Anything to try to establish a false equivalency between the two teams over the last 10-20 years. with the number of stars ⭐️ they’ve had come through in comparison to Purdue but lack of success speaks to the brokenness of their program over that time period don’t you think?🤔
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Agreed. All I said was Iu has always recruited well. Results of been below average.
A total shocker! Painter uses the 3 spot to have a third guard on the court. And another player who wants to play small forward goes elsewhere !
I also said players who consider themselves one and done type of players Will not want to come to Purdue because painter refused to guarantee they will start. And they don’t want to come off the bench for the next two years.
Smith and Loyer have another 2 years as boilers. No one and done player who plays guard is going to want to come to Purdue. And no one and done aa
Its not about the nil. It’s about the opportunity to start and be a star as a freshman. That wasn’t going to happen at Purdue.
I also said players who consider themselves one and done type of players Will not want to come to Purdue because painter refused to guarantee they will start. And they don’t want to come off the bench for the next two years.
Smith and Loyer have another 2 years as boilers. No one and done player who plays guard is going to want to come to Purdue. And no one and done aa
Its not about the nil. It’s about the opportunity to start and be a star as a freshman. That wasn’t going to happen at Purdue.
A nightmare? Eh. Archies years kinda were. But I don't ever set my expectations too high. I had high expectations in 2015-2016 and it ended well enough. I had some high hopes for Romeos freshman year but.. Archie. It's just been all expected really outside of that. At least from me. I can't speak for the fan base as a whole.
Indinia fans are the champions at revisionist history.
What the heck are you talking about? Sisley said Purdue would use him the same as Edwards and Hummel who were used as a 3 at times… Sisley actually said in his acceptance that he will play the 3 or 4 at iu whatever they need, that is in contrast to your narrative that he only wants to play the 3. He and his family have been die hard indiana fans and he lives near there. That’s his punchline that he is staying home.
As for Haralson stop pretending you know anything more about him. It’s been widely reported here Haralson was not even being recruited anymore. There was som optimism his relationship with coach and a F4 might change his mind. How about you show your prediction he was going to ND because that would have been a bold prediction.
Kinda?! in his 4 years he never finished above top 6 and never made a tournament. So, your expectations are higher for Purdue than your own program? That tells me enough about the feeling you have between the 2 programs, why you are here, and its far apart.
Thanks for the clarification.
IU got Sisley, but it is not looking good for them getting some inside help for next year! If Reneau leaves early, IU has no PF or Centers on the roster! Makes no sense for Woodson to be heavily recruiting guards when their need is for bigs! His roster management is a problem!
I think Reneau is back…or he transfers back home to Miami finally.
IF Woodson is still around, he can just play the portal and pay guys to come to IU.
Is that supposed to be some awful thing? I have higher expectations for Duke, UConn, UNC, Kentucky and Kansas as well. It's just where the programs have been. Expectations this year? 20+ wins and Top 5 B1G finish. Should be achievable. If Woody can't, he will probably be shown the door.
And I would imagine the most likely heir apparent at IU would be Micah Shrewsbury (if he has a good year this year).
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lol—no. But Micah hangs out with Stevens so that’s as close as it’s going to get.
There is a good chance of that. Being able to land Haralson, especially at Notre Dame is pretty big.
Hell yes. Teri Moren is worshipped as IU head women’s coach. Micah is from Indy and played at Hanover College. He’d be all about the IU job when Woody packs it in.
How he does there and I'd say how Dusty performs at Michigan will be closely watched.
Unless someone else scoops him up first.
I cannot imagine that Dusty May will leave Michigan after a few years if things go well for him.
But Micah Shrewsbury? ND Basketball cannot be his vision for career pinnacle.
Why would he “be all about the IU job”? What makes you think that?
It's a Purdue message board. If I answer honestly it'll just start an insult-fest and I'm not going to knowingly going to start an insult-fest on your basketball board. If a Purdue fan that agrees wants to answer, that'd be more appropriate.
I thought we weren't supposed to discuss recruits and should only discuss current players.
With the talent and experience they have assembled, those are very low expectations. You are hoping for something that would be considered a down year for Purdue by most fans.
I think many IU fans feel that the IU basketball program is a sleeping giant. I’ve heard that quite a bit from IU fans. The only problem is I’ve been hearing it for 25 years now and I’m not sure it’s accurate. We should find out now however as IU is spending as much as anyone else in the nation to buy talent. If this doesn’t work I think the chances of IU being what it was under knight are slim to none.
Agreed.
24+ wins and 14 Big Ten wins, wherever that puts them in league standings, is acceptable. In TJD's senior year IU finished 2nd in the Big Ten but was 12-8 - in an 18 team league I'm not sure where 14-6 would put a team like IU or Purdue, but that would be a damn fine record to meet or exceed.
Exactly. They can't comprehend that RMK is gone and those years are considered the past.
I've heard everything from "we were the tops at spending money in recruiting" and now it's "we have the most NIL money". You guys think that your spending will eventually equate to wins and that hasn't happened.
Resources, name recognition, huge fan base, huge alumni base, and fan interest even when the team is meh.
Sleeping? Yes for sure.
But sleeping giant? Yes. No exact comparables but along the lines of U Florida, Nebraska, or Tennessee football, or Arkansas or UL basketball. And money has influenced college basketball forever. The difference is that it is now legal, which is a massive advantage for a school like IU that didn't pay to a laughable extent, but now can flex it's monetary muscles.
Imagine this. Purdue has been that record or very close 9 out of the last 10 years. That has led us to 4 B1G championships and 13 tournament victories.
This is exactly why we see you guys as a "joke" program. Your fan base is in denial.
Claiming something you haven't been in a very long time. I used to bench 400lbs, but I've gotten older and realize it's not going to happen anymore.... understand?
It's actually four Big Ten championships in the past eight years. No one is denying that Purdue bball has had a very good ten years.
So I cited that IU has:
- Resources (aka, money)
- Name recognition,
- A huge fan base,
- A huge alumni base, and
- Fan interest even when the team is meh.
Crazy that if they had lost one more game in the B1G they would have been 8th.
Those dynamics do exist but I think you are missing the main thing, which is culture. The culture at IU sucks and has for a couple of decades now. Look at Purdue and you will see that culture is the main thing Painter has built and strives to continue improving upon.
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