So Matt Campbell at Iowa State is starting ASAP?

[RegionWarrior101]

You mean he is not going to half-assed it doing two jobs until starting at Iowa State in mid-January? Not going to coach the Rockets in a meaningless game? Huh.

On a side note, Heacock our former db coach is the interim at Toledo.

 

[SIBoiler2]

Waiting 'til after a bowl game had no effect on where we are today. Ineptitude is not affected by more or less time on the job.

 

[pu1985]

Waiting 'til after a bowl game had no effect on where we are today. Ineptitude is not affected by more or less time on the job.

Correct - but it did set the tone early on - that other things were more important than locking down your staff and jumping on recruiting.
And it has permeated ever since.
I had a bad feeling when he brought along little if any of his staff from KSU.

 

[Boiler8285]

Correct - but it did set the tone early on - that other things were more important than locking down your staff and jumping on recruiting.
And it has permeated ever since.
I had a bad feeling when he brought along little if any of his staff from KSU.

Exactly this. Hazell thought he would just wander in and players would fall from the trees like they did for his mentor at OSU. Hazell had no idea and still doesn't of the work it will take to be successful. No amount of coaching 'em up will cover up his lousy recruiting.

 

[Hawks!!!]

Kirk Ferentz kept working at his NFL position coach job for like a month after he was hired at Iowa. He would literally fly into Iowa City for a day or two, do some stuff, then fly back to Baltimore for 3 or 4 days.

That seemed to turn out OK. The class that he signed while doing that, probably ranked dead last out of every Power 5 school in the country, ended up going undefeated in the Big Ten their senior years.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

Exactly this. Hazell thought he would just wander in and players would fall from the trees like they did for his mentor at OSU. Hazell had no idea and still doesn't of the work it will take to be successful. No amount of coaching 'em up will cover up his lousy recruiting.

The main issue I have with your post is that Hazell doesn't seem to be able to 'coach up' players at all. I still point to his terrible pre-game speeches I heard from the Marshall game (something about a gate and a key) and another game about a bridge...just terrible. I'll say this much: a former player I know says he respects Hazell because he is a good man but the guy doesn't have a clue on how to handle a football program the size of Purdue. Said he doesn't and didn't have any confidence in the staff to make the players and program successful.

Maybe Hazell needs to shadow Painter for a few weeks and see how a successful coach runs a program in season and then do the same during the 'dead time' for football from June to July.

 

[Boiler8285]

The main issue I have with your post is that Hazell doesn't seem to be able to 'coach up' players at all. I still point to his terrible pre-game speeches I heard from the Marshall game (something about a gate and a key) and another game about a bridge...just terrible. I'll say this much: a former player I know says he respects Hazell because he is a good man but the guy doesn't have a clue on how to handle a football program the size of Purdue. Said he doesn't and didn't have any confidence in the staff to make the players and program successful.

Maybe Hazell needs to shadow Painter for a few weeks and see how a successful coach runs a program in season and then do the same during the 'dead time' for football from June to July.

JDoe - I think you and I agree. I am not suggesting at all that Hazell has the slightest ability to coach 'em. In fact I think he is a lousy coach and motivator. My point was that in addition he is a terrible recruiter and seems unwilling to work to improve it. Together it is a lethal combination.

 

[FearTheTrain]

At the time I really wondered why DH stayed to coach the game (I think he said it was out of loyalty to his players or something along those lines). In recent memory, I don't know of any coach who has stayed that wasn't a coordinator going into a BCS bowl. Let me know if I'm wrong. Most of the time coaches are eager to get started at their new, better gig.

Maybe he knew it was his only chance to head coach a bowl game? Who knows.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

JDoe - I think you and I agree. I am not suggesting at all that Hazell has the slightest ability to coach 'em. In fact I think he is a lousy coach and motivator. My point was that in addition he is a terrible recruiter and seems unwilling to work to improve it. Together it is a lethal combination.

That is one thing I really did like about Hope. He told it like it was and when he struggled early on with clock management, he came out and said he would fix his shortcomings with it. Say what you want about the guy back then...but looking back, Hope was doing a pretty godo job with what he had available to him. Imagine if he had the budget Hazell was given for his staff.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

At the time I really wondered why DH stayed to coach the game (I think he said it was out of loyalty to his players or something along those lines). In recent memory, I don't know of any coach who has stayed that wasn't a coordinator going into a BCS bowl. Let me know if I'm wrong. Most of the time coaches are eager to get started at their new, better gig.

Maybe he knew it was his only chance to head coach a bowl game? Who knows.

Which is really even more stupid when you think about it because he was only there for two years anyway. There is no way he sold his recruits on him jumping ship two years after he got them on campus. The kids already know you are leaving them for a better gig, the understand it is part of the atmosphere of being a player at a lower level school.