse. I think Mbob will be very aggressive to keep coach here.

Brohm isn’t quickly going to forget that moment on the field with his players. If he wants to go to the NFL, it wouldn’t make sense to take a step back to Louisville and rebuild again. He has Moore and a chance at getting Bell/Wright. He is going to have some of the best weapons in the nation and a fifth year senior next year at QB. Louisville fans are running out their most successful coach for a bad season. Purdue fans are about to build Brohm a statue.

 

[Bob Sienicki]

In all this talk about loyalty, no one seems to have brought up the issue of Brohm's loyalty to his mentor and friend, Bobby Petrino. There has been a lot of verbiage spilled on this board about how recruits are tied more to the coach that recruited them than the school they attend.

So how much of that is true in the world of coaching? How would Brohm feel when his alma mater, and their notoriously fickle fan base, wants to unceremoniously dump his mentor, Petrino - who is the winningest head coach in UL history - especially during what MIGHT be Petrino's first and only losing season at UL?

No doubt Brohm would have to think twice about how secure his job would be going to UL under those circumstances. That fan base is beginning to remind me a lot of the Tennessee fan base - demanding, entitled, impatient. So while Brohm would be the returning hero today, what would he be if they went 6-6 for a couple of seasons? Happy campers all??? Or ready to jettison him for the next up and coming coach du jour?

Here, he is nothing less than the program savior - adored by all Purdue fans - whether he wins big in his first few years, or not. This is his program now, and the honeymoon is likely to last an entire career.

There? Maybe not so much.

Seems pretty simple to me. But what do I know?

 

[BoilerGal74]

Did no one here listen to Coach’s interview with Doug Gottlieb this morning? Realize everyone hears what they want to hear but Coach Brohm made it pretty clear to me when he told Gottlieb he saw no ceiling for Purdue to join the elite that he wanted to be the one to take us there..... !!!! He’s convinced me it won’t be easy to get him out of here.....Sounds like he has a plan......

 

[Bob Sienicki]

Keep in mind the context of what it would mean to UL fans to have Brohm return. This is not some program that has wallowed in mediocrity for years (like us! lol) looking for the hometown hero to return to save them!

No, UL has gone to 8 bowl games in a row, and 17 (!!!) bowl games since 1998. This is a team with a pedigree that simply doesn't like the idea of a losing season and no bowl game. They want to win NOW and if the winningest coach in UL history cannot give that to them, then off with his head and on to the next guy.

Only in this case, because Brohm went to school there, there is this romantic notion that the returning hero will lead them to the promised land. Nothing more. Win now, or you're on the block, too.

Do you honestly think that if Dabo Swinney, or Nick Saban were currently available, that Brohm would even get a sniff from UL???

Look if Tee Martin (UT's QB during their last ncaa championship) could barely get a sniff for the UT head coaching job from the guy who was his head coach, what would prevent UL from hiring a bigger name than Brohm?

Now, or for that matter, to replace him.

 

[IndySouthsider]

Keep in mind the context of what it would mean to UL fans to have Brohm return. This is not some program that has wallowed in mediocrity for years (like us! lol) looking for the hometown hero to return to save them!

No, UL has gone to 8 bowl games in a row, and 17 (!!!) bowl games since 1998. This is a team with a pedigree that simply doesn't like the idea of a losing season and no bowl game. They want to win NOW and if the winningest coach in UL history cannot give that to them, then off with his head and on to the next guy.

Only in this case, because Brohm went to school there, there is this romantic notion that the returning hero will lead them to the promised land. Nothing more. Win now, or you're on the block, too.

Do you honestly think that if Dabo Swinney, or Nick Saban were currently available, that Brohm would even get a sniff from UL???

Look if Tee Martin (UT's QB during their last ncaa championship) could barely get a sniff for the UT head coaching job from the guy who was his head coach, what would prevent UL from hiring a bigger name than Brohm?

Now, or for that matter, to replace him.

Brohm is that big name now though. What he has done at Purdue cements him as everyone’s #1. He’s getting options, it’s Bobinski who has to keep him.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

I want to see that buyout at 10 million. That sends a message to recruits that he isn’t going anywhere, which right now is the only counterpoint other coaches have. I don’t think he is going anywhere anytime soon, and he has said as much. Why not declare it with a very large buyout? Competing for the West right now after the win over OSU is incredible. The whole staff earned a pay raise. With the ‘19 recruit class and a signature win, pay the man... again...

Bobinski actually spoke about a buyout last year. He said he refuses to make a massive buyout because it literally isn’t a deterrent from someone leaving. He would rather make a coach feel as though they are wanted because of other aspects of their contract and not felt ‘trapped’ bc of the buyout. I tend to agree and stronger language, specifically incentives, can be better things to keep a coach here.

 

[Mgkcbb]

I think #2 is more important then reason #1. Honestly, why leave purdue right now? Especially for louisville. We are building something special. Louisville had their shot when he was at wku but instead they chose to hire a disgraced adulterer that already abandoned their program once. Sums Louisville up in a nutshell. If brohm leaves here after being wildly successful it sure as heck won't be for louisville.

It would be hard for me, as an offensive minded head coach, to leave a school that gets 2 more years of RONDALE and 3 more years of David Bell.

 

[Purdue85]

I don’t know whether or not Brohm would take the job at Louisville, but Bobby is going to be fired with cause.

And Bobby will have lawyers in tow.

They don't have to have a buyout for it to be prohibitive. All they need is the threat of a lawsuit. A substantial amount of money WILL be paid. To believe otherwise is just wishing.

 

[BoilerFYF]

My take on this is, what if Brohm doesn’t take it? Does it prohibit him from telling Louisville they have a few off the field image things to fix and then taking the job in 2-4 years when Louisville has their ducks in a row? Brohm can step in and still be Brohm for Louisville. Louisville can get their house clean.. and Brohm keeps his reputation intact as a guy who doesn’t just jump ship after two years.

 

[StickPurdue]

Bobinski actually spoke about a buyout last year. He said he refuses to make a massive buyout because it literally isn’t a deterrent from someone leaving. He would rather make a coach feel as though they are wanted because of other aspects of their contract and not felt ‘trapped’ bc of the buyout. I tend to agree and stronger language, specifically incentives, can be better things to keep a coach here.

Well as long as he is prepared to be blamed for setting a high buyout if Brohm leaves, then that is fine. Buyout pays the coach if he gets fired and the coach doesn’t pay the buyout, the school does. Get that buyout much higher. When Purdue continues to invest more and more money, you have to protect your investment. If you have seen Jerry McGuire you would understand that a word stronger than oak means nothing if it ain’t signed in contract. As for Brohm? Show... him... the money!!!!!!

 

[Purdue85]

Well as long as he is prepared to be blamed for setting a high buyout if Brohm leaves, then that is fine. Buyout pays the coach if he gets fired and the coach doesn’t pay the buyout, the school does. Get that buyout much higher. When Purdue continues to invest more and more money, you have to protect your investment. If you have seen Jerry McGuire you would understand that a word stronger than oak means nothing if it ain’t signed in contract. As for Brohm? Show... him... the money!!!!!!

I don't completely disagree, but I've said this before: not everyone is after the money. Stop assuming it's all about the money.

 

[StickPurdue]

I don't completely disagree, but I've said this before: not everyone is after the money. Stop assuming it's all about the money.

Stop assuming my assumptions. Of course it isn’t all about the money. There are several quotes out there that would say otherwise. It’s how he is wired. But that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be daily compensated and he is clearly a top 25 coach. So as they say in Rounders... pay the man his money.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

I don't completely disagree, but I've said this before: not everyone is after the money. Stop assuming it's all about the money.

It may be a lot about the money, but not just money for Brohm. It’s a lot about money to keep that coaching staff intact, and also the support staff.

 

[clbndgm]

If the AD next year decided to put $x into paying football personnel, I think Brohm would be more positively impacted by divvying up that money among the staff than by giving it all to him. I agree with those that say money is not his prime mover. Driving a car that was cheap in 2004 makes that case pretty clearly.

I think loyalty is huge to him- that is what a grad feels toward his alma mater, after all, right? Even if that alma mater is Louisville. And trying to keep the staff he built together for him- I think he would see that as an act of loyalty from Purdue directed towards him. Plus it makes his job easier if he doesn't have to be breaking in new assistants (and spending the time to find them first, of course).

 

[BoilerBulldog]

Stop assuming my assumptions. Of course it isn’t all about the money. There are several quotes out there that would say otherwise. It’s how he is wired. But that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be daily compensated and he is clearly a top 25 coach. So as they say in Rounders... pay the man his money.

He already is.

 

[Purdue85]

Stop assuming my assumptions. Of course it isn’t all about the money. There are several quotes out there that would say otherwise. It’s how he is wired. But that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be daily compensated and he is clearly a top 25 coach. So as they say in Rounders... pay the man his money.

okay. fair enough. I got stuck on your post, where you wrote:

Well as long as he is prepared to be blamed for setting a high buyout if Brohm leaves, then that is fine. Buyout pays the coach if he gets fired and the coach doesn’t pay the buyout, the school does. Get that buyout much higher. When Purdue continues to invest more and more money, you have to protect your investment. If you have seen Jerry McGuire you would understand that a word stronger than oak means nothing if it ain’t signed in contract. As for Brohm? Show... him... the money!!!!!!
.
Of course it isn't all about the money, but that's all that specific post addressed. He is compensated. There's nothing to suggest he won't be compensated. He will be paid "his" money.

 

[Purdue85]

It may be a lot about the money, but not just money for Brohm. It’s a lot about money to keep that coaching staff intact, and also the support staff.

it always is. For all sports, all coaches, each coaching staff.

 

[njm8845]

The only one I see being a player from the SEC might be Auburn BUT would you rather coach in the SEC West where there isn't much difference between the 4th-7th teams and still having to be behind Bama, LSU, and Texas A&M? I know Brohm likes a challenge but it just appears that monetarily, socially, culturally, and football wise...Purdue fits Brohm as much as Brohm fits Purdue.

I've said for awhile that Purdue is a good job. Really hungry fanbase but even if you win 8 wins a year, they'll build a statue of you. At most places that gets you run out of town.

Would you rather take your chances against Iowa and Wisconsin or Bama and LSU? Get to the title game and anything can happen.