Third whistleblower?

[Bethboilerfan]

According to The Washington Post, a third whistleblower has come forward alleging that a political appointee at the Treasury Departent used "inappropriate efforts to influence" the agency's audit of Trump's tax returns. The House Ways and Means Committee is looking into the allegations according to a court filing from the committee.

See also: https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...ria-ukraine-whistleblower-impeachment-2019-10

 

[Bill4411]

According to The Washington Post, a third whistleblower has come forward alleging that a political appointee at the Treasury Departent used "inappropriate efforts to influence" the agency's audit of Trump's tax returns. The House Ways and Means Committee is looking into the allegations according to a court filing from the committee.

See also: https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...ria-ukraine-whistleblower-impeachment-2019-10

One thing for sure the Pub's need to get rid of the whistleblower law mucho pronto with a standard bearer like Trump.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

According to The Washington Post, a third whistleblower has come forward alleging that a political appointee at the Treasury Departent used "inappropriate efforts to influence" the agency's audit of Trump's tax returns. The House Ways and Means Committee is looking into the allegations according to a court filing from the committee.

See also: https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...ria-ukraine-whistleblower-impeachment-2019-10

How many were used in the Russian hoax...how many came forward. There will be more, and more, and more...bought and paid for. And not a one heard anything personally.

 

[indy35]

How many were used in the Russian hoax...how many came forward. There will be more, and more, and more...bought and paid for. And not a one heard anything personally.

Thanks for once again showing your complete detachment from reality.

 

[Bethboilerfan]

How many were used in the Russian hoax...how many came forward. There will be more, and more, and more...bought and paid for. And not a one heard anything personally.

Twin: The second whistleblower claims first hand knowledge. I did not see what/where/when on the third whistleblower in any of the articles that I read. Also, I have not seen anywhere that any were “bought and paid for” so that is a totally new accusation. Could you direct me to where you are getting your information? Thanks

 

[doubleyous]

Twin: The second whistleblower claims first hand knowledge. I did not see what/where/when on the third whistleblower in any of the articles that I read. Also, I have not seen anywhere that any were “bought and paid for” so that is a totally new accusation. Could you direct me to where you are getting your information? Thanks

Bbf, ...Twin can indeed " direct (you) " to the place he is getting his information:

Head to the closest airport...buy a round-trip ticket to Orlando.
Tell the Orlando cab driver to head to Disney World.
After entering, get yourself the Map.
Head on over to Fantasyland.
You found it.

 

[M51]

How many were used in the Russian hoax...how many came forward. There will be more, and more, and more...bought and paid for. And not a one heard anything personally.

The Washington Post could not verify this allegation. Looks like we are now going to have never ending whistleblower complaints against Trump. Russian collusion did not work, let’s try whistleblower complaints.

Speaking of Russian collusion, when is snake in the grass Adam Shift going to present his direct evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians.

Hope all you socialist loving Dems enjoy the massive tax increase, government control, loss of constitutional rights that the presidential candidates are proposing.

 

[doubleyous]

The Washington Post could not verify this allegation. Looks like we are now going to have never ending whistleblower complaints against Trump. Russian collusion did not work, let’s try whistleblower complaints.

Speaking of Russian collusion, when is snake in the grass Adam Shift going to present his direct evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians.

Hope all you socialist loving Dems enjoy the massive tax increase, government control, loss of constitutional rights that the presidential candidates are proposing.

Oh yeah,....if the Dem.'s win in 2020 , this country will just be a bigger version of SOMALIA by 2025......
The Impeachment Inquiry, incidentally, won't even need a SINGLE whistleblower after the steady stream of government officials testify to House investigators, as has already begun...

 

[TwinDegrees2]

The Washington Post could not verify this allegation. Looks like we are now going to have never ending whistleblower complaints against Trump. Russian collusion did not work, let’s try whistleblower complaints.

Speaking of Russian collusion, when is snake in the grass Adam Shift going to present his direct evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians.

Hope all you socialist loving Dems enjoy the massive tax increase, government control, loss of constitutional rights that the presidential candidates are proposing.

Remember when it all started it was women coming forward...that went no where, and no pun intended Stormy didn't stick. Then, it was Russian collusion and $32,000,000 and two years of brow beating the taxpayers...nada. Zip. Zero. Now, it's more made up lies, untruth's, and innuendo's with, "Well, I didn't hear it, but a friend of a friend's third cousin said Trump did something wrong with a phone call." I think we need to start a pool of what the libs are going to promote and lie about next. I can only hope terminal jock itch for lil' Adam, and denture lock up for Pelosi.

 

[doubleyous]

Remember when it all started it was women coming forward...that went no where, and no pun intended Stormy didn't stick. Then, it was Russian collusion and $32,000,000 and two years of brow beating the taxpayers...nada. Zip. Zero. Now, it's more made up lies, untruth's, and innuendo's with, "Well, I didn't hear it, but a friend of a friend's third cousin said Trump did something wrong with a phone call." I think we need to start a pool of what the libs are going to promote and lie about next. I can only hope terminal jock itch for lil' Adam, and denture lock up for Pelosi.

1)" Stormy didn't STICK " ???!!! The pathological liar himself denied the pornstar encounter until the Southern District of New York's investigators came up with his buddy Michael Cohen's confirmation and the copy of the $ 140,000 CHECK, fool !!! All on nightly news for weeks. Nice look. Ask Melania.
2) " Brow-beating the taxpayers" for the Mueller Investigation costs ?? What'd they do ? Go door-to-door begging for the 32 million that the DOJ would automatically pick up ?? Fool.
3) Didja like Trump's move to sit several of Bill's "acquaintances" in the front row of the Hillary/Trump debates , in 2016 ?? Maybe they'll line up ALL TWENTY-PLUS of Donny's accusers in the front row of next October debates. You're good on that ??
4) your "friend of a third cousin" characterization might fall a little short of the stream of government officials and officeholders who have, and will continue to, put in testimony to House investigators. They're all under oath and have the personal integrity to tell truth about the Trump cartoon show. Lil' Adam is nobody to (screw) with. Maybe the incomparable legal genius of Rudy G. can help. Well....as long as he doesn't wind up under federal indictment, of course.

Got any other pipe dreams to share with us, Twin ??

 

[Bethboilerfan]

Twin: There have definitely been changes from the information about the Ukraine phone call. According to the latest Gallup poll: Support for Impeachment moved from 45% in June to 52% in October. Independents are now at 55% supporting impeachment.

 

[SDBoiler1]

Twin: There have definitely been changes from the information about the Ukraine phone call. According to the latest Gallup poll: Support for Impeachment moved from 45% in June to 52% in October. Independents are now at 55% supporting impeachment.

Oh yes, a poll of 1,526 people is absolute proof that America wants impeachment now.

"The latest Gallup poll surveyed 1,526 adults via telephone interviews on Oct. 1-13. The adults lived in all 50 U.S. states and Washington, D.C. The margin of sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points for the poll with a confidence level of 95 percent."

 

[BleedinGold]

Oh yes, a poll of 1,526 people is absolute proof that America wants impeachment now.

"The latest Gallup poll surveyed 1,526 adults via telephone interviews on Oct. 1-13. The adults lived in all 50 U.S. states and Washington, D.C. The margin of sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points for the poll with a confidence level of 95 percent."

Well someone doesn't know how statistics work....

 

[TwinDegrees2]

Oh yes, a poll of 1,526 people is absolute proof that America wants impeachment now.

"The latest Gallup poll surveyed 1,526 adults via telephone interviews on Oct. 1-13. The adults lived in all 50 U.S. states and Washington, D.C. The margin of sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points for the poll with a confidence level of 95 percent."

And....we all know how well statistics worked the last Presidential election don't we.

 

[doubleyous]

And....we all know how well statistics worked the last Presidential election don't we.

Polling science and statistical analyses = methods used by educated humans
Twin Degrees = horoscopes and Ouija Boards

 

[BleedinGold]

And....we all know how well statistics worked the last Presidential election don't we.

This has been discussed on this board already and debunked.

I'd link you to that thread but I think you could use the practice on how to properly research a topic.

I won't hold my breath.

 

[SDBoiler1]

Well someone doesn't know how statistics work....

Uh, no. I've taken 3 statistics courses (1 undergrad, 2 grad) in college. I don't think you understand stats.

The poll is totally dependent on the sample. And as was seen in 2016, the samples used in almost all polls for the Presidential election were skewed based on data from 2008 and 2012 in favor of the Ds. They assumed a stronger showing of AAs (based on the "Obama Coalition) than actually was seen in 2016. Hillary Clinton was a flawed candidate.

It isn't clear to me what the demographic/political affiliation basis is for the sample, but I suspect it's skewed more to the left than the actual demographics/affiliations of America, writ large. Does it include only registered voters? In polls, many people refuse to participate.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

Uh, no. I've taken 3 statistics courses (1 undergrad, 2 grad) in college. I don't think you understand stats.

The poll is totally dependent on the sample. And as was seen in 2016, the samples used in almost all polls for the Presidential election were skewed based on data from 2008 and 2012 in favor of the Ds. They assumed a stronger showing of AAs (based on the "Obama Coalition) than actually was seen in 2016. Hillary Clinton was a flawed candidate.

It isn't clear to me what the demographic/political affiliation basis is for the sample, but I suspect it's skewed more to the left than the actual demographics/affiliations of America, writ large. Does it include only registered voters? In polls, many people refuse to participate.

Not to mention that in many...or most polls some folks do not tell the truth. I only had one stat class but I learned enough in that one to understand how they work and what can and does skew the results.

Figures don't lie, but liars can figure. Nice post BTW...but the magic 6 on here won't understand what you said.

 

[doubleyous]

Uh, no. I've taken 3 statistics courses (1 undergrad, 2 grad) in college. I don't think you understand stats.

The poll is totally dependent on the sample. And as was seen in 2016, the samples used in almost all polls for the Presidential election were skewed based on data from 2008 and 2012 in favor of the Ds. They assumed a stronger showing of AAs (based on the "Obama Coalition) than actually was seen in 2016. Hillary Clinton was a flawed candidate.

It isn't clear to me what the demographic/political affiliation basis is for the sample, but I suspect it's skewed more to the left than the actual demographics/affiliations of America, writ large. Does it include only registered voters? In polls, many people refuse to participate.

Thanks again for the thumbnail sketch on political polling.
Polling is indeed dependent on the efficacy of the sampling. Your admitted lack of clarity regarding the sampling involved is common among the great majority of voters. The questions you ask, above, I'm quite sure haven't escaped the scrutiny of those whose OCCUPATION involves maximizing the use of known data and techniques.
The "skewing" you referred to involving the 2016 election (for the 8th time) resulted in a final national polling average of a 4.0 - 5.0 advantage for Clinton, compared to the actual 2.1 that occurred.
Hillary's "flaws" were only slightly inderestimated, as one can see.

 

[doubleyous]

Not to mention that in many...or most polls some folks do not tell the truth. I only had one stat class but I learned enough in that one to understand how they work and what can and does skew the results.

Figures don't lie, but liars can figure. Nice post BTW...but the magic 6 on here won't understand what you said.

The " magic 6 " have not and WILL not have any problem understanding what SD has to say. The chance always remains, of course, that they won't AGREE with what he's saying.
Twin, the problem remains that we most often don't, in fact, understand what YOU'RE trying to say.
The detachment with the concept of reality, I'm afraid, remains a substantial stumbling block in the efforts in comprehension.

 

[70boiler]

People act alternatively like polling is an end all be all omniscient totally accurate prognosticator, when they like the poll result, and like its Voodoo chicken bone throwing, when they don't.
Polls are nothing more than statistical tools. Tools that the owners have an extraordinarily vested interest in attempting to make accurate. The more accurate they are, the more people alternatively subscribe to for access to results or pay to perform the polling process.
Tools are tools.
The most interesting thing to me typically with polls is whether there seems to be some conformity of results with multiple polls, as well as whether repeated polls of the same subject matter seem to portray specific trends.
Public polling information and results, particularly for political purposes, is pretty readily available. Not merely the headlined information but considerably more in depth, that is assuming we bother to care and bother to look for it.
Just to make it easier, let me provide this link to 538's full listing of public polls related to impeachment for the edification of anyone who cares.