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Chuck Martin, Miami (Ohio)​

Miami (Ohio) coach Chuck Martin walks on the field during warmups prior to his team's game against Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium.

Miami (Ohio) coach Chuck Martin walks on the field during warmups prior to his team's game against Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium.
Maybe the 64-66 record isn't impressive, but Martin has taken the Redhawks to five bowl games and has recruited Indiana well. Prior to making the jump to FBS, Martin succeeded Brian Kelly at Division II Grand Valley State, where he went 74-7 in six seasons and made three appearances in the NCAA Division II national championship game, winning twice. That earned him a job on Kelly's staff at Notre Dame, where he eventually became offensive coordinator before taking the Miami job in 2014.


If you can go 74 and 7 at GVS which is a bonified football powerhouse, and five bowl games at Miami of Ohio, along with knowing the recruits in the Midwest, he might be a solid choice. And he's' only making 600K at Miami.

Bo says he'll name the next coach in the next ten days.
 

Chuck Martin, Miami (Ohio)​

Miami (Ohio) coach Chuck Martin walks on the field during warmups prior to his team's game against Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium.'s game against Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium.

Miami (Ohio) coach Chuck Martin walks on the field during warmups prior to his team's game against Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium.
Maybe the 64-66 record isn't impressive, but Martin has taken the Redhawks to five bowl games and has recruited Indiana well. Prior to making the jump to FBS, Martin succeeded Brian Kelly at Division II Grand Valley State, where he went 74-7 in six seasons and made three appearances in the NCAA Division II national championship game, winning twice. That earned him a job on Kelly's staff at Notre Dame, where he eventually became offensive coordinator before taking the Miami job in 2014.


If you can go 74 and 7 at GVS which is a bonified football powerhouse, and five bowl games at Miami of Ohio, along with knowing the recruits in the Midwest, he might be a solid choice. And he's' only making 600K at Miami.

Bo says he'll name the next coach in the next ten days.
hard pass
 
hard pass
Here's Jerry Palm's list and Chuck is on it...

I’m somewhat surprised the Boilermakers waited this long to pull the trigger, but they’ve officially moved on to a critical coaching search.

The next coach needs a plan.

It’s less important that Purdue looks for a particular archetype of coach and more important that the coach can sell the administration on the future of the program. Because of this, I think the Boilermakers will look for a younger coach who has succeeded in the new era of college football.

Here are five guys I think could be the next Purdue head coach.

Andy Kotelnicki (Penn State Offensive Coordinator)​

Andy Kotelnicki can work wonders on offense. He’s done it at multiple stops, but this would be his most challenging coaching job ever, at least initially. Kotelnicki thrives by putting his best players in a position to make plays, often isolating defenders in unfavorable matchups.

If I were in charge at Purdue, I would have questions about his team-building approach, and he’d need to convince the administration that he can do more than simply coach an offense.

Conversely, Kotelnicki will likely have better offerings than Purdue in this coaching cycle and doesn’t need to rush into a job unless he sees an immediate path to success.

Chuck Martin (Miami-OH Head Coach)​

I’m intrigued by the possibility of Chuck Martin as a head coach, but he and the Boilermakers would have to talk through some things first.

Martin just keeps winning with the Miami (OH) Redhawks despite the existence of the transfer portal. The Redhawks were completely decimated by the portal this season and yet he has the Redhawks back in the MAC championship.

The reason the Redhawks have been ravaged in the portal is two-fold.

Martin and his staff have hit on dozens of evaluations and his players are moving up to higher levels. He’s not losing players to like programs. Secondly, the Redhawks have struggled with NIL infrastructure and funds.

If Purdue can convince Martin that his teams will be competitive in the NIL game, this could be a great fit.

Jon Sumrall (Tulane Head Coach)​

The first-year head coach of the Tulane Green Wave will be one of the hottest names in the coaching cycle this offseason. I’m not convinced he leaves for just any Power Four job, and Purdue likely can’t compete with some of the better openings this offseason, but the university should still call.

Jon Sumrall is one of the best defensive coaches and program-builders in college football, and he brings a toughness that I think would resonate with the Purdue fanbase. Still, it’s a massive pull for a school that isn’t in a position to make a splashy hire.

Tim Albin (Ohio Head Coach)​

There are several excellent coaches in the MAC, but the conference has been a coaching graveyard regarding upward movement. Still, while Tim Albin wouldn’t be the flashiest hire, he’s an excellent football coach who knows how to do more with less.

He has the Ohio Bobcats back in the MAC Football Championship Game, and his offensive coaching ability should excite Purdue fans. He’s probably not at the top of the list, but he’d be a strong candidate.

Mike Shanahan (Indiana Offensive Coordinator)​

Purdue might be tempted to replicate the Indiana Hoosiers’ model led by Curt Cignetti this season. And what better way to do that than with Cignetti’s right-hand man?

Mike Shanahan is young but brings a strong offensive background and the ability to succeed in the transfer portal. He’s a good coach and a better recruiter, but it’s probably too early for a head coaching job. Still, this is the type of risk that Purdue might take.

Would MS leave IU to take the PU job?

Other Candidates To Replace Walters​

College Football Network has you covered with the latest from the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, SEC, and every Group of Five conference and FBS Independent program.
 
i believe i said in another thread that Purdue is not a very attractive job for a head coaching hire. Look at the names above. Do you see any name coaches ? do you even see any speculation or rumors of any name coach even being interested ? the namesof the coaches above are the type of coaches a school like Purdue gets to choose from. By comparison, walters doesn't look that bad. he just had some very bad assistants and no synergy on his coaching staff. What Purdue badly needs to do is to hire a coach who will bring his entire staff and some players with him.
 
Brian Kelly stinks he wasn’t great at ND and in hot seat at LSU wonder why they make that sound like a good thing.

It’s not hard to have winning record at Miami. Randy Walker and Terry Hoeppner had much better records there and went to northwestern and indiana respectively and were decent big ten coaches but I don’t know why we would look at someone who has been passed up by other P4 programs for a decade and wasn’t as successful as those two.

Pass.
 
Lol. Not sure what anyone here expected. This is exactly the type of pool I expected. And this guy would be a huge upgrade.
 
For me, anyone but maybe Silverfield will seem like a disappointment. Odom “sounds” great but, honestly, it’s his OC we really want and who knows if he’ll come/how long we’d have him for…
 
He wouldn't be my top target. He was on his 8th year at Miami (OH) when we were looking 2 years ago... I don't think there has been anything the last 2 years that would move him into my top 3.

He is 64 and 66 in D1. The last 2 years he has dominated the MAC but he has no major p4 win. Cinci under Satterfield meh.

This season he has Ls against Cinci and Northwestern.

If he is our hire it would speak volume about how other coaches feel about purdue football.
 
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Not seeing any home run for sure hires
No idea if that's directed at me or just speaking generally.

If generally, then I would say yeah there probably aren't any home run for sure hires coming to a team in a tough conference with few players and no real history of financial commitment to football.

If insinuating I will never find someone a home run hire, I'm sure there are home run hires out there, but hard to see why they'd pick us over some of the other openings with programs in better shape unless they really want to be in the B10 (maybe) or they really love a challenge.
 
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No idea if that's directed at me or just speaking generally.

If generally, then I would say yeah there probably aren't any home run for sure hires coming to a team in a tough conference with few players and no real history of financial commitment to football.

If insinuating I will never find someone a home run hire, I'm sure there are home run hires out there, but hard to see why they'd pick us over some of the other openings with programs in better shape unless they really want to be in the B10 (maybe) or they really love a challenge.
Qazpalm having split personalities makes sense.
 
Lol. Not sure what anyone here expected. This is exactly the type of pool I expected. And this guy would be a huge upgrade.
Exactly. The problem isnt the pool...coach martin would be a good hire. The problem is that the same criteria and standards werent used in the last hire. Does anyone want a 40 year old 2 year coordinator from another b10 school with no head coaching experience. Why was that acceptable two years ago and why do the people who made that million +dollar drcision get a pass. Coach Martin has actual results to judge him by and if people want to be critical please explain your reasoning
 
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Lol. Not sure what anyone here expected. This is exactly the type of pool I expected. And this guy would be a huge upgrade.
Exactly. The problem isnt the pool...coach martin would be a good hire. The problem is that the same criteria and standards werent used in the last hire. Does anyone want a 40 year old 2 year coordinator from another b10 school with no head coaching experience. Why was that acceptable two years ago and why do the people who made that million +dollar drcision get a pass. Coach Martin has actual results to judge him by and if people want to be critical please explain your reasoning
 
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Qazpalm having split personalities makes sense.
No. Purdues level of commitment in terms of monetary compensation is not the same as alabama. Thats true. Purdues financial commitment to football with a new coach was on par with iu, nebraska, etc but the results were MUCH worse. The fact is that to get a coach we will most likely need to promote someone from a lesser conference and compemsate them on the same level as a lower experience b10 coach. That will always be the case. This time lets hire someone with proven success as a hc over multiple years and hopefully with multiple programs....thats as close to a home run as we can get.
 
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Here's Jerry Palm's list and Chuck is on it...

I’m somewhat surprised the Boilermakers waited this long to pull the trigger, but they’ve officially moved on to a critical coaching search.

The next coach needs a plan.

It’s less important that Purdue looks for a particular archetype of coach and more important that the coach can sell the administration on the future of the program. Because of this, I think the Boilermakers will look for a younger coach who has succeeded in the new era of college football.

Here are five guys I think could be the next Purdue head coach.

Andy Kotelnicki (Penn State Offensive Coordinator)​

Andy Kotelnicki can work wonders on offense. He’s done it at multiple stops, but this would be his most challenging coaching job ever, at least initially. Kotelnicki thrives by putting his best players in a position to make plays, often isolating defenders in unfavorable matchups.

If I were in charge at Purdue, I would have questions about his team-building approach, and he’d need to convince the administration that he can do more than simply coach an offense.

Conversely, Kotelnicki will likely have better offerings than Purdue in this coaching cycle and doesn’t need to rush into a job unless he sees an immediate path to success.

Chuck Martin (Miami-OH Head Coach)​

I’m intrigued by the possibility of Chuck Martin as a head coach, but he and the Boilermakers would have to talk through some things first.

Martin just keeps winning with the Miami (OH) Redhawks despite the existence of the transfer portal. The Redhawks were completely decimated by the portal this season and yet he has the Redhawks back in the MAC championship.

The reason the Redhawks have been ravaged in the portal is two-fold.

Martin and his staff have hit on dozens of evaluations and his players are moving up to higher levels. He’s not losing players to like programs. Secondly, the Redhawks have struggled with NIL infrastructure and funds.

If Purdue can convince Martin that his teams will be competitive in the NIL game, this could be a great fit.

Jon Sumrall (Tulane Head Coach)​

The first-year head coach of the Tulane Green Wave will be one of the hottest names in the coaching cycle this offseason. I’m not convinced he leaves for just any Power Four job, and Purdue likely can’t compete with some of the better openings this offseason, but the university should still call.

Jon Sumrall is one of the best defensive coaches and program-builders in college football, and he brings a toughness that I think would resonate with the Purdue fanbase. Still, it’s a massive pull for a school that isn’t in a position to make a splashy hire.

Tim Albin (Ohio Head Coach)​

There are several excellent coaches in the MAC, but the conference has been a coaching graveyard regarding upward movement. Still, while Tim Albin wouldn’t be the flashiest hire, he’s an excellent football coach who knows how to do more with less.

He has the Ohio Bobcats back in the MAC Football Championship Game, and his offensive coaching ability should excite Purdue fans. He’s probably not at the top of the list, but he’d be a strong candidate.

Mike Shanahan (Indiana Offensive Coordinator)​

Purdue might be tempted to replicate the Indiana Hoosiers’ model led by Curt Cignetti this season. And what better way to do that than with Cignetti’s right-hand man?

Mike Shanahan is young but brings a strong offensive background and the ability to succeed in the transfer portal. He’s a good coach and a better recruiter, but it’s probably too early for a head coaching job. Still, this is the type of risk that Purdue might take.

Would MS leave IU to take the PU job?

Other Candidates To Replace Walters​

College Football Network has you covered with the latest from the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, SEC, and every Group of Five conference and FBS Independent program.
o these !a) Chadwell

1b) Sumrall

1c) Odom and his staff
 
Exactly. The problem isnt the pool...coach martin would be a good hire. The problem is that the same criteria and standards werent used in the last hire. Does anyone want a 40 year old 2 year coordinator from another b10 school with no head coaching experience. Why was that acceptable two years ago and why do the people who made that million +dollar drcision get a pass. Coach Martin has actual results to judge him by and if people want to be critical please explain your reasoning
Say that again. 😉
 
“Conversely, Kotelnicki will likely have better offerings than Purdue in this coaching cycle and doesn’t need to rush into a job unless he sees an immediate path to success”

Funny, palm talking a lot like me here lol
 

Chuck Martin, Miami (Ohio)​

Miami (Ohio) coach Chuck Martin walks on the field during warmups prior to his team's game against Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium.'s game against Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium.

Miami (Ohio) coach Chuck Martin walks on the field during warmups prior to his team's game against Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium.
Maybe the 64-66 record isn't impressive, but Martin has taken the Redhawks to five bowl games and has recruited Indiana well. Prior to making the jump to FBS, Martin succeeded Brian Kelly at Division II Grand Valley State, where he went 74-7 in six seasons and made three appearances in the NCAA Division II national championship game, winning twice. That earned him a job on Kelly's staff at Notre Dame, where he eventually became offensive coordinator before taking the Miami job in 2014.


If you can go 74 and 7 at GVS which is a bonified football powerhouse, and five bowl games at Miami of Ohio, along with knowing the recruits in the Midwest, he might be a solid choice. And he's' only making 600K at Miami.

Bo says he'll name the next coach in the next ten days.

Chuck Martin, Miami (Ohio)​

Miami (Ohio) coach Chuck Martin walks on the field during warmups prior to his team's game against Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium.'s game against Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium.

Miami (Ohio) coach Chuck Martin walks on the field during warmups prior to his team's game against Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium.
Maybe the 64-66 record isn't impressive, but Martin has taken the Redhawks to five bowl games and has recruited Indiana well. Prior to making the jump to FBS, Martin succeeded Brian Kelly at Division II Grand Valley State, where he went 74-7 in six seasons and made three appearances in the NCAA Division II national championship game, winning twice. That earned him a job on Kelly's staff at Notre Dame, where he eventually became offensive coordinator before taking the Miami job in 2014.


If you can go 74 and 7 at GVS which is a bonified football powerhouse, and five bowl games at Miami of Ohio, along with knowing the recruits in the Midwest, he might be a solid choice. And he's' only making 600K at Miami.

Bo says he'll name the next coach in the next ten days.
I’d rather have Brent Vigen.
 
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Look at this from a coach’s perspective. I have to believe the UNC coaching position will pay just as much as Purdue. If you were the coach, which job would you rather have?

I have to believe there are better opportunities for coaches than the Purdue job. And what you will see is a pool of young assistants with no proven record of being able to handle a head coaching job. Or an old guy with a record that is mediocre in a mediocre conference.

Can a guy with a mediocre record at any MAC school produce a winner at Purdue?

You raise the names of the guy at Memphis and Liberty. They haven’t been fired. Would they just leave their current situation to come to Purdue? Or would they rather stay where they are for 1-2 more years to see what other openings pop up?

I have a feeling a lot of people here will be very disappointed in the actual hire and with the other candidates who actually were interviewed. And you will be shouting. Fire BOBO.

A poster said bobo didn’t want to fire Walters but the Purdue President ordered him to do so. Is it possible BOBO might just hire a mediocre candidate out of spite for the president doing BOBO’s job?

The problem with Walters was his assistants just didn’t mesh together. To be successful the next coach is going to have to bring his assistants with him. I’m unsure if that will limit the field of candidates or not.
 
Look at this from a coach’s perspective. I have to believe the UNC coaching position will pay just as much as Purdue. If you were the coach, which job would you rather have?

I have to believe there are better opportunities for coaches than the Purdue job. And what you will see is a pool of young assistants with no proven record of being able to handle a head coaching job. Or an old guy with a record that is mediocre in a mediocre conference.

Can a guy with a mediocre record at any MAC school produce a winner at Purdue?

You raise the names of the guy at Memphis and Liberty. They haven’t been fired. Would they just leave their current situation to come to Purdue? Or would they rather stay where they are for 1-2 more years to see what other openings pop up?

I have a feeling a lot of people here will be very disappointed in the actual hire and with the other candidates who actually were interviewed. And you will be shouting. Fire BOBO.

A poster said bobo didn’t want to fire Walters but the Purdue President ordered him to do so. Is it possible BOBO might just hire a mediocre candidate out of spite for the president doing BOBO’s job?

The problem with Walters was his assistants just didn’t mesh together. To be successful the next coach is going to have to bring his assistants with him. I’m unsure if that will limit the field of candidates or not.
There are literally 3 other decent head coaching jobs available right now UNC, WVU and UCF, and we are the only current opening in the P2 of the Big Ten and SEC. I would think we're in a good spot to land a good candidate.
 
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Yep. The name of that reason is Grimes.
It's funny how you've latched onto this Grimes thing. It couldn't have been any other reason, like there being $400k in the collective for football or anything like that. lol
 
Look at this from a coach’s perspective. I have to believe the UNC coaching position will pay just as much as Purdue. If you were the coach, which job would you rather have?

I have to believe there are better opportunities for coaches than the Purdue job. And what you will see is a pool of young assistants with no proven record of being able to handle a head coaching job. Or an old guy with a record that is mediocre in a mediocre conference.

Can a guy with a mediocre record at any MAC school produce a winner at Purdue?

You raise the names of the guy at Memphis and Liberty. They haven’t been fired. Would they just leave their current situation to come to Purdue? Or would they rather stay where they are for 1-2 more years to see what other openings pop up?

I have a feeling a lot of people here will be very disappointed in the actual hire and with the other candidates who actually were interviewed. And you will be shouting. Fire BOBO.

A poster said bobo didn’t want to fire Walters but the Purdue President ordered him to do so. Is it possible BOBO might just hire a mediocre candidate out of spite for the president doing BOBO’s job?

The problem with Walters was his assistants just didn’t mesh together. To be successful the next coach is going to have to bring his assistants with him. I’m unsure if that will limit the field of candidates or not.
Why would Bobinski deliberately hire a bad coach? Even if he is close to retirement, it would tarnish his reputation permanently.

In terms of coaches leaving Memphis and Liberty, you give them probably $3-4 million more per year than they're getting at their current universities. That's a lot of incentive. A good coach can probably find 5-6 wins more than Walters got by bringing in a sound system and a few good players to add to what we have.
 
It's funny how you've latched onto this Grimes thing. It couldn't have been any other reason, like there being $400k in the collective for football or anything like that. lol
Grimes wanted Walters. Grimes got what she wanted.
 
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