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So who is leaving?

Waddell, Berg, Furst and let Loyer test the NIL waters. People are going to say not Loyer, but he hasn't grown defensively, he can't create his own shot and isn't a strong enough rebounder. Let the young guys grow under Smith's leadership, grab a big scoring guard in the portal along with a rim protector and this team would be ok.

If, Fletch stays the more power to him. But let hm earn his keep. It would force Cam and Myles to get better as well.
the only thing Furst will test will be in the classroom next yr
 
Waddell, Berg, Furst and let Loyer test the NIL waters. People are going to say not Loyer, but he hasn't grown defensively, he can't create his own shot and isn't a strong enough rebounder. Let the young guys grow under Smith's leadership, grab a big scoring guard in the portal along with a rim protector and this team would be ok.

If, Fletch stays the more power to him. But let hm earn his keep. It would force Cam and Myles to get better as well.
Good thing he earned his keep this year by being the best shooter in the B1G.
 
Good thing he earned his keep this year by being the best shooter in the B1G.
And exactly what did that do for us? We need scorers not shooters. Dakota became a scorer and evolved his game. Once again, he doesn't rebound very good, he isn't a strong guard who can dribble/drive and he struggles with defense.

Being a good shooter doesn't necessarily help this team become better. Exactly, why we have 3 guys sitting out on the corners looking for Smith and TKR to create an opening. I want players who can create off the dribble/drive. Do you not notice these long scoring droughts?
 
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And exactly what did that do for us? We need scorers not shooters. Dakota became a scorer and evolved his game. Once again, he doesn't rebound very good, he isn't a strong guard who can dribble/drive and he struggles with defense.

Being a good shooter doesn't necessarily help this team become better. Exactly, why we have 3 guys sitting out on the corners looking for Smith and TKR to create an opening. I want players who can create off the dribble/drive. Do you not notice these long scoring droughts?
Yikes. Your emotions are on full display.
 
Waddell, Berg, Furst and let Loyer test the NIL waters. People are going to say not Loyer, but he hasn't grown defensively, he can't create his own shot and isn't a strong enough rebounder. Let the young guys grow under Smith's leadership, grab a big scoring guard in the portal along with a rim protector and this team would be ok.

If, Fletch stays the more power to him. But let hm earn his keep. It would force Cam and Myles to get better as well.
I get that Fletch has physical limitations, but I'm not sold on letting him go. He led the league in 3-point shooting against B1G teams. That's not nothing.

Say he does enter the portal and gets a better NIL offer. True, letting him go would free up NIL money for Purdue to work the portal. But, you're also losing a 3-year starter and 1000 point scorer from a team that doesn't have many proven scorers. And there's no guarantee the new guy is going to be better. Or, Purdue's NIL has to pony up more money to keep him, money that could have helped attract more help.
 
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I get that Fletch has physical limitations, but I'm not sold on letting him go. He led the league in 3-point shooting against B1G teams. That's not nothing.

Say he does enter the portal and gets a better NIL offer. True, letting him go would free up NIL money for Purdue to work the portal. But, you're also losing a 3-year starter and 1000 point scorer from a team that doesn't have many proven scorers. And there's no guarantee the new guy is going to be better. Or, Purdue's NIL has to pony up more money to keep him, money that could have helped attract more help.
I get the concerns and it could backfire. I just feel he's pretty close to the same player we recruited and hasn't changed much in his game to get better. Plus, I see Harris could fill his void if he left.

Shooting is always a plus, but right now we need scorers and that's limiting our success. We just don't have enough of them to go out and get us points.

I get your points.
 
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And exactly what did that do for us? We need scorers not shooters. Dakota became a scorer and evolved his game. Once again, he doesn't rebound very good, he isn't a strong guard who can dribble/drive and he struggles with defense.

Being a good shooter doesn't necessarily help this team become better. Exactly, why we have 3 guys sitting out on the corners looking for Smith and TKR to create an opening. I want players who can create off the dribble/drive. Do you not notice these long scoring droughts?
I'll ask it again.... how many more games were losses this year if Loyer wasn't on the court? Give us a guess. 5? 8?
 
I'll ask it again.... how many more games were losses this year if Loyer wasn't on the court? Give us a guess. 5? 8?
Couldn't tell you the answer. How many games could we have won if we had a player that could dribble/drive, rebound at a higher clip, play better defense. There were many games where we were killed by the 1-3 position. His +/- would be the telling point.

We lacked rebounding from the guard position, true? We lacked a true dribble/drive 3 guard, true? We lacked a lock down defensive stopper at the 3 guard, true?

What if we had a player like Claude and/or Tonje. What would this team look like with Smith and TKR or personally let Harris take that spot over.
 
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Were you watching him at all tonight? A low ceiling? What?
I actually thought he showed some speed we didn't know he had last night. Excellent FT shooter that is a great value with his ball handling late in a game...and he has shot the 3 ball well.
 
I think 3-4 guys hit the portal and Painter brings in 3, including 2 guys who start.
 
I get that Fletch has physical limitations, but I'm not sold on letting him go. He led the league in 3-point shooting against B1G teams. That's not nothing.

Say he does enter the portal and gets a better NIL offer. True, letting him go would free up NIL money for Purdue to work the portal. But, you're also losing a 3-year starter and 1000 point scorer from a team that doesn't have many proven scorers. And there's no guarantee the new guy is going to be better. Or, Purdue's NIL has to pony up more money to keep him, money that could have helped attract more help.
Obviously I don't think he should be let go.
But I do think the he's starting no matter what role hasn't necessarily helped him have a sense of urgency to improve his liabilities.

Yes, he's a great shooter. He still needs to play way better defense. He still needs to not disappear on offense for long stretches in games. He needs to stop those drives to the basket that end up with him flailing to draw a foul. He needs to stop with the flopping.

But given he's one of only two consistent outside shooters on the team, you need him to
be successful next season. But he needs to do more than shoot.
 
Obviously I don't think he should be let go.
But I do think the he's starting no matter what role hasn't necessarily helped him have a sense of urgency to improve his liabilities.

Yes, he's a great shooter. He still needs to play way better defense. He still needs to not disappear on offense for long stretches in games. He needs to stop those drives to the basket that end up with him flailing to draw a foul. He needs to stop with the flopping.

But given he's one of only two consistent outside shooters on the team, you need him to
be successful next season. But he needs to do more than shoot.
Absolutely.
 
I'll ask it again.... how many more games were losses this year if Loyer wasn't on the court? Give us a guess. 5? 8?
How many games do we win if he dedicated himself to better defense? To more consistent play on offense? 3? 5?
 
I get the concerns and it could backfire. I just feel he's pretty close to the same player we recruited and hasn't changed much in his game to get better. Plus, I see Harris could fill his void if he left.

Shooting is always a plus, but right now we need scorers and that's limiting our success. We just don't have enough of them to go out and get us points.

I get your points.
It would definitely help to get a consistent multi-dimensional guy who can defend out there with him. Myles Colvin looks like the closest to that right now. CJ Cox and Gicarri Harris both looked like freshmen this year. CJ has really struggled down the stretch, but hopefully he'll benefit from getting starting experience this early in his career.

I suspect Painter will look for an athletic 2 or 3 who can score. Purdue's had mixed luck with transfers, but Lance Jones worked out pretty well last year.
 
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