Shot clock change?

[Boiler Buck]

How do you see the 30 second shot clock on the Boilers play?

My thoughts - overall this helps our team by:
1. More shot clock violations per game caused by Purdue D.
2. Lower FG % caused by Purdue D due to opposing team rushing shots late.
3. More blocks per game for Hammons.
4. Increased ppg for Boilers.....can't do anything but go up can it?
5. Increases the 3s we take....which because of the shooters and rebounders we have, we will be fine.

Your thoughts?

 

[GregJM24]

Good points. Shorter shot clocks are always an advantage for good defensive teams.

I personally hope it happens, 30 seconds is plenty of time for a possession and help keep from free throw shooting contests at the end of games.

 

[PU52Chevy]

Yes all good changes except one minor one that hasn't been discussed..............

They got rid of the 5 second call for on the ball defenders.......

Now no matter what the player can hold the ball even if guarded or not........

Not sure I like that change............

I think they should have left it to make sure all 5 players get involved and the ball moves.....just my opinion.


Boiler Up!

 

[CoBo]

How often do Purdue teams hold the ball on offense until the end of the shot clock? My guess is more than the average D1 team. Those possessions would now be under even more pressure. Not sure Purdue would see a benefit on both ends of the court with this change.

CoBo

 

[ustankass]

Yes all good changes except one minor one that hasn't been discussed..............

They got rid of the 5 second call for on the ball defenders.......

Now no matter what the player can hold the ball even if guarded or not........

Not sure I like that change............

I think they should have left it to make sure all 5 players get involved and the ball moves.....just my opinion.


Boiler Up!

I like the 30 second shot clock (got in an argument with some about it awhile ago, a good one for the most part haha). I think it only helps us, we can still run the offense and get the same shots with that amount of time, but should help our defense.

The closely guarded 5 seconds, I am not so sure about. Davis will be upset about that haha. Also, it really can affect an end of game situation. Instead of having to pass out of a double team and possibly to a bad throw shooter the player can just stand there and do nothing and waste time. That's one change I have always wondered about the nba.

The charge block circle is also increasing in size, charges are gonna be even harder to come by.

 

[PU pit bull]

Is it me or are they making "changes" every year? sheesh

How about changing the officials LOL. They were horrible.......and now they have even more changes to deal with.

Isn't there talk about players getting 6 fouls too? smh, I must be getting old

 

[ustankass]

Is it me or are they making "changes" every year? sheesh

How about changing the officials LOL. They were horrible.......and now they have even more changes to deal with.

Isn't there talk about players getting 6 fouls too? smh, I must be getting old

Yeah, I think you are right. I think they are gonna trial it like the 30 second shot clock in the preseason NIT. This makes no sense. The nba has 6 because they have 8 more minutes of game time. 6 fouls in 40 minutes would be not be good.

 

[Heller]

Not a fan of making this change. Games were exciting with a 35 second clock and reducing that 5 seconds isn't going to amp up anything.

 

[anythingbutIU]

When they tested the 30-second clock in the post season, each team only averaged 1.06 additional possessions per 40 min.

 

[GodFamilyCountryPurdue]

How do you see the 30 second shot clock on the Boilers play?

My thoughts - overall this helps our team by:
1. More shot clock violations per game caused by Purdue D.
2. Lower FG % caused by Purdue D due to opposing team rushing shots late.
3. More blocks per game for Hammons.
4. Increased ppg for Boilers.....can't do anything but go up can it?
5. Increases the 3s we take....which because of the shooters and rebounders we have, we will be fine.

Your thoughts?

We will have a lot more fouls called against us. It will create much more one on one and driving the lane. It takes coaching out of the game, and talent will play a much larger role.

 

[CRBoiler]

I don't understand why they are tampering with college hoops. I think the effect will not be that much... There will be slightly fewer upsets because favored teams that fall behind will have an extra possession or two to win at the end. It will also work that way for underdogs trying to pull the upset, but far less often. So that makes basketball less interesting IMO.

 

[woggy718]

I don't understand why they are tampering with college hoops. I think the effect will not be that much... There will be slightly fewer upsets because favored teams that fall behind will have an extra possession or two to win at the end. It will also work that way for underdogs trying to pull the upset, but far less often. So that makes basketball less interesting IMO.

There are a lot of people who say the college game is unwatchable. They aren't purist. It's kind of like people who don't like the national league in baseball. They want points and a lot of them so a good ole fashioned 62-55 B1G game drives them insane.

They are basically trying to get the college game to more closely resemble the NBA.

 

[Boiler Buck]

There are a lot of people who say the college game is unwatchable. They aren't purist. It's kind of like people who don't like the national league in baseball. They want points and a lot of them so a good ole fashioned 62-55 B1G game drives them insane.

They are basically trying to get the college game to more closely resemble the NBA.

Well I cannot watch baseball on TV at all....but a college basketball game is fine just the way it is.....but I like watching a good defense. That is why teams like Purdue (lately), MSU, Wisky and Va are all usually ok to watch as there are both good offense and defense to watch. But balance is important: need both good O & D. When it gets out of balance, yes, it does get hard to watch.

 

[lbodel]

Good points. Shorter shot clocks are always an advantage for good defensive teams.

I personally hope it happens, 30 seconds is plenty of time for a possession and help keep from free throw shooting contests at the end of games.

How would a 30 second shot clock keep from free throw shooting contests at the end of games?

 

[ghostoffatjack]

Glad the coaches will get to vote on this since I believe the media has made an issue of this to make college hoops more like the NBA. I guess we will all see and live with whatever the vote determines! I can see it all now three and four step layups with athletes driving to the lane, poor freethrow and outside shooting %'s just like the NBA that's what college hoops needs? Not IMO!

 

[PU pit bull]

I was under the impression that coaches are the ones who want these changes. Not an NCAA or media thing per se. Could be wrong.

 

[lbodel]

I was under the impression that coaches are the ones who want these changes. Not an NCAA or media thing per se. Could be wrong.

ESPN did a poll of coaches earlier in the year. 60% favored the change. 35% said to stay the same. 10% favored a 24 second shot clock.

 

[GregJM24]

How would a 30 second shot clock keep from free throw shooting contests at the end of games?

It wouldn't completely, but logically, the shorter the shot clock, the fewer intentional fouls at the end of the game.

 

[septimusharding]

How often do Purdue teams hold the ball on offense until the end of the shot clock? My guess is more than the average D1 team. Those possessions would now be under even more pressure. Not sure Purdue would see a benefit on both ends of the court with this change.
CoBo

This is a common misconception. Purdue doesn't play especially slowly.

KenPom keeps data on average possession length for both offensive and defensive possessions. The average D1 possession last season was 18.4 seconds long. Purdue's average was 18.2 seconds, so just a bit faster than average.

Just for comparison, the "fastest" Big Ten team last year was Ohio State at 16.3 seconds, and the slowest was Wisconsin at 21.8 seconds.

Of course those numbers are just averages, so they can be skewed if teams have an inordinate number of transition opportunities.

 

[ghostoffatjack]

Overall NCAA average is 18.3 seconds for what it's worth. Regarding the limited surveys the responses vary greatly on agreement of moving the shot clock to a shorter time period. Many big time programs want it and many middle to small do not but no survey has contacted more than 40 coaches so the vote of all the coaches will determine what they do!

 

[Kesselschmiede]

I hate this change. They are turning college basketball in to just a another league for the NBA. It's all about offense now and defense is not looked upon favorably.

It gives the "power house" schools more of an edge and will make college ball pretty much unwatchable for those of us that aren't in to NBA-like games.

 

[lbodel]

It wouldn't completely, but logically, the shorter the shot clock, the fewer intentional fouls at the end of the game.

How? It's not like the shot clock is really that meaningful at the end of games. I guess if a team is down 1 or 2, there's a new 5 second buffer that could exist between whether a team fouls or plays defense (although these days, it seems very few teams opt to play defense even when it's within striking distance). Other than that, the shot clock is not much of a factor at the end of games. You're typically fouling immediately whether there's a shot clock or not.

 

[lbodel]

How do you see the 30 second shot clock on the Boilers play?

My thoughts - overall this helps our team by:
1. More shot clock violations per game caused by Purdue D.
2. Lower FG % caused by Purdue D due to opposing team rushing shots late.
3. More blocks per game for Hammons.
4. Increased ppg for Boilers.....can't do anything but go up can it?
5. Increases the 3s we take....which because of the shooters and rebounders we have, we will be fine.

Your thoughts?

Check out the changes proposed for the women's game. Going to quarters instead of halves to be similar to the WNBA…

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspo...purposes-four-quarters-for-womens-basketball/

 

[Kesselschmiede]

Check out the changes proposed for the women's game. Going to quarters instead of halves to be similar to the WNBA…

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspo...purposes-four-quarters-for-womens-basketball/

They just want to ruin the college game all around don't they.

 

[Beeazlebub]

I have never understood the attitude that the NBA game is less exciting than college. Have you watched Golden State this season? The splash brothers are the best shooting combo at guard I've ever seen, but their defense is what makes them the favorite to win the championship. The Spurs? They only play the best team basketball I've ever seen at any level. The Hawks? Spurs-lite with a Popovich disciple at the helm. LeBron? The most dominating athlete on the planet. Harden? Stirring the batter with his unstoppable spin.

College will never be the NBA, and a 30 second shot clock is not going to change that, but I question those who say the NBA is all offense or isn't as exciting as the college game.