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Tom reporting Walters likely to return…

The complain-about-things-we-cant-control-so-we-can-excuse-the-problem-we-were-wrong-about folks here are like clockwork. Predictable, and like clockwork.
 
The DEI nonsense is not surprising from folks here. Sad, but not surprising.
I’m not one to push the narrative but I’ve noticed something here on the board that I won’t share publicly. I’ll just say in places where certain things and people get mentioned the posts disappear if the discussion doesn’t take off and get big enough to where people would notice edits. It’s especially aggressive immediately after losses…

Me thinks “big brother” is watching and under strict command to control narratives here in exchange for continued access to the programs.

Overall, I don’t think Walters was a DEI hire. He earned a shot. The question I would ask is that if he’s retained…he’s wasted his shot and proved he doesn’t belong…so why is he still here outside of everybody simply waiting on a miracle n his tenure that’s never going to come?

Is it a Black AAD who is in charge of diversity keeping him around for diversity’s sake? And if so…why? That’s poor leadership to the max.
 
Lol yeah, a few posters mock the idea relentlessly. Because they think all you need is new coach. No extra money for coaches or recruits or portal players, just git gud coach.
So after two seasons, who is comfortable at throwing $11 million at Purdue Football and allowing CRW to hire new assistant coaches and correctly evaluate portal talent...?
 
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So after two seasons, who is comfortable at throwing $11 million at Purdue Football and allowing CRW to hire new assistant coaches and correctly evaluate portal talent...?
You know that is a good point. Regardless of what happens, there is a host of new assistants coming in.. that you're paying for anyway.. why not do all of that under a new coach?
 
Really sad if Bobinski dumps this mess on someone else. Total lack of accountability
Not at all. Bobo isn’t sticking his replacement with a bigger dumpster fire. Which would be a $9 payout and a replacement you didn’t pick with a full contract. Keep Walters and bring in a new AD next year before football starts. Walters will be gone 4-5 games into the season.
 
Not at all. Bobo isn’t sticking his replacement with a bigger dumpster fire. Which would be a $9 payout and a replacement you didn’t pick with a full contract. Keep Walters and bring in a new AD next year before football starts. Walters will be gone 4-5 games into the season.
I’m just glad Mbob is flushing a year of football so things can happen on HIS timeline.
 
BoBo has done an awesome job with the other sports at Purdue.

I still believe the sole reason that Walters has not been fired is because none of YOU that have complained about him have ponied up the $10 million to replace him.

You want a new coach. To get a new coach, you will need to find the money for Walters buyout and the new coach Will want more money than Walters if you expect him to bring Purdue back to mediocrity.

WHICH one of YOU that wants Walters fired is willing to put your money where your mouth is? I can hear crickets chirping.

On a plus side, Walters has faced 4 schools ranked in the top 5 this year and faced a top 25 Illinois and a top 10 IU. Would any coach have been able to win those games? The sad part is the schedule isn’t going to get any easier going forward as we look to having teams like USC and Washington on our schedule. The BIG10 didn’t do Purdue any favors with their last 4 additions.

I truly believe Purdue just doesn’t have the money to buy out Walters. They earmarked too much of that revenue for facility upgrades. Purdue is asking alumni to pony up for the NIL and now asking for more money to replace the coach? Sorry. There is just so much money alumni are willing to give.

You keep talking about the new Big10 network revenue. But you have no idea how much of that money has already been earmarked for other expenditures. You moan and complain Purdue gives out so little NIL money. Is it possible that’s because Purdue just doesn’t have the money to give?

Who here gives Purdue $1 million a year? That is the person who has a right to complain. If you don’t give, then accept the product you are given
 
BoBo has done an awesome job with the other sports at Purdue.

I still believe the sole reason that Walters has not been fired is because none of YOU that have complained about him have ponied up the $10 million to replace him.

You want a new coach. To get a new coach, you will need to find the money for Walters buyout and the new coach Will want more money than Walters if you expect him to bring Purdue back to mediocrity.

WHICH one of YOU that wants Walters fired is willing to put your money where your mouth is? I can hear crickets chirping.

On a plus side, Walters has faced 4 schools ranked in the top 5 this year and faced a top 25 Illinois and a top 10 IU. Would any coach have been able to win those games? The sad part is the schedule isn’t going to get any easier going forward as we look to having teams like USC and Washington on our schedule. The BIG10 didn’t do Purdue any favors with their last 4 additions.

I truly believe Purdue just doesn’t have the money to buy out Walters. They earmarked too much of that revenue for facility upgrades. Purdue is asking alumni to pony up for the NIL and now asking for more money to replace the coach? Sorry. There is just so much money alumni are willing to give.

You keep talking about the new Big10 network revenue. But you have no idea how much of that money has already been earmarked for other expenditures. You moan and complain Purdue gives out so little NIL money. Is it possible that’s because Purdue just doesn’t have the money to give?

Who here gives Purdue $1 million a year? That is the person who has a right to complain. If you don’t give, then accept the product you are given
Take your meds.

Every single one of us that has spent money going to games, donating, buying Purdue gear has already put funds toward NIL/coaches salaries/etc. as that is literally how it works.

But with you not being a Purdue fan, you don't get it.
 
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I’m not one to push the narrative but I’ve noticed something here on the board that I won’t share publicly. I’ll just say in places where certain things and people get mentioned the posts disappear if the discussion doesn’t take off and get big enough to where people would notice edits. It’s especially aggressive immediately after losses…

Me thinks “big brother” is watching and under strict command to control narratives here in exchange for continued access to the programs.

Overall, I don’t think Walters was a DEI hire. He earned a shot. The question I would ask is that if he’s retained…he’s wasted his shot and proved he doesn’t belong…so why is he still here outside of everybody simply waiting on a miracle n his tenure that’s never going to come?

Is it a Black AAD who is in charge of diversity keeping him around for diversity’s sake? And if so…why? That’s poor leadership to the max.
Walters isnt up to the task. Your question is a great one...why is he here right now when he should have been let go during the bye. Its even more eggregious if tom is correct and he gets another year if the powers that be use wins and losses as their main kpi. If its not wins and losses is it money, pride, or something else? I really dont know and i doubt a straight answer is ever given but they are setting the program back by years by this decision. We have to build the team with solid recruiting. We dont have the cash or desire to invest to make a huge splash in the nil world. We are hemorraging recruits left and right and nobody will tske walters serious on the recruiting front going forward. To your point.....why? Whats more important than having a competitive football program from an athletic department viewpoint.
 
BoBo has done an awesome job with the other sports at Purdue.

I still believe the sole reason that Walters has not been fired is because none of YOU that have complained about him have ponied up the $10 million to replace him.

You want a new coach. To get a new coach, you will need to find the money for Walters buyout and the new coach Will want more money than Walters if you expect him to bring Purdue back to mediocrity.

WHICH one of YOU that wants Walters fired is willing to put your money where your mouth is? I can hear crickets chirping.

On a plus side, Walters has faced 4 schools ranked in the top 5 this year and faced a top 25 Illinois and a top 10 IU. Would any coach have been able to win those games? The sad part is the schedule isn’t going to get any easier going forward as we look to having teams like USC and Washington on our schedule. The BIG10 didn’t do Purdue any favors with their last 4 additions.

I truly believe Purdue just doesn’t have the money to buy out Walters. They earmarked too much of that revenue for facility upgrades. Purdue is asking alumni to pony up for the NIL and now asking for more money to replace the coach? Sorry. There is just so much money alumni are willing to give.

You keep talking about the new Big10 network revenue. But you have no idea how much of that money has already been earmarked for other expenditures. You moan and complain Purdue gives out so little NIL money. Is it possible that’s because Purdue just doesn’t have the money to give?

Who here gives Purdue $1 million a year? That is the person who has a right to complain. If you don’t give, then accept the product you are given
Blaming alumni and fans because bobo made a horrendous hire then allocated too much money elsewhere to get rid of the horrendous hire is a strange take. Every bit of the problems you identified in your post are on bobo. I was shocked to see the attendance and fan interaction for this team during the season. Its been far worse with much better product in the past. Maybe some of that is due to the basketball success last year but come on. Walters is sinking the program and something needs done now.
 
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The complain-about-things-we-cant-control-so-we-can-excuse-the-problem-we-were-wrong-about folks here are like clockwork. Predictable, and like clockwork.
Hard to follow your elongated compound adjective. Who was wrong about a problem here, and what was the problem?
 
Take your meds.

Every single one of us that has spent money going to games, donating, buying Purdue gear has already put funds toward NIL/coaches salaries/etc. as that is literally how it works.

But with you not being a Purdue fan, you don't get it.
I’m a Purdue fan! And you are just an internet bully who lives to call others names!

Wow !!!! you bought a shirt! Wow that went a long way to supporting the NIL

Get real!

One person buying a $20 tshirt is not going to cover the cost of buying a coach out!

Face it. Rather than admitting reality, you’d rather just complain, point fingers and bad mouth others!

You have no solutions of ideas other than firing people! Firing people has proven in the real world to not really be very effective! Look at FORD, GM, Chrysler. And Sears! Firing the GM really worked Turing those companies around! Look at the Jets. They fired the Qb, then the coach, then the GM. That hasn’t worked so who’s next? The owner?

Let’s face it, you don’t come to this board to talk about football. You just come here to read my posts and argue with them. You don’t even put me on ignore. Why? Because you love my posts and look forward to them do you can yell at someone besides your wife. I provide you the entertainment you seek much like reading the comics. You want me to leave but you talk about me when I do!

BBG I own you !
 
Take your meds.

Every single one of us that has spent money going to games, donating, buying Purdue gear has already put funds toward NIL/coaches salaries/etc. as that is literally how it works.

But with you not being a Purdue fan, you don't get it.
Woleblab is the most narcissistic, insecure, “hey look at me” poster I’ve ever seen on a forum…what a nut job.
 
Woleblab is the most narcissistic, insecure, “hey look at me” poster I’ve ever seen on a forum…what a nut job.
No kidding. He has tried to make threads that weren't remotely about him ... all about him ... more than anyone else in history on here. It's not a healthy thing to do either and screams of extreme loneliness.
 
BoBo has done an awesome job with the other sports at Purdue.

I still believe the sole reason that Walters has not been fired is because none of YOU that have complained about him have ponied up the $10 million to replace him.

You want a new coach. To get a new coach, you will need to find the money for Walters buyout and the new coach Will want more money than Walters if you expect him to bring Purdue back to mediocrity.

WHICH one of YOU that wants Walters fired is willing to put your money where your mouth is? I can hear crickets chirping.

On a plus side, Walters has faced 4 schools ranked in the top 5 this year and faced a top 25 Illinois and a top 10 IU. Would any coach have been able to win those games? The sad part is the schedule isn’t going to get any easier going forward as we look to having teams like USC and Washington on our schedule. The BIG10 didn’t do Purdue any favors with their last 4 additions.

I truly believe Purdue just doesn’t have the money to buy out Walters. They earmarked too much of that revenue for facility upgrades. Purdue is asking alumni to pony up for the NIL and now asking for more money to replace the coach? Sorry. There is just so much money alumni are willing to give.

You keep talking about the new Big10 network revenue. But you have no idea how much of that money has already been earmarked for other expenditures. You moan and complain Purdue gives out so little NIL money. Is it possible that’s because Purdue just doesn’t have the money to give?

Who here gives Purdue $1 million a year? That is the person who has a right to complain. If you don’t give, then accept the product you are given

Purdue doesn't need up-front donor money to buy out a football coach, as long as they hire the right replacement.

IU paid $15.5 million to buy out Tom Allen.
  • The buyout was originally $20 million - they negotiated it down to $15.5 million.
  • They financed the remainder over 30 years. With interest on the financing? That's about $750k a year X 30 years.
  • Buyouts contain 'must look for employment' clauses.
    • Future employment offsets the buyout total. Walters is young; he will get a job somewhere. If he makes $250k a year? The net buyout cost is now down to $500k a year.
  • IU sold and will continue to sell about 20,000 more seats for each home game this year and next year than they did during Allen's tenure. If face value average is only $50.00 (it's more than that), that's $1 million per home game additional revenue just on tickets.
    • Revenue has also been greatly increased for concessions, parking, local businesses, and most importantly, booster donations; all because the team is worth watching.
    • Because they are winning, IU was able to substantially raise ticket prices for next year.
So, it costs IU about $500,000 a year for the right to not have Tom Allen as coach; that's a drop in the bucket in the $10-15 million per year for Cignetti, staff, and to run the program. And revenue from football has increased far, far more than $15 million per year, all because they hired Curt Cignetti and staff.

Again, all of this is contingent on replacing the fired coach with someone really good, and making a commitment to invest in football facilities, NIL, and the entire staff; not just the head coach. Otherwise, you're paying a big buyout without any of the potential benefits.

For IU? The athletic department fronted the buyout money and it has been an actuarial dream come true for both the university and the community.
 
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Walters isnt up to the task. Your question is a great one...why is he here right now when he should have been let go during the bye. Its even more eggregious if tom is correct and he gets another year if the powers that be use wins and losses as their main kpi. If its not wins and losses is it money, pride, or something else? I really dont know and i doubt a straight answer is ever given but they are setting the program back by years by this decision. We have to build the team with solid recruiting. We dont have the cash or desire to invest to make a huge splash in the nil world. We are hemorraging recruits left and right and nobody will tske walters serious on the recruiting front going forward. To your point.....why? Whats more important than having a competitive football program from an athletic department viewpoint.
Completely correct.
What is the measure for success next year, because after a likely 1-11 season, the bar is incredibly low. And, if it is W/L record, does going 3-9 next year (beating a couple crappy teams and maybe winning 1 B10 game) show progress?
The fact that we were getting blown out consistently and not even competitive in many games is the biggest KPI of a coach.
 
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