Shaka

[bonefish1]

Does this make Shake 3-2 vs Painter?
Ever since his VCU days, I've really liked the way his teams play with their relentless pressure D, guards who can penetrate and kick out, and transition offense.
I've always thought he'd be a great replacement at Purdue when Painter hangs it up.

 

[iubhounds]

He is from Wisconsin and may have been one reason he left Texas to Marquette, or was Texas about to run him out of town? I can't remember. He is building a good program there, NCAAs every year .. but ... he might get tired eventually fighting UCONN every year in the Big East. You never know in college coaching or coaching in general. Some like moving around.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Does this make Shake 3-2 vs Painter?
Ever since his VCU days, I've really liked the way his teams play with their relentless pressure D, guards who can penetrate and kick out, and transition offense.
I've always thought he'd be a great replacement at Purdue when Painter hangs it up.

I knew you couldn’t resist!! 😂 but yeah he had his guys hyped for that game…even after a hard fought battle with Maryland. It seemed we thought we could just show up and win.

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

Does this make Shake 3-2 vs Painter?
Ever since his VCU days, I've really liked the way his teams play with their relentless pressure D, guards who can penetrate and kick out, and transition offense.
I've always thought he'd be a great replacement at Purdue when Painter hangs it up gets fired.

Egads, you are slipping Lenny - I think he's actually 4-2 vs Painter (VCU, Texas (2), and Marquette).

How time flies. It seems like just yesterday......

Memories....light the corners of my mind.........misty water-colored memories.......of......the way...... we were......

Sorry, folks.....I thought I could get through this better......look away...... 😢

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

Shaka has 1 conference title. That's kind of shocking. He has a good team this year.

 

[pubill]

Does this make Shake 3-2 vs Painter?
Ever since his VCU days, I've really liked the way his teams play with their relentless pressure D, guards who can penetrate and kick out, and transition offense.
I've always thought he'd be a great replacement at Purdue when Painter hangs it up.

PJ Thompson will be next Purdue coach.

 

[bonefish1]

PJ Thompson will be next Purdue coach.

No way. I think that would be a huge risk.

 

[Boiler Buck]

PJ Thompson will be next Purdue coach.

He has time. I would like to see him do 2 things in that time........
1. Spend time elsewhere 1-2 stops for a broader education.
2. Be more involved in recruiting.

 

[pubill]

Shaka has 1 conference title. That's kind of shocking. He has a good team this year.

And limitedtourney success, since his early final 4 run

 

[bonefish1]

And limitedtourney success, since his early final 4 run

But...he and Painter do have the same number of FF appearances and until last year at least, Painter had some embarrassing tourney flops.

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

But...he and Painter do have the same number of FF appearances and until last year at least, Painter had some embarrassing tourney flops.

Happy Thanksgiving, Lenny, to you and your family!

 

[bonefish1]

Happy Thanksgiving, Lenny, to you and your family!

Same to you and yours.
It's my favorite holiday: Eat, drink, watch football, repeat.

 

[PaBoiler78]

Same to you and yours.
It's my favorite holiday: Eat, drink, watch football, repeat.

I always liked Shaka, but as far as a coach to ever replace Paint, my guy would be Greg McDermott, he runs a similar system and recruits similar type players that Paint does

 

[Boiler Buck]

I always liked Shaka, but as far as a coach to ever replace Paint, my guy would be Greg McDermott, he runs a similar system and recruits similar type players that Paint does

Two good guys. Great coaches.
But why would either come to Purdue? Kinda a lateral move.

 

[POTFHBTFU]

Two good guys. Great coaches.
But why would either come to Purdue? Kinda a lateral move.

Tv revenue. Purdue will have better facilities and I expect higher pay all around including for recruits. Also the head coach salary is endowed by the most generous cash gift in Purdue sports history.

 

[POTFHBTFU]

Shaka has 1 conference title. That's kind of shocking. He has a good team this year.

And last year was his first time to sweet 16 since…. Well… you know.

 

[Indy_Rider]

He is from Wisconsin and may have been one reason he left Texas to Marquette, or was Texas about to run him out of town? I can't remember. He is building a good program there, NCAAs every year .. but ... he might get tired eventually fighting UCONN every year in the Big East. You never know in college coaching or coaching in general. Some like moving around.

They were getting ready to run him out. At Texas, the number of stars associated with a recruit's name matter and many of those wouldn't buy into Shaka's system. So going to Marquette was a smart move for Shaka as it made it easier for him to recruit his players for his system.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Shaka has 1 conference title. That's kind of shocking. He has a good team this year.

Too bad they play in same conf as UConn

 

[bonefish1]

Two good guys. Great coaches.
But why would either come to Purdue? Kinda a lateral move.

I think you're kidding, but just in case, I disagree 100%.
Marquette and Creighton are nowhere near the program Purdue is in terms of exposure, resources, facilities, basically in every single aspect, Purdue far exceeds both.

 

[bonefish1]

Too bad they play in same conf as UConn

His program is very similar to UConn: strong, athletic guards, who attack the rim or penetrate and kick, havoc perimeter D, pressure the ball.
I think he'd do really well at Purdue.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

His program is very similar to UConn: strong, athletic guards, who attack the rim or penetrate and kick, havoc perimeter D, pressure the ball.
I think he'd do really well at Purdue.

Yeah maybe. I think PJ is next in line tho….

 

[bonefish1]

Yeah maybe. I think PJ is next in line tho….

I'm not a big fan of turning over the program to someone with zero HC experience at this level. Football has shown that can have disastrous results.
Additionally, I'd be in favor of bringing some new blood into the program.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

I'm not a big fan of turning over the program to someone with zero HC experience at this level. Football has shown that can have disastrous results.
Additionally, I'd be in favor of bringing some new blood into the program.

I can understand that. But paint will still be around another 10-15 years 😂

 

[proudopete]

I'm not a big fan of turning over the program to someone with zero HC experience at this level. Football has shown that can have disastrous results.
Additionally, I'd be in favor of bringing some new blood into the program.

Why would you want to bring in new blood. Painter has built a top notch culture at Purdue and I am sure the AD would like to continue that as long as possible.

 

[bonefish1]

Why would you want to bring in new blood. Painter has built a top notch culture at Purdue and I am sure the AD would like to continue that as long as possible.

Until last year, there was real question as to whether Painter was going to get us to the promised land. We were seeing very similar tourney results as we saw with his mentor Keady (very good regular season coach, but underachieve in the tourney).

 

[qazplm]

When the walls fell

 

[proudopete]

Until last year, there was real question as to whether Painter was going to get us to the promised land. We were seeing very similar tourney results as we saw with his mentor Keady (very good regular season coach, but underachieve in the tourney).

Care to compare Painters tournament resume with Shakas?

 

[bonefish1]

Care to compare Painters tournament resume with Shakas?

I feel like that horse has been beaten to death. Painter had a historically bad 4 year tourney run until last year. Shaka, while not having an impressive tourney resume either, has the same number of FFs.

 

[JRKinn]

I feel like that horse has been beaten to death. Painter had a historically bad 4 year tourney run until last year. Shaka, while not having an impressive tourney resume either, has the same number of FFs.

This is just dumb. Purdue under Painter has been to the S16 or better in 5 of the last 7 tourneys. There is only one other team that has had better consistency during that same period, Gonzaga. Add on top of that a Champ runner up and an elite 8 and you have a top 6-7 tourney performance in all of College bball.

Also that 4 year tourney run that you are talking about included a canceled tourney, and a S16. IF you didn't completely cherry pick your data to fit your narrative the book ends to that 4 year (with only 3 tourneys) was an E8 and a Finals appearance........

 

[bonefish1]

This is just dumb. Purdue under Painter has been to the S16 or better in 5 of the last 7 tourneys. There is only one other team that has had better consistency during that same period, Gonzaga. Add on top of that a Champ runner up and an elite 8 and you have a top 6-7 tourney performance in all of College bball.

Also that 4 year tourney run that you are talking about included a canceled tourney, and a S16. IF you didn't completely cherry pick your data to fit your narrative the book ends to that 4 year (with only 3 tourneys) was an E8 and a Finals appearance........

Until last year, Painter was considered one of the worst tourney coaches. I believe he's the only coach to lose to a 16, 15, 14 and 12 seeds. In addition, he had only one time beaten a higher seed that wasn't an 8/9 games.

 

[KentuckyBoiler]

PJ Thompson will be next Purdue coach.

What would make you think that?

We know he doesn't have head coaching experience. Is he the one bringing in some of our bigger recruits? Can he get the university to open up the NIL purses?

 

[boilerzz]

Until last year, Painter was considered one of the worst tourney coaches. I believe he's the only coach to lose to a 16, 15, 14 and 12 seeds. In addition, he had only one time beaten a higher seed that wasn't an 8/9 games.

After going on that magical Final Four run, Shaka coached teams went 12 straight years (including 6 with Texas and 2 with Marquette) never reaching the second weekend. That finally ended last year with wins over 2 double digit seeds.

Prior to those two wins last year, Shaka had 1 NCAA tournament win in 8 seasons as a P5 head coach. In 9 years as a P5 head coach, his only NCAA wins are over two 15 seed and a 10 seed.

For someone so focused on the NCAA tournament, you sure seem to not be doing your homework here.

 

[bonefish1]

After going on that magical Final Four run, Shaka coached teams went 12 straight years (including 6 with Texas and 2 with Marquette) never reaching the second weekend. That finally ended last year with wins over 2 double digit seeds.

Prior to those two wins last year, Shaka had 1 NCAA tournament win in 8 seasons as a P5 head coach. In 9 years as a P5 head coach, his only NCAA wins are over two 15 seed and a 10 seed.

For someone so focused on the NCAA tournament, you sure seem to not be doing your homework here.

I wasn't comparing Shaka and Painters tourney resumes.
2 things can be true at the same time: 1) Until last year, Painter's teams severely underachieved in the tourney and 2) Shaka and Painter have been to the same number of FF in their careers.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

I wasn't comparing Shaka and Painters tourney resumes.
2 things can be true at the same time: 1) Until last year, Painter's teams severely underachieved in the tourney and 2) Shaka and Painter have been to the same number of FF in their careers.

I get your point but just for fun I think the same can be said of Shaka….

Shaka tourney results:

VCU:
2010 - did not make tourney
2011 - L in F4 as 11 seed to 8 seed Butler
2012 - L in R32 as 12 seed to 4 seed IU
2013 - L in R32 as 5 seed to 4 seed Michigan
2014 - L in R64 as 5 seed to 12 seed SF Aust
2015 - L in R64 as 7 seed to 10 seed Oh St

UT:
2016 - L in R64 as 6 seed to 11 seed N. Iowa
2017 - did not make tourney
2018 - L in R64 as 10 seed to 7 seed Nevada
2019 - did not make tourney
2020 - COVID

Marquette
2021 - did not make tourney
2022 - L in R64 as 9 seed to 8 seed UNC
2023 - L in R32 as 2 seed to 7 seed MSU
2024 - L in S16 as 2 seed to 11 seed NC state

 

[pubill]

I feel like that horse has been beaten to death. Painter had a historically bad 4 year tourney run until last year. Shaka, while not having an impressive tourney resume either, has the same number of FFs.

Shaka NCAA

But...he and Painter do have the same number of FF appearances and until last year at least, Painter had some embarrassing tourney flops.

shaka,s NCAA history does not compare to Matt’s. Not close

What would make you think that?

We know he doesn't have head coaching experience. Is he the one bringing in some of our bigger recruits? Can he get the university to open up the NIL purses?

done deal

 

[pubill]

After going on that magical Final Four run, Shaka coached teams went 12 straight years (including 6 with Texas and 2 with Marquette) never reaching the second weekend. That finally ended last year with wins over 2 double digit seeds.

Prior to those two wins last year, Shaka had 1 NCAA tournament win in 8 seasons as a P5 head coach. In 9 years as a P5 head coach, his only NCAA wins are over two 15 seed and a 10 seed.

For someone so focused on the NCAA tournament, you sure seem to not be doing your homework here.

True Shaka NCAA performance pales in comparison to Matt’s

 

[POTFHBTFU]

Until last year, Painter was considered one of the worst tourney coaches. I believe he's the only coach to lose to a 16, 15, 14 and 12 seeds. In addition, he had only one time beaten a higher seed that wasn't an 8/9 games.

That’s another cherry picked stat. He lost to the 15 team after beating a good six seed by 10. You know who else was about the same? Tony Bennett who lost to a 16 and 2 13’s 3 of his last 4 tourneys in the first round . And won the championship the other time.

 

[MetMyWifeAtHarrys]

PJ Thompson will be next Purdue coach.

You spelled Hummel wrong.

 

[iubhounds]

Until last year, Painter was considered one of the worst tourney coaches. I believe he's the only coach to lose to a 16, 15, 14 and 12 seeds. In addition, he had only one time beaten a higher seed that wasn't an 8/9 games.

yes but memories you would love to hear ... RMK lost to Cleveland State, Richmond, Pepperdine in the first round of the NCAAs.

 

[boilernuke]

I wasn't comparing Shaka and Painters tourney resumes.
2 things can be true at the same time: 1) Until last year, Painter's teams severely underachieved in the tourney and 2) Shaka and Painter have been to the same number of FF in their careers.

Painter has made it to the championship game, something Shaka has never done, and frankly don't really ever see Shaka doing it. His tourney wins are very few.