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When the NCAA banned satellite camps, there was outrage amongst coaches - some more so than others. But it's a topic I've been complaining about with Purdue for years.

What Michigan does with their camps 'nationwide' is not really realistic for Purdue (who the hell would show up).

However, things like what Missouri has been doing for years are exactly what Purdue should be implementing. Missouri is a lot like Purdue in many respects - the campus is not located in the population centers of the state and those centers are 2+ hours away from campus. So what do they do? Bring the camps to the population centers. This has helped improve their recruiting in-state as even though they are the only major in-state programs, their population centers are basically on the borders of states and places like Kansas City are similar in distance to Mizzou as they are to Lincoln, Nebraska.

So Mizzou set up camps in Kansas City (2 hours), St. Louis (2 hours) and Springfield (3 hours). While this is not a great example given the outcome later down the line, Mizzou was able to pick-up a commitment from Springfield from the #1 recruit in the country because he first got exposed to Mizzou and the coaching staff at the Springfield camp (without having ever been to campus). So not only does it give you additional exposure, builds relationships with in-state schools/staffs/players, etc. - it can actually help you with actual recruits that may not get exposed to Purdue because of where they live.

Not only would this be smart for Purdue to do - say in Indianapolis, Ft. Wayne, the Region for example - but on top of that, Purdue doesn't even offer overnight camps ON CAMPUS! Purdue's longest football camp lasts 4 hours. Missouri has camps that last 3 days on-campus. Most of Purdue's camps last 3 hours.

And this is not just a Hazell thing - Hope was the same thing.

Purdue's just not a program that's going to be able to do the status quo and expect to have great results. We can't do the motions and think we're going to win. Until Purdue starts thinking outside the box, it's going to have a hard time competing with the bottom of the Big Ten, let alone the elite.
 
I honestly didn't know we didn't even have overnight camps. How are camps funded? Do attendees have to pay a fee? Or does the school foot the cost? I assume finances play a role in why we don't do it. Not justifying but just trying the understand the school's rationale.
 
When the NCAA banned satellite camps, there was outrage amongst coaches - some more so than others. But it's a topic I've been complaining about with Purdue for years.

What Michigan does with their camps 'nationwide' is not really realistic for Purdue (who the hell would show up).

However, things like what Missouri has been doing for years are exactly what Purdue should be implementing. Missouri is a lot like Purdue in many respects - the campus is not located in the population centers of the state and those centers are 2+ hours away from campus. So what do they do? Bring the camps to the population centers. This has helped improve their recruiting in-state as even though they are the only major in-state programs, their population centers are basically on the borders of states and places like Kansas City are similar in distance to Mizzou as they are to Lincoln, Nebraska.

So Mizzou set up camps in Kansas City (2 hours), St. Louis (2 hours) and Springfield (3 hours). While this is not a great example given the outcome later down the line, Mizzou was able to pick-up a commitment from Springfield from the #1 recruit in the country because he first got exposed to Mizzou and the coaching staff at the Springfield camp (without having ever been to campus). So not only does it give you additional exposure, builds relationships with in-state schools/staffs/players, etc. - it can actually help you with actual recruits that may not get exposed to Purdue because of where they live.

Not only would this be smart for Purdue to do - say in Indianapolis, Ft. Wayne, the Region for example - but on top of that, Purdue doesn't even offer overnight camps ON CAMPUS! Purdue's longest football camp lasts 4 hours. Missouri has camps that last 3 days on-campus. Most of Purdue's camps last 3 hours.

And this is not just a Hazell thing - Hope was the same thing.

Purdue's just not a program that's going to be able to do the status quo and expect to have great results. We can't do the motions and think we're going to win. Until Purdue starts thinking outside the box, it's going to have a hard time competing with the bottom of the Big Ten, let alone the elite.

There are allegedly some camps being set up in the Midwest for this summer
 
When the NCAA banned satellite camps, there was outrage amongst coaches - some more so than others. But it's a topic I've been complaining about with Purdue for years.

What Michigan does with their camps 'nationwide' is not really realistic for Purdue (who the hell would show up).

However, things like what Missouri has been doing for years are exactly what Purdue should be implementing. Missouri is a lot like Purdue in many respects - the campus is not located in the population centers of the state and those centers are 2+ hours away from campus. So what do they do? Bring the camps to the population centers. This has helped improve their recruiting in-state as even though they are the only major in-state programs, their population centers are basically on the borders of states and places like Kansas City are similar in distance to Mizzou as they are to Lincoln, Nebraska.

So Mizzou set up camps in Kansas City (2 hours), St. Louis (2 hours) and Springfield (3 hours). While this is not a great example given the outcome later down the line, Mizzou was able to pick-up a commitment from Springfield from the #1 recruit in the country because he first got exposed to Mizzou and the coaching staff at the Springfield camp (without having ever been to campus). So not only does it give you additional exposure, builds relationships with in-state schools/staffs/players, etc. - it can actually help you with actual recruits that may not get exposed to Purdue because of where they live.

Not only would this be smart for Purdue to do - say in Indianapolis, Ft. Wayne, the Region for example - but on top of that, Purdue doesn't even offer overnight camps ON CAMPUS! Purdue's longest football camp lasts 4 hours. Missouri has camps that last 3 days on-campus. Most of Purdue's camps last 3 hours.

And this is not just a Hazell thing - Hope was the same thing.

Purdue's just not a program that's going to be able to do the status quo and expect to have great results. We can't do the motions and think we're going to win. Until Purdue starts thinking outside the box, it's going to have a hard time competing with the bottom of the Big Ten, let alone the elite.
Very informative..........thanks for the post! Once again sounds like we are behind the "EIGHT BALL" once again. Not a surprise, I guess...................
 
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It seems like Purdue and other major colleges have all these people in charge of different things for each sport, who is the one person who sets up these camps?
 
It seems like Purdue and other major colleges have all these people in charge of different things for each sport, who is the one person who sets up these camps?

Camps are usually money makers for the coaches/staff. They are set-up independently of Purdue. The way Purdue has set theirs up (i.e. little effort to make it worthwhile) leads me to believe they are more focused on making some extra cash than actually using it for any purpose. Especially with no overnights.
 
There are allegedly some camps being set up in the Midwest for this summer

I mean, it's getting a little last minute for that. But while we do not know details and what includes the "midwest" (ugh, State of Purdue), what's the point of doing this in Pennsylvania or Iowa when we don't even have strong brand recognition in our own state. Cover your state/immediate region (i.e. Chicago/eastern Illinois) first.
 
I mean, it's getting a little last minute for that. But while we do not know details and what includes the "midwest" (ugh, State of Purdue), what's the point of doing this in Pennsylvania or Iowa when we don't even have strong brand recognition in our own state. Cover your state/immediate region (i.e. Chicago/eastern Illinois) first.
At least The Haze is consistent with his lateness: Late firing coordinators, late offering 3 and 4 star legacies, late realizing "ground and pound" offense won't, and never has, worked at Purdue, etc etc.

Nice guy I'm sure, but not exactly a quick study.
 
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