Tournament Odds
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I think 2 more. But who knows. If it's close, I don't expect to catch any breaks.
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This is what bothers me about Purdue fans. It's always someone else's fault or us getting screwed.
Purdue's BIGGEST argument for being in the NCAA Tournament is that you can forget about our non-conference season, look at our ENTIRE Big Ten season. Purdue played like the non-conference Purdue tonight. You can't put doubt in the committee's mind when your biggest selling point is your current team vs. former team.
Tonight, the current team looks like the former team we're arguing that we aren't.
Purdue's BIGGEST argument for being in the NCAA Tournament is that you can forget about our non-conference season, look at our ENTIRE Big Ten season. Purdue played like the non-conference Purdue tonight. You can't put doubt in the committee's mind when your biggest selling point is your current team vs. former team.
Tonight, the current team looks like the former team we're arguing that we aren't.
........and why do you think they played like that tonight, certainly they looked ok in the first half up by 9...........then the circus started, sorry but there was no way they were going to win this game
Well said. Had the Boilers came out to start the second half with the intensity and fight they showed the last three minutes we wouldn't be discussing in or out of the NCAA's.
Way too determined to play through the post. I love the big buys but in basketball need jump shooters and scorers
Uh, well they gave up 2 transition 3s. That's part of losing a 9 point lead. And in the process, Hammons committed a flagrant foul at half court.
That's why we lost a 9 point lead.
And then in the second half, we played timid and didn't show up wanting to win.
Complain all you want about the refs - AJ had 2 fouls in the game, 1 of them a flagrant at half court. He didn't have a single foul in the 2nd half. I don't want the guy to get in foul trouble, but he wasn't remotely physical. The most physical he got the entire game was the damn flagrant foul in transition defense .
That's why we lost a 9 point lead.
And then in the second half, we played timid and didn't show up wanting to win.
Complain all you want about the refs - AJ had 2 fouls in the game, 1 of them a flagrant at half court. He didn't have a single foul in the 2nd half. I don't want the guy to get in foul trouble, but he wasn't remotely physical. The most physical he got the entire game was the damn flagrant foul in transition defense .
Before the IU game in Broomington (pun intended), everyone was saying "win 1 of the 3 remaining home games and we'll be fine." Well...we did. What's changed? Winning at IU is less impressive because they're tanking?
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I wouldn't say "fine," but decent shape. I was one that thought 12-6 should be enough.
Two things, Iowa was not looking good, but they righted things....and Indiana stumbling is a two-edge sword....it could help Purdue in some ways and hurt Purdue in other ways. Also, there are still the other conference tournaments, which could affect the so-called "bubble" teams getting bids. There are just so many other games that can affect some of the metrics (both good and bad), you can't always keep track of them. Without a good showing in the BTT.....getting to the semis at least, Purdue could, and I emphasize "could" be sweating it out. A loss to Illinois, and I don't think Purdue has much of a chance without getting to the BTT final.
The non-conference numbers are just THAT bad, and there's no way to avoid it.
Of course, I could be totally wrong, but it's interesting to speculate.
The Illinois game will be the most important game that Purdue has played since Purdue lost to Kansas in Robbie Hummel's last game.
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Right now, I'd say 50-50.
Beat Illinois, I think that takes a huge jump to about 75-25 that we get in (something magical about have "20" wins). Win another game in the BTT, and I think the odds would be more like 90-10. If we lose out, I'd say we're at less than a 25% chance to get in. We're kind of at a volatile point now. This is where (stop reading now if you don't want to hear laments about the non-conference season
) those bad losses to GWU and NFU are killers. Not that those two wins would really help RPI or SOS ratings, but they would certainly make things look better, "on paper".
Either way, this team totally turned this thing around after December. I had serious doubts that Painter should remain coach at that point, but I think he's proven me wrong once again. Beat Illinois, do some damage in the BTT and get to at least the 2nd round in the NCAAT, and come back next year and challenge for the Big Ten Title - that's what I'd like to see.
Beat Illinois, I think that takes a huge jump to about 75-25 that we get in (something magical about have "20" wins). Win another game in the BTT, and I think the odds would be more like 90-10. If we lose out, I'd say we're at less than a 25% chance to get in. We're kind of at a volatile point now. This is where (stop reading now if you don't want to hear laments about the non-conference season
) those bad losses to GWU and NFU are killers. Not that those two wins would really help RPI or SOS ratings, but they would certainly make things look better, "on paper".Either way, this team totally turned this thing around after December. I had serious doubts that Painter should remain coach at that point, but I think he's proven me wrong once again
. Beat Illinois, do some damage in the BTT and get to at least the 2nd round in the NCAAT, and come back next year and challenge for the Big Ten Title - that's what I'd like to see.
I think you mean "win 1 of the 3 remaining ROAD games and we'll be fine."
I agree. After we won @ RUTG, and were coming into the final six games of the season, I seem to remember the mantra being "win the three home games, and steal one of the three on the road (IU, tOSU, MSU), and we will be golden. If we beat ILL Sat we will have accomplished this.
However with IU tanking, and tOSU & IA, playing well, that may have changed.
I agree Bodel. Purdue had a 12 pt lead halftime at Ohio State. If they don't get in will be a lesson learned for these players. No whining if they don't get in the tourney. Losing to N. Florida and that Grantland team in December... The Minnesota game on the road, Ohio State on road, 9 PT lead at MSU and Haas missed TWO one & one's. Not blaming one player but Purdue lost the MSU game right there blowing a 9 pt lead late in 1st half when Haas could have given Purdue a double digit lead.
I understand it's hard winning on road. But these players by playing subpar ball in non conference put the onus on winning tough games on the road in Big 10. How many chances do you want? Illinois no gimmee. I think if Purdue beats Illinois they will likely be in. Beat Illinois and one Big 10 conference game most likely puts them in. But really lets be honest looking at a 11 seed. Not like they will do big time damage in NCAA.
I understand it's hard winning on road. But these players by playing subpar ball in non conference put the onus on winning tough games on the road in Big 10. How many chances do you want? Illinois no gimmee. I think if Purdue beats Illinois they will likely be in. Beat Illinois and one Big 10 conference game most likely puts them in. But really lets be honest looking at a 11 seed. Not like they will do big time damage in NCAA.
We can do damage as an 11 seed (assuming not a play-in 11).
I like this spot much better than 7,8,9,or 10 seeds where you have to play a 1 or a 2 seed if you win.
I like this spot much better than 7,8,9,or 10 seeds where you have to play a 1 or a 2 seed if you win.
I think beating Illinois seals a berth, even with a whiff in the B1G Tourney. Regardless of Lunardi's and others' mock brackets, beating Illinois puts Purdue at 20 wins, 12-6 in B1G. It's hard for me to imagine that not getting it done. How many times has a 20-win team finishing top 4 in this conference not made the tournament? On top of that, this is considered to be a weak year for bubble competition.
Not saying it would happen by any means, but the 6-11 line can be a path to advance with the right match-up and an upset. The #3-seed would be the likely opponent to advance to the Regional.
I shouldn't have to remind many Purdue followers who the #11 seed was in 2011 in Purdue's bracket in the Southwest Regional.
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