The website has every transfer listed for the last 6 years. So I went through the list and counted it up and combined the 22-23 and 23-24 portal entries on the left and the 2024-25 entries (read current) on the right. Michigan State and Minnesota were probably outliers based on the coaching change, which is how I would categorize the 21-22 purdue portal entries.
Sophie Swanson entering portal
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I really think counting grad transfers as equal to undergrad transfers is pretty disingenuous. Many KG's transfers have been just that. The other ones were those that wanted more PT and didn't see a future with the program. The two real transfers IMO - players who played a lot and KG was really hoping would be the core of the program - and opted to leave - were MA and Swanson.
Then as I stated its either a bad talent evaluation of who to recruit or near non-existent player development. CKG has lost two full recruiting classes to date in only 4 years. Again, you discount our portal numbers but accept everyone else's at face value; its disingenuous to keep trying to make that comparison.
Indiana catching up to us in portal entries.. 4 now. Too bad they weren't big time contributers.. selfishly I was hoping Moren would roll with these lesser talented players. IUWBB has alot of work to do to stay middle of the pack.. is this the season we finally end the losing streak to them?
I did notice their fans we're saying they don't have much in NIL either. Maybe we're not as far behind as we think with some of these middle of the pack big ten teams when it comes to NIL resources.
I did notice their fans we're saying they don't have much in NIL either. Maybe we're not as far behind as we think with some of these middle of the pack big ten teams when it comes to NIL resources.
Parish has to be done by now correct? Who knows these days lol
I suspect we might only be behind the LA schools and UM and OSU in women's bball NIL. Total speculation on my part.
You have looked at our roster for next year so far right? IU with Moren could beat us with 5 players from HPER(their Co-Rec) and Garzon compared to what we have now. We aren't done, but neither is IU. Them looking hard for portal players is actually bad for us, as if we are after the same player, where do you suspect she ends up?
Agreed on them portaling as much as us. I know it's not saying much to say we'll be better next season but I think we will. I'm projecting IU to be slightly worse at the least so maybe that would push us over. It seems hard to imagine Moren finding 2 players just as good or better than Parrish and Moore-Mcneil in the portal. Alot to play out with roster construction but wouldn't you agree that we should at the least be minimally better than last year?
Jones, Layden, Puryear, McCarthy all with another year under them. The return of Madison, and Gordon is a nice start.
Right now, I think we struggle to win 2 Big Ten games with that lineup. I suspect IU gets better from the portal than we do, and they return Garzon, a player with WNBA draft potential, albeit likely second rounder. IU's coaching staff has shown to be better in every facet of the game than ours, but only slightly better at recruiting. I agree IU slips further down the standings, but from where they are to where we are as a program would not be a slip, it would be a Hindenburg level disaster, and I don't see us getting any better under this regime.
Update on IU as two more have entered the portal. They have 4 players returning that played this past season. Ciezki, Garzon - combined for 26 ppg. The other two, Wiseman and Kadlecova combined for 1.8 ppg. Then they have a RS G returning in Beaumont and RS F in Fenn.
Purdue - 4 returning players + Madison - combined 36 ppg.
Now IU is set up much more favorably to pick up better portal talent - but as of now the two programs are not that far off in terms of returning production.
In terms of incoming recruiting classes - each school has 2 top 100 kids coming in. A guard and a post.
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And Collier averaged about 4 points per game against NCAA level teams and only shot three times a game. She was an empty uniform occupying space on offense and playing poorly on defense. In a points per minute analysis she was egregiously awful.
Which probably should have been expected, playing up three levels.
Yeah I won't knock Collier for coming up and competing at the higher level. She showed she was a solid 3 pt shooter but was asked to do too much on a bad team. I believe she also played hurt down the stretch. She had a good attitude and represented Purdue well. She was even awarded a sportsmanship award.
Collier was at best a MAC level player off the bench. That she was our second in minutes played is not her fault, but an absolute failure of the coaches IMHO. There were a lot here knocking Madison her last season, but IMO Collier provided about half what Madison did. When the shot clock was winding down, Swanson and Madison would move to the ball and hoist a shot to avoid a shot clock violation, Collier actively hid from the ball in those situations.
Just wondering if there will ever be a time when you'll stop ragging on Collier? As indicated in one or more of the coach interviews, I believe she was playing with back issues for a while.
This is his MO - pick a random player and ridiculously rag on them as if they could control the amount of minutes they played. He's a bully. An old man still acting like a 12 year old school yard bully - picking on someone 30 years younger than he is. It's truly pathetic.
You calling anyone a bully is hilarious. You belittle and insult everyone who doesnt kow tow to your opinion. Even when it's ludicrously wrong.
Collier could not control her playing time its true, but if you pay attention, I'm using Colliers ridiculous playing time versus her minimal results to point out how utterly clueless our coach is and how she plays favorites rather than best players. Its part of why she loses so many players and so many games.
