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So, What Happens to Louisville?

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We have a while to wait for basketball to start up, so why not poke at the bleeding Cardinals? Here is what I figure will go down on this one:

It seems this is not a one-off deal for a couple recruits. Bringing prostitutes in to entertain potential recruits, and their fathers, has been shown to be a consistent and persistent behavior, sanctioned and directly funded by the university’s athletic department. If shown to be true, I think UL is in serious trouble.

The NCAA is an organization of schools that join by agreeing to a fixed set of rules that are intended to promote fair play, academic progress, and competition amongst the member schools. Proof of rules violation is not a legal issue, and does not need to meet the legal requirements of proof. There is enough proof here to have them take action. I think this is much worse than the UNC violations. However, I think the UNC academic fraud was much more morally wrong, the NCAA would see more issues with what the UL did. In my opinion, both institution are frauds at the highest levels. Their alumni should be embarrassed and humiliated.

Back to UL. Two specific rules appear to be at most jeopardy to have been broken. First, impermissible benefits to recruits, and to the recruits’ families during recruiting visits. Second, a deep and broad violation of institutional controls.

Because the players that played on those FF and championship teams were improperly recruited, any game they played in will be forfeit. Good bye 2013 championship and 2012 Final Four banners. This is not a punishment. Those achievements are tainted and simply no longer valid.

The Head Coach, assistant coaches and athletic depart leads who participated will be asked to leave. Bye-Bye Slick Rick. Their participation, and their lack of control (even if they didn’t know it was happening – yeh, right!) is reason enough for a show cause against all of them. Again, this is not punishment. It is just cleaning house. UL should do this pre-emptively, right now.

The university will be punished by what I suspect will be a one or two year ban on post season play and a 2-3 player reduction in scholarships. Most UL fan boys will look on the first two outcomes and think of them as punishments. They are not in my opinion. The first two actions are simply outcomes of the improper actions taken by their athletic department

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Assuming Vince & Biggie stay for one more year after 2015-16, this season & next will be Purdue's best chances to win it all, maybe ever. Obviously a postseason ban for Louisville and/or North Carolina in either season, this season especially for UNC, would be the most significant thing to help the Boilers' chances. In Louisville's case, losing Pitino would also especially hurt their cause. He's one of the all-time great game tacticians. I doubt his replacement would be his equal in terms of instincts & knowledge of personnel.
 
I think U of L is in trouble with the NCAA for only one reason. Some of the players got paid. While they were business women they still got paid to play and the NCAA is not in favor of ANY players getting paid and cutting into their own slush fund.
 
I live down here, and that school is a dumpster fire right now (as it should be) They are already calling for Brad Stevens to be his replacement as no ones realistically see's Pitino surviving this considering his own affair went public a few years back. It's hard to believe Pitino had no idea what was going over the past 4-5 years, if indeed true.
 
UL HAS TO BE in big trouble. The NCAA cannot maintain with any reasonable degree of a straight face that there was institution control over the BB program. IIRC, prostitution is illegal in the state of Kentucky and it appears that persons affiliated with the program were financing a criminal act. The alternative is to assert institutional control, meaning the UL Admin thought that this as a good idea. Does anyone think that UL will try to make that case? On top of that, it appears that some of the paramours were underaged. That adds another (and perhaps even worse) variable to the mess.

There is, imo, no way Rick Pitino skates on this. Same goes for Jurich, the AD. He was rumored to be the prime candidate for the vacant Texas AD post but any chance of that happening has evaporated with this breaking. The banners have to be gone. Also, I saw it posted that Lyle has claimed that he experienced this "familiarity" while on a visit there so it appears to have substance with multiple claims being made.

Obviously, this needs to be investigated, but there is an awful lot of smoke for there not to be a fire.
 
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Assuming Vince & Biggie stay for one more year after 2015-16, this season & next will be Purdue's best chances to win it all, maybe ever. Obviously a postseason ban for Louisville and/or North Carolina in either season, this season especially for UNC, would be the most significant thing to help the Boilers' chances. In Louisville's case, losing Pitino would also especially hurt their cause. He's one of the all-time great game tacticians. I doubt his replacement would be his equal in terms of instincts & knowledge of personnel.
Obsessing troll.
 
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