I'm not concerned. Basil has a very solid build and he has probably spent a lot of time in the weight room. I'm confident that he'll be where he needs to be. I'm more interested to know how he has progressed in his skills development and whether he understands what it takes to take over for Ray Davis on defense.
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This thread is just too heavy for me. Lighten up
I'm not sure that Smotherman's going to "take over" Davis' role on D. He just stated that he HOPES to become a defensive player that's as effective as Rapheal Davis was for most of his final two seasons.
Now, I'm not saying Basil compares to Lebron athletically but James is 6'8 and played at 250 this past year. Once Basil gets in to the summer workouts and practices to get ready for their European trip to Spain, he will probably be down to 225-230. He'll be completely fine.
That's a good thing you aren't comparing them, because there is no comparison. I like basil, he's a solid player. I think he's going to have a break out year, hopefully the increase in weight is a non-issue.
You're reading too much into my statement. I'm not sure about anything.
I hope that he will make improvements defensively similar to what Davis made before his junior season. That would make Smotherman the best perimeter defender on the team, which was one of Davis's roles.
I bet Smotherman is laughing his butt off reading this, and probably getting it from others .
At least if he's laughing his butt off he will drop some weight!!!!
If the discussion is limited to playing weight, then the comparison is perfectly valid. Nobody is saying basil will play like Lebron. Only that his height to weight ratio is reasonable.
So now you're saying he's jolly? That's stereotyping.
Right, that would be nice. You did write "take over for Ray Davis on defense" in your post above, though. Basil Smotherman isn't going to be the next Rapheal Davis. He might improve on D and he'll continue to be more athletic than Davis, but it's not going to be quite the same.
C'mon man can't you see this thread has left behind any attempt to be a serious one a long time ago???
Just saying. To compare basketballers of different heights, add 8lbs for every inch in height. Lebron is closer to 6'9 than 6'8". So Basil at 6'6" 240lb is still bigger than Lebron's ~6'9", 250.
There is no way, Smotherman is going to be an elite perimeter defender at that weight! For all those defending that weight, note how he said he hasn't been working on dunking as much lately. Some might read that as a positive, I see it as another clue of how the added weight is reducing his vertical explosiveness.
If his role next year is to bang more down low and guard 4's and 5's, that weight might be okay. But if he is going to be guarding 2s and 3s, making quick cuts to the basket for dunks, he better be running his butt off all summer to get down to 220s by fall.
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No question that he needs to lose weight. He said it himself. But didn't he say that he was deliberately NOT practicing dunks because he wanted to develop other parts of his game? That is a positive! How can you possibly reinterpret what he said as something completely different -- and negative?
He is the one talking about taking over from Ray D as defensive stopper, he will need to get lighter to do that.I must have missed where our 6-6 power/small forward, Smotherman, decided he was an elite preimeter player. When did that happen? Did his testicals shrink or something?
Hum, interesting. Ray played at SF for at least one year, so that fits. I just don't think I would ever put him on an opponent's guard to slow down scoring. I can see him taking an opponent's front line player out of a game, but I really don't see him going up against the likes of a Yogi Ferrell type player. I thought the "replace Ray Davis" comment was intended as spiritually, not to play the exact same position. Perhaps folks are taking his comment too literally - that never happens, right?
His build and experience has been against front lines. I am not sure he could adapt physically to guarding a perimeter player. No wonder people are saying he needs to lose weight... good heavens, he needs to change body shape, and start back by 4 years to get the experience to guard a perimeter player. I guess stranger things have happened. I will wait and see, but with a pinch of skepticism.
But I don't ever recall anyone, including Basil, describing Ray as an "elite perimeter player".
that was improper wording on my part. I meant "guard" as in "defender" not position. I editted it. Neither Basil or Ray were ever going to be elite guards but they do have tools to be elite college-level guard defender. I would be very shocked if Basil is that at 6'5" ish 240lbs.
That's almost football size. That's B1G DE size right there.
The only value to be found in this thread is in making fun of this thread. Unfortunately that tends to get me in trouble with the thought police. Uh oh. This post just got too heavy to be productive.
It became a personal issue for me because he is my brother...and here we are working out with some of the seal members two years ago and other military.
Here are a few pictures of Basil from a few days ago at the camps going on... draw your own conclusions as to how he looks.
Well, he sure looks a he!! of a lot heavier than that kid standing nearby.
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