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The protests have begun.

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They have been going on for awhile but are now starting to take hold. There's more to come.

Trump isn't going to stand for it. That is, if he can actually understand what's going on.........or we can understand him.

 
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They have been going on for awhile but are now starting to take hold. There's more to come.

Trump isn't going to stand for it. That is, if he can actually understand what's going on.........or we can understand him.

What I see is mostly about 10 fat, blue haired wart hogs yelling incoherently about facism, nazis, Russia, billionaires and Tesla. Their TDS has been in effect since 2016.
 
What I see is mostly about 10 fat, blue haired wart hogs yelling incoherently about facism, nazis, Russia, billionaires and Tesla. Their TDS has been in effect since 2016.
Yeah, large, organized protests across the country are irrelevant. It's all just TDS. Please ignore.
 
a bit about tariffs, by none other than VDH...and asks the question how these countries seem to be doing fine with tariffs

Your boy, Thomas Sowell ain't no fan of these jacked up tariffs. Finally, staying in his lane and talk economics.
 
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Elite. 13 billionaires in trumps administration. I don't know if your definition of elite includes having billions and living that lifestyle. It does for me.

Take a look at a party at Mara and tell me those people don't think they're elite.

Trump is gonna find a little globalism isn't a bad thing.
How do you define 'globalism'? The US pays for the defense of wealthy countries?
 
Wait… Thomas Sowell isn’t your go to guy anymore?

Oh yeah; anyone that calls out Trump awfulness gets excommunicated from the MAGDA family.
Unlike the plantation party, repubs have internal differences of opinion. If you calm down from your hysteria, you can see it in the Signal transcript between Vance and some of the others.
 
Unlike the plantation party, repubs have internal differences of opinion. If you calm down from your hysteria, you can see it in the Signal transcript between Vance and some of the others.
I was NOT responding to you.

Stop implying that @tjreese is not capable of answering for himself.
 
Suggest you take a hysteria break for the rest of the evening to rest up for tomorrow.
Why on earth would you think I am hysterical?

Why on earth would anyone refuse to acknowledge the complete incompetence of Donald Trump?

You should calm down and acknowledge that Trump is a failure.

Do that now.
 
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Your boy, Thomas Sowell ain't no fan of these jacked up tariffs. Finally, staying in his lane and talk economics.
I was sent that the other day and then I saw something a bit contradictory that did not appear to be by Thomas. I would never call Thomas my "boy", but rather my main man! As Thomas said...we shall see if it works
 
Elite. 13 billionaires in trumps administration. I don't know if your definition of elite includes having billions and living that lifestyle. It does for me.

Take a look at a party at Mara and tell me those people don't think they're elite.

Trump is gonna find a little globalism isn't a bad thing.
I don't believe he has a long term view of isolationism and with that I would hold a different opinion
 
Wait… Thomas Sowell isn’t your go to guy anymore?

Oh yeah; anyone that calls out Trump awfulness gets excommunicated from the MAGDA family.
Thomas is my main man. I'm also a big fan of Victor Davis Hanson. I believe in history as a starting point in a lot of things. That has to be tempered somewhat from time to time with any contributing variables that may change relative to the model. It certainly doesn't mean that old data is bad, because age doesn't make data bad by itself. Thomas said he has concerns and disagrees if this is a 4 year thing, but held back an opinion if not. We shall see. Here is a start-

White House Official Says More Than 50 Countries Reached Out for Tariff Talks

‘They’re doing that because they understand that they bear a lot of the tariff,’ Kevin Hassett said.

A top White House economic adviser said on April 6 that more than 50 countries have contacted the Trump administration to initiate negotiations over a broad swath of tariffs that were announced in the first week of April on nearly every nation in the world.

In an interview with ABC News “This Week,” Kevin Hassett, head of the White House’s National Economic Council, said that “there are more than 50 countries reaching out and trying to negotiate this new status with the president” since the tariffs were announced.

“They’re doing that because they understand that they bear a lot of the tariff,” he told the outlet.

While Hassett did not say which countries have started talks with the administration, President Donald Trump wrote on social media platform Truth Social on April 4 that Vietnam’s top leader said the country would reduce its tariffs on the United States “to zero.”

On April 2, Trump announced a minimum 10 percent tariff on all trading partners, as well as higher levies on about 60 nations—typically half of what each levies against the United States. The higher tariffs are due to take effect on April 9.

Canada and Mexico were exempt from the latest tariffs because they are already subject to tariffs of 25 percent that were announced several weeks ago. Those tariffs were levied in a bid to curb illegal immigration and fentanyl trafficking into the United States via its southern and northern neighbors.

Thai Prime Minister Paetongtarn Shinawatra said Thailand is also willing to enter talks with the United States on the tariffs.

“Thailand has signaled its readiness to discuss with the U.S. government at the first opportunity to adjust the trade balance to be fair to both the parties,” Shinawatra told reporters on April 3, noting that Thailand could become a “friend-shoring” country for the United States.

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer told reporters on April 3 that his country would respond in a “cool and calm” manner, noting that the United States only placed a 10 percent levy on his country, putting the UK in a “better position than a lot of other countries from what was announced.”

Taiwanese President Lai Ching-te on April 6 offered zero tariffs as the basis for talks with the United States, pledging to remove trade barriers rather than imposing reciprocal measures and saying Taiwanese companies would increase their U.S. investments.

Also in the April 6 interview, Hassett said that U.S. economic data have shown that “we just had one of the stronger jobs reports I’ve seen in a long time,” suggesting that the tariffs could be leading to American jobs.

“[The jobs data] was about 50 percent better than markets expected. It’s the second one in a row,” he said. “We’ve created already something like 10,000 auto jobs since President Trump took office, and I just got word—anecdotal word last night that auto plants are adding second shifts in the U.S. in order to respond to these tariffs these days.”

Hassett said that he did not expect a big hit to consumers since exporters were likely to lower prices “because it depends on supply and demand ... elasticity of supply and demand.”

“And again, if you thought consumers are going to pay that tax, then you should be puzzled about why it is that countries are upset about it,” he said.

“The bottom line is that China entered the WTO [World Trade Organization] in 2000. In the 15 years that followed, real incomes declined about $1,200 cumulatively over that time.

“And so, if cheap goods were the answer—if cheap goods were going to make Americans’ real wages, real welfare better off, then real incomes would have gone up over that time. Instead, they went down because wages went down more than prices went down.”
Following the tariff announcement, the Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped a combined 4,000 points on April 3 and April 4. The Nasdaq plunged by 5.82 percentage points, and the S&P 500 also posted a similar decline, dropping by 5.97 percent on April 4.

Reuters contributed to this report.
 
Yes, how do they do it if tariffs are bad? I hope Bob will tell us.
Explaining that is open to anyone...Bob or others! His question is valid and much more worthy of investigation than someone in the media
 
How do you define 'globalism'? The US pays for the defense of wealthy countries?
There are lots of definitions of globalism and lots of different areas of life for each one. To my knowledge, none of those definitions included defense of wealthy countries until MAGA adopted it. It's become the catch all for the things you and yours don't like.
 
Thomas is my main man. I'm also a big fan of Victor Davis Hanson. I believe in history as a starting point in a lot of things. That has to be tempered somewhat from time to time with any contributing variables that may change relative to the model. It certainly doesn't mean that old data is bad, because age doesn't make data bad by itself. Thomas said he has concerns and disagrees if this is a 4 year thing, but held back an opinion if not. We shall see. Here is a start-

White House Official Says More Than 50 Countries Reached Out for Tariff Talks

‘They’re doing that because they understand that they bear a lot of the tariff,’ Kevin Hassett said.

A top White House economic adviser said on April 6 that more than 50 countries have contacted the Trump administration to initiate negotiations over a broad swath of tariffs that were announced in the first week of April on nearly every nation in the world.

In an interview with ABC News “This Week,” Kevin Hassett, head of the White House’s National Economic Council, said that “there are more than 50 countries reaching out and trying to negotiate this new status with the president” since the tariffs were announced.

“They’re doing that because they understand that they bear a lot of the tariff,” he told the outlet.

While Hassett did not say which countries have started talks with the administration, President Donald Trump wrote on social media platform Truth Social on April 4 that Vietnam’s top leader said the country would reduce its tariffs on the United States “to zero.”

On April 2, Trump announced a minimum 10 percent tariff on all trading partners, as well as higher levies on about 60 nations—typically half of what each levies against the United States. The higher tariffs are due to take effect on April 9.

Canada and Mexico were exempt from the latest tariffs because they are already subject to tariffs of 25 percent that were announced several weeks ago. Those tariffs were levied in a bid to curb illegal immigration and fentanyl trafficking into the United States via its southern and northern neighbors.

Thai Prime Minister Paetongtarn Shinawatra said Thailand is also willing to enter talks with the United States on the tariffs.

“Thailand has signaled its readiness to discuss with the U.S. government at the first opportunity to adjust the trade balance to be fair to both the parties,” Shinawatra told reporters on April 3, noting that Thailand could become a “friend-shoring” country for the United States.

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer told reporters on April 3 that his country would respond in a “cool and calm” manner, noting that the United States only placed a 10 percent levy on his country, putting the UK in a “better position than a lot of other countries from what was announced.”

Taiwanese President Lai Ching-te on April 6 offered zero tariffs as the basis for talks with the United States, pledging to remove trade barriers rather than imposing reciprocal measures and saying Taiwanese companies would increase their U.S. investments.

Also in the April 6 interview, Hassett said that U.S. economic data have shown that “we just had one of the stronger jobs reports I’ve seen in a long time,” suggesting that the tariffs could be leading to American jobs.

“[The jobs data] was about 50 percent better than markets expected. It’s the second one in a row,” he said. “We’ve created already something like 10,000 auto jobs since President Trump took office, and I just got word—anecdotal word last night that auto plants are adding second shifts in the U.S. in order to respond to these tariffs these days.”

Hassett said that he did not expect a big hit to consumers since exporters were likely to lower prices “because it depends on supply and demand ... elasticity of supply and demand.”

“And again, if you thought consumers are going to pay that tax, then you should be puzzled about why it is that countries are upset about it,” he said.

“The bottom line is that China entered the WTO [World Trade Organization] in 2000. In the 15 years that followed, real incomes declined about $1,200 cumulatively over that time.

“And so, if cheap goods were the answer—if cheap goods were going to make Americans’ real wages, real welfare better off, then real incomes would have gone up over that time. Instead, they went down because wages went down more than prices went down.”
Following the tariff announcement, the Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped a combined 4,000 points on April 3 and April 4. The Nasdaq plunged by 5.82 percentage points, and the S&P 500 also posted a similar decline, dropping by 5.97 percent on April 4.

Reuters contributed to this report.
If the WH says that more than 50 countries have reached out then I know that is a bold face lie. Chump and his cult do not know what the truth looks like. They are just saying that to try and stop the bleeding.

This is going to be a long, long, long 4 years.
 
Any and everything a Democrat disagrees with results in a protest of some nature. Many result in some type of violence or destruction of someone’s property.
Just like the January 6th insurrection four years ago..............
 
I don't believe he has a long term view of isolationism and with that I would hold a different opinion
That's has nothing to do with my point. Do you do this on purpose?

Republicans calling dems elite when they are the billionaire ruling party makes little sense.
 
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