I didn't mean he was a Rondale Moore level "star" back there or anything. I just meant he gets tough yards and catches/runs really well. Great utility player who does a lot for the offense. And I'm not convinced he couldn't be a 1,000 yard rusher if they committed to it and he had the gas in the tank.
I was wrong to bag on horvath’s ability early on. The kid can play. Two things. I still want doerue to be around 50% of the involvement. And If you’re going to rely heavily on horvath, you’ve got to go with O’Connell unless Plummer has dramatically increased his ability to process the game
I think your assessment is right on. You really don’t see the drawback of horvath until Plummer drops back and the entire back seven is sitting in coverage waiting. Horvath reminds me of jerod void. If we get the whole rest of the offense together and doerue goes down or struggles.. yeah horvath all day.
You still should be able to put a running back on the field who can get horvath’s yards on short to intermediate carries while also threatening the long TD run if defenses ignore him. Even DJ Knox could do that. Ask Ohio state
This is where you get hurt by missing on the guys you bring in.. bringing in guys who don’t stay on campus. We’ve had more guys leave it seems than they had late in the tiller years… I hope this kid from southern Indiana can come in abs be somebody as he matures.
It’s funny how you read this guy talking about Minnesota and he doesn’t sound like if he was a Purdue fan talking about Purdue he’d be like “eh.. we are going 8-4”
Somebody from Southern Indiana has join the Purdue club over the weekend.
I would like to see him be the next DJ KnoxSomebody from Southern Indiana has join the Purdue club over the weekend.
Uncle Craig
He definitely got a couple good football RB coaches that can bring the best out of him that for sure.
When it boils down to it, it's Brohm's fault. When you have to rely on a walk on as your starting TB in year 5, that's a recruiting issue.
It's more of a development issue. Hewitt never got a carry. Maybe he wasn't ready for primetime. But you can't just play one guy exclusively and expect others to develop. Not how it works.
Why would you say Horvath has “ less talent”? If they guys below him aren’t ready to play based on their practices, they aren’t necessarily more talented in any way.
You apparently don't understand talent development. Sometimes a player that has more natural talent hasn't picked up the playbook / pass protection scheme. It takes time, dedication, and reps to get there.
Um, I do understand talent development. It’s called , “ get Reps in practice and show me how good you are”, which I can assure you all of our RBs get. You don’t do Talent development in games when your mission is to win games by putting your most talented on the field…You don’t just play guys to play them, especially when our average margin of victory or loss is so small.
All things considered no one on the roster other than doerue was prepared to challenge horvath. It was an issue of the guys who were brought in for whatever reason just not panning out.
This!!!! Hovarth was okay last year but the term that comes to mind with Hovarth and his stats is "Fools Gold". With the receiving core we had last year teams were more than willing to let Hovarth get his while trying to take away our more dynamic players.
You don't seem to understand the difference between talent and reliability/trust. And I've seen numerous instances where talent wasn't deemed ready, made it on the field during a game, and showed their talent.
Remember when Thienemen was on the field in front of someone more talented? Not arguing the RB situation. But my point was that sometimes talent only shines in real game situations.
In both situations it goes back to the same thing.. all these coaches have 85 scholarships. There are coaches who would have come in here in the same situation as brohm and by last year had another running back in the vicinity of a DJ Knox (who is marginally better than horvath) and a better safety than Thienemann.
There are probably people who think DJ Knox wouldn’t have run for even more years with bell, Wright and Durham garnering the attention they did.
Curious why all the “ you don’t understands? ”. Because pretty sure I got a grasp on this. We don’t have 2-3 games in our schedule where we get to empty the bench and play “ talented” players that aren’t reliable yet. We should… Nevada, Eastern Michigan, but we seem to fight for our lives in those games. If we had a few 55-0 scores against those guys I’m sure Brohm would empty the bench and we could see the “ talented, but in need of game Reps” guys.
I apologize for the "don't understand" comments. However, I think you're missing my point. The fact that when Doerue was hurt, we really didn't have a running back other than Horvath who had any playing time or game readiness speaks to development of players. If he would have gotten hurt or banged up, we would have been either playing someone like Anthrop or Moore at running back, which would have been a disaster.
You note horvath’s pass blocking, then you like players who are of the size where that would be a challenge? 🤔
Keep in mind..... He is forever a Walk-on and Purdue will never be a consistent winner until all Walk-on Players have been purged from the roster.......TIC
Are people really saying horvath is a problem? I don’t have a problem with horvath playing and getting a lot of reps. But we should have someone else like he and doerue.. you know, someone wild and unrealistic like another Markell Jones or DJ Knox type. I don’t even want brohm gone but 5 years and you can’t have Horvath, Doerue AND Markell Jones?
I didn't mean to make this the Horvath thread with my original comment, I'm just a fan of his & thought the Minny blog preview sold him short a bit.
It really depends. If it comes at the expense of allowing the defense to widen out and sit back on the WRs and Durham, those yards are too expensive.
