Stupid!!! Dumb penalty. Cost us.
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Idiot. He got kicked out of a game last year too.
Love everything about holt. But at some point you can't have people you make captains be this stupid.
Fight hard, terrible way to finish game
Love everything about holt. But at some point you can't have people you make captains be this stupid.
Fight hard, terrible way to finish game
I disagree. You will see that Sat and it won’t get a flag and to throw it in a tight game. I don’t see it
The last thing you want is an official to change the way he calls a game based on the time on the clock. It was a stupid play and would be called almost anywhere in almost any situation.
There were several things that cost us. Cant point to Neal's stupid penalty as the one and only issue
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You know it was a dumb play, but if you call that in that situation where was the call earlier on the hit on Blough on the sideline?
The last thing you want is a game decided on an officials judgement call. Let the players decide it
F Izzo F the refs
Herbstreet, the other announcer AND the rules guy agreed that call is made 10/10 times. It’s emphasis and focus.
It’s just dumb. The whistle blew. Heck the clock is running. Stand him up and move on.
That one play isn’t why we lost (see three interceptions in first half). However, it gave away 2 minutes where we could have at least tried on offense.
So, it’s ok to slam a QB to the ground out of bounds? It was a bad overaction by the ref. The same refs who couldn't seem to find it when the CB’s were tackling WR’s in open field, or to flat push off and away from the DB.
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Damn, that reaction sounded like my step son. He's right, you should stop. That one penalty hurt, but 21 points off turnovers killed us
Agree. Refs sucked bad in 1st half. The non offensive pass interference call was BAD! They Did better in 2nd half and Purdue took over with mental errors with multiple calls & the most egregious being the slam at the end. Neal needs to take responsibility for not allowing a comeback chance.
Where I come from adults don’t speak to each other that way. It’s extremly disrespectful. Perfectly acceptable to disagree. But in no way does anyone have the right to tell another adult to stop.
He also has all the right to place me on ignore. Based on his post history it won’t hurt my feelings at all. Not like I will be missing any meaningful dialogue.
Where do you come from? Azerbaijan?
Normally, I would totally chalk that up as a boneheaded move. However, the refs were a little slow on the "forward progress" whistles earlier in the game (and at one point, NU parlayed that into a couple extra yards), and they seemed a little slow on that one again. I imagine a sense of desperation might have also played a part (although we were about to get the ball back ¯\_(ツ)_/¯).
As for the rest of the game, I was impressed with the defense in the second half. The only question I had was why we seemed to stop running the ball when it was working so well in the second half (not that I begrudge any coach his play calling - just curious as to the thinking). Otherwise, I felt pretty good leaving Ross-Ade. We lost, but we played poorly at times, turned it over too much, were victims of a few questionable calls (really, who isn't?
), all at the hands of a good team and we still were right there. Northwestern was much steadier than Purdue last night, but the Boilermakers also seemed like they were, perhaps, a bit more explosive than the Wildcats. Hopefully, the team learns to wield their double-edged sword without cutting themselves as the season goes on .
As for the rest of the game, I was impressed with the defense in the second half. The only question I had was why we seemed to stop running the ball when it was working so well in the second half (not that I begrudge any coach his play calling - just curious as to the thinking). Otherwise, I felt pretty good leaving Ross-Ade. We lost, but we played poorly at times, turned it over too much, were victims of a few questionable calls (really, who isn't?
), all at the hands of a good team and we still were right there. Northwestern was much steadier than Purdue last night, but the Boilermakers also seemed like they were, perhaps, a bit more explosive than the Wildcats. Hopefully, the team learns to wield their double-edged sword without cutting themselves as the season goes on .
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Adios
Now that Purdue doesn’t play for 9 days you can go bitch about Painter as usual.
This is exactly why Brohm was upset. The least you can ask for from the refs is consistency. It’s like a strike zone in baseball. It’s not always the same from one game to the next, but once you establish it you have to stick with it. Calls don’t happen in a vacuum. And we saw different standards for pass interference, holding, forward progress, and late hits last night.
We did plenty other things to lose the game, but he had every right to be upset.
I think it was a bad time to get that penalty and essentially did seal their fate, I would say the three INTs really had cost us the game (especially the one right before halftime).
That being said, I agree with indyogb that the forward progress whistles had been a little slow and one in particular made a 3rd & 7 become a 3rd & 4. Also agree with FirstDownB that not calling Blough being thrown to the ground clearly out of bounds makes the Neal penalty a little tougher to swallow. Plus, I think that the NW running back embellished a lot there (the guy didn't go down easy all night and then goes flying with minimal effort from Neal). There were other plays earlier in the game too where I noticed NW guys trying to flop for flags.
Again, just be smarter both with protecting the ball and not giving the refs opportunities to make game deciding calls.
Overall, there were a lot of things to be excited about going forward.
That being said, I agree with indyogb that the forward progress whistles had been a little slow and one in particular made a 3rd & 7 become a 3rd & 4. Also agree with FirstDownB that not calling Blough being thrown to the ground clearly out of bounds makes the Neal penalty a little tougher to swallow. Plus, I think that the NW running back embellished a lot there (the guy didn't go down easy all night and then goes flying with minimal effort from Neal). There were other plays earlier in the game too where I noticed NW guys trying to flop for flags.
Again, just be smarter both with protecting the ball and not giving the refs opportunities to make game deciding calls.
Overall, there were a lot of things to be excited about going forward.
Exactly! the guy clearly flopped and their QB did the same earlier in the game. Forget which lineman with his hands straight in the air as the QB did his best world cup soccer flop. They were coached on it which is very weak. I agree with coach on the slow whistles.
I am 50/50 on the offensive pass interference. A case can be made that it looked like he overran the play. If he turns back to spot the ball it is OPI without question.
There was a helmet to helmet hit after Blough came in that was missed. I believe Brohm called a timeout shortly after and was surprised that it didn’t get reviewed because Blough was a little shaken. Whoever is running video boards needed to throw that replay on the boards to get the crowd booing which makes the refs take a second look.
Regarding the Neal penalty - I watched it again and they started blowing the whistle after Neal lifted to toss. I feel like I watched both live and replay and both times the whistle came after he started to lift - almost like “oh shit no one blew the whistle”. Granted he was clearly stopped and we didn’t need a strip, fumble or 5 yd loss - just a stop would suffice.
First game against a quality opponent and we have things to work on. All I know is Brohm and staff aren’t blaming the refs for this loss. That falls on them and their shoulders.
There was a helmet to helmet hit after Blough came in that was missed. I believe Brohm called a timeout shortly after and was surprised that it didn’t get reviewed because Blough was a little shaken. Whoever is running video boards needed to throw that replay on the boards to get the crowd booing which makes the refs take a second look.
Regarding the Neal penalty - I watched it again and they started blowing the whistle after Neal lifted to toss. I feel like I watched both live and replay and both times the whistle came after he started to lift - almost like “oh shit no one blew the whistle”. Granted he was clearly stopped and we didn’t need a strip, fumble or 5 yd loss - just a stop would suffice.
First game against a quality opponent and we have things to work on. All I know is Brohm and staff aren’t blaming the refs for this loss. That falls on them and their shoulders.
It was on a scramble by Blough from right to left as the team was going right to left on the TV. Can't remember what point in the game. I thought it was questionable at best. The lineman chased Blough to the sideline and plopped on him as they were both heading out. He was probably still inbounds when the hit was made, and then they both landed out. I didn't think it warranted a flag but they never showed a replay. Again, they were too busy showing Trent Green.
Play starts about 8:18 to go in 4th quarter. Purdue got called for holding on the play as well.
I watched the replay and the whistles (multiple) start blowing a full 2 ticks on the clock before Larkin gets chucked. He was not fighting for yards. He had been pushed back several yards by that time and there was zero question. Ask yourself, is that the way a DL ever really makes a normal tackle?
Perhaps your reading skills suck or you went out of your way to only quote part of my statement.
I go on and state
Second part of your statement was not pertinent. You were trying to say Neal was already lifting Larkin before the whistle blew. Watching the replay Larkin is on the ground and only chucked at the last moment. He is pushed backward for 2 seconds after the whistle starts blowing, and then he is chucked. In no way was Neal carrying him for 2 seconds before throwing him.
We had a WR knocked out of our bowl game with a concussion on a similar unnecessary roughness takedown.
Seriously I have already explained my position the whistle on my replay was delayed. Whether that is true or not is irrelevant since the refs called it a penalty.
Your boy Larkin has a great acting career ahead of him for that flop to really sell the penalty.
There's no way anyone should defend that penalty on Neal. It was a stupid move and it cost Purdue any chance at the win. The whistle was clearly blowing prior to the toss and they had stopped Larkin's forward progress or any chance at getting a first down. Not sure why it's even being debated.
Just to re-iterate, normally, I'd agree with you. However, the play didn't happen in a vacuum. A few series prior to that, the referees did not blow the whistle on a similar "forward progress" type stack up that appeared to have been stopped, allowing NU to gain a few extra yards on a delayed push. Maybe the whistle on the final play wasn't as late as it seemed, but it seemed a little delayed, and I certainly didn't hear it from where I was sitting until just before the player was thrown to the ground.
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