The more I learn about CBO….

[RossMackey]

The more I like!

Barry Odom's confident. He can out-steak St. Elmo. He will turn Purdue football around — The Indianapolis Star

'If outworking people still exists, Barry Odom will be the guy that outworks you. If it comes down to scheming, he'll be the one out scheming you.'

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My reverse- seared NY Strips and ribeyes crush anything you can get at Morton’s, St. Elmo’s, etc….

 

[ImRonBurgandy?]

The more I like!

Barry Odom's confident. He can out-steak St. Elmo. He will turn Purdue football around — The Indianapolis Star

'If outworking people still exists, Barry Odom will be the guy that outworks you. If it comes down to scheming, he'll be the one out scheming you.'

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My reverse- seared NY Strips and ribeyes crush anything you can get at Morton’s, St. Elmo’s, etc….

39 TDs on a torn ACL his senior year in hs...wow.

 

[BOILERGOLD88]

St. Elmos is over rated. Just like ND.

 

[RossMackey]

St. Elmos is over rated. Just like ND.

A quick marinade in some homemade “ joy juice “ a simple kosher salt/ cracked pepper rub, and a dollop of compound butter after they’re smoked and seared to perfection on my Traeger …:

 

[Dandelion1972]

"ran for 39 touchdowns his senior season on a torn ACL" - how is that even possible? 3 TD's per game? on a bad knee?

OK, whoever made that quote probably didn't read this paragraph carefully:

"Odom finished his high school career as the state leader with 39 touchdowns as he led his Ada team to the state title. All the while, McBroom said he was in awe of how a teenage football star who the community adored and praised and boasted about could stay so grounded."

 

[Hausta01]

I think Barry Odom at least has a floor of Danny Hope, which is miles ahead of Walters/Hazel. He might not be a great fit/coach but he's competent and can succeed with P2 resources to at least a limited extent.

Now that's not a ringing endorsement, but I will (and I think many others here will as well) take that in a heartbeat over the 2024 season.

 

[pboiler18]

I think Barry Odom at least has a floor of Danny Hope, which is miles ahead of Walters/Hazel. He might not be a great fit/coach but he's competent and can succeed with P2 resources to at least a limited extent.

Now that's not a ringing endorsement, but I will (and I think many others here will as well) take that in a heartbeat over the 2024 season.

Meh. I think he’s a good coach and knows how to win. He showed that at UNLV fairly obviously. Now the caveat there is that he won at a resource rich place relative to their conference competition.

Obviously he will never have that here.

That said, a guy who can recruit good players, puts a disciplined team on the field, scheme some advantages and win 5-8 games here should be fairly well lauded by the fans.

Until we invest big donor money (which is wildly unlikely since we don’t have it) this is who we are as a program. That said, I don’t think anybody here would complain after the Hazell and Walters regimes.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Meh. I think he’s a good coach and knows how to win. He showed that at UNLV fairly obviously. Now the caveat there is that he won at a resource rich place relative to their conference competition.

Obviously he will never have that here.

That said, a guy who can recruit good players, puts a disciplined team on the field, scheme some advantages and win 5-8 games here should be fairly well lauded by the fans.

Until we invest big donor money (which is wildly unlikely since we don’t have it) this is who we are as a program. That said, I don’t think anybody here would complain after the Hazell and Walters regimes.

Where’s our Purdue Grad Tech Billionaire, who also happens to be a huge sports fan???

 

[Woodsa]

Where’s our Purdue Grad Tech Billionaire, who also happens to be a huge sports fan???

Or, better yet, convince Elon Musk that Purdue is the University to Make America Great Again and as such, he should invest in our sports program.

 

[pboiler18]

Or, better yet, convince Elon Musk that Purdue is the University to Make America Great Again and as such, he should invest in our sports program.

Let’s get those DOGE savings pouring into the football coffers

 

[Indy_Rider]

Meh. I think he’s a good coach and knows how to win. He showed that at UNLV fairly obviously. Now the caveat there is that he won at a resource rich place relative to their conference competition.

That's why I look more at what he did at Missouri as a young coach just starting out. He made some mistakes and learned from them but was fairly successful at the same time. Only reason he was let go at the time was because he didn't get along with the AD.

But he showed even then, he knows what he's doing and can identify the coaching talent needed as he went through a few OCs that moved up under him.

 

[Wolegib]

I would agree Purdue doesn’t have the big donors that some other schools do. But the truth is many other schools have about the same amount of NIL money Purdue has and they find a way to win.

Look at Iowa!

Purdue is not going to spend. A lot of money on a big name coach. Guys like Odom and Brohm were close to being the best coach Purdue could afford to hire. When Purdue hired Walters, who else were they rumored to to hire? Did that coach sign for less than Walters?

I’m impressed more by Odom’s success at Missouri than his success at UNLV. It’s rather easy to win 8-9 games at UNLV. Having a .500 record at Missouri was a lot harder.

Expectations? With the new additions to the BIG10, will Purdue ever have another winning season or be in a position to win a championship? a winning season, maybe.

A tougher question. As fans should we just accept the reality of mediocrity? Our spending and donors are nowhere close to what usc and OSU have. How can we hope or expect to compete? I have to ask, how are the other schools doing it? Where are teams like Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Kentucky, Missouri, msu, IU and other teams getting the money to compete?

 

[POTFHBTFU]

I would agree Purdue doesn’t have the big donors that some other schools do. But the truth is many other schools have about the same amount of NIL money Purdue has and they find a way to win.

Look at Iowa!

Purdue is not going to spend. A lot of money on a big name coach. Guys like Odom and Brohm were close to being the best coach Purdue could afford to hire. When Purdue hired Walters, who else were they rumored to to hire? Did that coach sign for less than Walters?

I’m impressed more by Odom’s success at Missouri than his success at UNLV. It’s rather easy to win 8-9 games at UNLV. Having a .500 record at Missouri was a lot harder.

Expectations? With the new additions to the BIG10, will Purdue ever have another winning season or be in a position to win a championship? a winning season, maybe.

A tougher question. As fans should we just accept the reality of mediocrity? Our spending and donors are nowhere close to what usc and OSU have. How can we hope or expect to compete? I have to ask, how are the other schools doing it? Where are teams like Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Kentucky, Missouri, msu, IU and other teams getting the money to compete?

Lot of highly mischaracterized statements here. Walters was a bad hire. Purdue made a mistake. Nothing to do with money. You asked the question and I will answer, the other finalist is making about $1m as head coach of WKU. It wasn’t that we didn’t want to pay for him but we made a bad decision (and to be clear our AD preferred the candidate we did not hire). We had other candidates that were excellent. In fact the guy we wanted not only said no but then said no to stupid money thrown at them from MSU (Chris Klieman). But let’s not let facts get in the way.

This isn’t all about money. Sure it’s a factor. But Purdue has pledged to match 100% of maximum dollars allowed under revenue sharing. Sure our donors can step up but don’t hold that against our program. We had 5-7 win talent last year, just made a bad decision on a coach.

Brohm was a good hire. Not sure what you are getting there as the best we can do like we are extremely handicapped? I bet the vast majority of the big ten teams would take him. He took us to the freakin conference championship game and contrary to what you want to believe we were competitive for much of it.

Also it is NOT easy to win 8-9 at UNLV and be a top 25 team. That is such a stupid comment. And he won 11!!! This year. Since 1984, UNLV has won 8+ games ONE time until odom.

I’m encouraged. We don’t accept mediocrity. Running tiller into retirement and also moving on from hope is proof. When we did get good coaches we have NEVER let them leave except the inevitably unavoidable situation with brohm to Louisville even after we remarkable kept him hear the first time.

 

[Wolegib]

A lot of words. Almost as many as I use.

A couple of holes in your comments. Young was an outstanding coach, maybe better than Tiller, and we let him go.

My point about UNLV is that with smart scheduling, it should be easy for that team to win 8+ games every year. And the reason they didn’t? Bad coaching!

I’ve never been a Hope fan. The only thing I liked about him was that his salary was dirt cheap. I’ve said it many times. If you want to only win 4-7. Games a year, just keep Hope as your coach. Rather than spending a lot of money on a coach.

Many people say how great we were to win the western side of the conference and play in the conference championship game. The facts were the western side of our conference had a bad year. Has the western side of our conference ever won the championship game over the eastern side? Do they give trophies for winning the western side? Does anybody outside of Purdue even care? If Purdue was in the eastern side, would they have been competitive against any of those teams?

Brohm was a good coach, but the reality was he was never going to take Purdue any higher than 4th place in the conference in his best year. And adding Washington, Oregon and usc. We’re only going to make our finish lower.

Purdue showed how great they were that year in their bowl game. Yes we had key players who decided not to play. But that exposed our total lack of depth. I also believe a truly good coach would stick around for a bowl game and also motivate his players to play in the bowl game. Look at OSU this year! After losing to Michigan , their players could have entered the portal or they could have been like the Purdue players and decided it was in their best interest not to get injured playing in a bowl game. But they all stuck it out and played. And then entered the transfer portal after the last game was played. I have to believe their coach had something to do with that.

Hazell and Walters were bad hires. But maybe not. They were bad hires because of the wages they received. They should never have been paid the amount Purdue paid them based on their lack of head coaching experience. Their salary was close to what an experienced successful coach would receive. And neither coach had much head coaching experience before being hired. On the other hand, if Purdue had paid them Under $1 million a year like they did Hope, with a low buyout, And they produced 3-4 wins like Hope did, people would not be so upset by their hires. Unfortunately with their salary, people expected a lot better results than they produced. At least Walters was a good recruiter.

I will give you props. It’s nice to see someone on this board finally stating who the alternative to Walters was. I had heard Walters was not the AD’s choice, but rather was forced on him by the university president. This makes me ask the question, How many other ADs are not allowed to choose their own coaches? And how many university presidents are calling the shots for coaching hires? To me, if you give a person a job, you have to show faith in the person to do their job. The hiring of Walters by the President was a slap in the face to our AD.

You mention the WKU coach. I don’t doubt he is a good coach. But that’s kind of sad and revealing that he would be thought of as the best possible coach that Purdue could attract to be our head coach.

Odom was not a bad hire. But it’s still sad to realize he was the best coach That was actually interested in coming to coach at Purdue. Is Purdue that bad of a school That no elite coach wants to come here?

As for stupid decisions and bad coaching hires, Jim Tressel is now the Lt Governor of Ohio! Much like Tommy Tubberville, he knows nothing about politics or the requirements of his job. But he has a recognizable name. I guess Woody Hayes wasn’t available.