Really curious to see what Saturday brings.

[RegionWarrior101]

I have seen this movie before. Completely bought into the hype machine... 2013 after the encouraging loss to Notre Dame then we went out and did nothing the rest of the year. Then last year after the offensive explosion at Illinois and encouraging losses, I was really buying into beating Northwestern and IU and finishing 5-7. Thought it would be a great springboard to 2015. Then a bad Northwestern team came out and slapped us around and we choked one to IU and their 3rd string QB. Now 2015 we beat a down Nebraska team and host a team with a fired coach who we beat last year. Surely win 2 in a row!

I think this Illinois game could be make or break for the staff. Hate to say it. A win puts us at 3-9 worst case, and probably the most real case. Provided IU doesn't beat us by 45, I think a win over IL keeps the status quo. A loss looks really bad, especially to a team with the interim coach who just got shut out the week before.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

I agree that come 4 pm on Saturday we will either feel like we are actually building some positive momentum or we will be making lists of possible coaches for next year. Or both.

 

[C-Paranoia]

Now 2015 we beat a down Nebraska team...

I wouldn't characterize it as a beat down. That game was in jeopardy well into the 4th quarter.

That said, I agree with your general premise. I was really disappointed by the near-miss at MSU followed by the Minnesota game. Hoping we won't see a similar pattern on Saturday.

 

[Summy1]

I agree that come 4 pm on Saturday we will either feel like we are actually building some positive momentum or we will be making lists of possible coaches for next year. Or both.

We are already making that list. If we beat Illinois Saturday that would be nice, but they suck just like Nebraska. It will be a step in the right direction but nothing to throw a parade for.
Do you think 3 wins justify bringing Hazell back?

 

[FLAG HUNTER]

No way should Hazell stay, worst 3 years in Purdue Football, the team beats a Ind St and a Nebraska team with a seldom used QB and some think the things are looking up? I can't believe anyone would want the same staff. Count me out for all games until Purdue gets a different coach.

 

[boiler800]

No way should Hazell stay, worst 3 years in Purdue Football, the team beats a Ind St and a Nebraska team with a seldom used QB and some think the things are looking up? I can't believe anyone would want the same staff. Count me out for all games until Purdue gets a different coach.

Let me make sure I understand what you are saying here...you only go to Purdue games to support whoever is the Coach, and if you don't like the Coach you don't go and support the Boilermakers? Some of you guys are acting like 6 year olds. Purdue fans should support Purdue in good times and bad. That's all I have to say.

 

[FLAG HUNTER]

Evidently you didn't understand my comment, and you probably won't if I try to explain it to you

 

[PalmCoastFl]

Let me make sure I understand what you are saying here...you only go to Purdue games to support whoever is the Coach, and if you don't like the Coach you don't go and support the Boilermakers? Some of you guys are acting like 6 year olds. Purdue fans should support Purdue in good times and bad. That's all I have to say.

There probably is a good reason somebody wouldn't support the coach or staff!!!!!!! They are incompetent and are putting out a very sub-par product. I can find a lot of better things to spend 3-4 hundred dollars on over a weekend. Empty seats talk!!!!!!!!!

 

[BoilerBulldog]

We are already making that list. If we beat Illinois Saturday that would be nice, but they suck just like Nebraska. It will be a step in the right direction but nothing to throw a parade for.
Do you think 3 wins justify bringing Hazell back?

No, but I think the university does. I do think 4 wins is good enough for another year.

 

[boiler800]

There probably is a good reason somebody wouldn't support the coach or staff!!!!!!! They are incompetent and are putting out a very sub-par product. I can find a lot of better things to spend 3-4 hundred dollars on over a weekend. Empty seats talk!!!!!!!!!

Bad coaching will eventually lead to a change, even if it isn't fast enough to please you. Empty seats punish the Purdue players and punishing them because of your dislike of their coaches isn't fair to all these hard working young Boilers. I hope you feel good about leaving your seat empty during Danny Anthrops (and all the seniors) final season. They simply don't deserve your dislike of their coaching staff being taken out on them.

 

[FLAG HUNTER]

While I appreciate what the players have done, and Anthrop is one of my favorite players of all time at Purdue, I am like others and am trying to make a statement! But then again , don't you think the team and players like Anthrop deserve a better staff? I guess you can look at it in different ways.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Hey - look at the bright side: keeping hazell ensures $10 tickets on stubhub for next year, and reduces the chance that Burke gets to bungle another football hire!

 

[PalmCoastFl]

Bad coaching will eventually lead to a change, even if it isn't fast enough to please you. Empty seats punish the Purdue players and punishing them because of your dislike of their coaches isn't fair to all these hard working young Boilers. I hope you feel good about leaving your seat empty during Danny Anthrops (and all the seniors) final season. They simply don't deserve your dislike of their coaching staff being taken out on them.

If everyone took your advice..........we would have 55k at every game watching 3-9....4-8 seasons and nothing would change. We all appreciate the hard work and sacrifice the players make..........but most aren't going to drive 3-5 hours to and from and spend hard earned money watching a sub-par product on the field. The players deserve better coaching and an administration that gives a damn!!!!!!!!!

 

[blg430]

If Purdue offense and especially the defense continues to be active this Saturday then that could be a sign improvement. Winning builds momentum and brings a higher intensity and focus in practice. Or it should at least.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Bad coaching will eventually lead to a change, even if it isn't fast enough to please you. Empty seats punish the Purdue players and punishing them because of your dislike of their coaches isn't fair to all these hard working young Boilers. I hope you feel good about leaving your seat empty during Danny Anthrops (and all the seniors) final season. They simply don't deserve your dislike of their coaching staff being taken out on them.

SI Boiler2 just called, he's still behind Mollenkopf waiting for his ass-kicking.

Seriously though- Purdue grads typically have demanding jobs, families, etc. and not a whole bunch of extra time on their hands. Therefore, they aren't going to waste an entire Saturday, plus hundreds of dollars, to be bored out of their gourd by our brain-dead coaching staff.

 

[boiler800]

While I appreciate what the players have done, and Anthrop is one of my favorite players of all time at Purdue, I am like others and am trying to make a statement! But then again , don't you think the team and players like Anthrop deserve a better staff? I guess you can look at it in different ways.

I know your intentions are good, but I think that what you are doing only hurts the players...and I think Hazell will be our Coach next year regardless of what you do. Since you feel this strongly about making a statement, have you ever thought of attending the games and holding up fire Hazell signs? Empty seats hurt the players. A coach who is going to get fired will get fired even if the stadium is full (BO Pellini is a good example).

 

[boiler800]

SI Boiler2 just called, he's still behind Mollenkopf waiting for his ass-kicking.

Seriously though- Purdue grads typically have demanding jobs, families, etc. and not a whole bunch of extra time on their hands. Therefore, they aren't going to waste an entire Saturday, plus hundreds of dollars, to be bored out of their gourd by our brain-dead coaching staff.

Tell him he missed his ass kicking because he was boycotting Hazell and wasn't at the game.

 

[boiler800]

If everyone took your advice..........we would have 55k at every game watching 3-9....4-8 seasons and nothing would change. We all appreciate the hard work and sacrifice the players make..........but most aren't going to drive 3-5 hours to and from and spend hard earned money watching a sub-par product on the field. The players deserve better coaching and an administration that gives a damn!!!!!!!!!

I live in Florida now or I would be there. I lived through the Fred Akers days in that stadium and those results were far worse than this year. Fans have just changed, while I haven't.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

SI Boiler2 just called, he's still behind Mollenkopf waiting for his ass-kicking.

Seriously though- Purdue grads typically have demanding jobs, families, etc. and not a whole bunch of extra time on their hands. Therefore, they aren't going to waste an entire Saturday, plus hundreds of dollars, to be bored out of their gourd by our brain-dead coaching staff.

I understand your point, but to be fair, there was nothing boring about last Saturday's game. The question is do they build on it or not. We'll see.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

I know your intentions are good, but I think that what you are doing only hurts the players...and I think Hazell will be our Coach next year regardless of what you do. Since you feel this strongly about making a statement, have you ever thought of attending the games and holding up fire Hazell signs? Empty seats hurt the players. A coach who is going to get fired will get fired even if the stadium is full (BO Pellini is a good example).

Is there an example of a place that is BAD, I mean like 6-26 bad that draws 50,000 every week? This is not a "Purdue fans are bad" thing, it is that as a whole, in high level athletics, if your team stinks, your attendance stinks. More people go to St. Louis Cardinals games than Cincinnati Reds games. It is just life. I am not going to fault people for not watching a bad product. Making matters worse is our product is BAD and BORING. I could see more people coming out to see 35-40 points.

 

[FLAG HUNTER]

I know your intentions are good, but I think that what you are doing only hurts the players...and I think Hazell will be our Coach next year regardless of what you do. Since you feel this strongly about making a statement, have you ever thought of attending the games and holding up fire Hazell signs? Empty seats hurt the players. A coach who is going to get fired will get fired even if the stadium is full (BO Pellini is a good example).

lol I doubt I hold up fire Hazell signs, but I also will admit I was wrong if Hazell stays and team does a lot better in the Win/Loss column, such as winning 1/2 the games or more. , I have stated in other comments that there in no way Purdue is that bad , player wise, and I feel for the players. I think the only thing the people who hire and fire understand is less fans buying tickets for games, so that is what I plan on doing.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

If everyone took your advice..........we would have 55k at every game watching 3-9....4-8 seasons and nothing would change. We all appreciate the hard work and sacrifice the players make..........but most aren't going to drive 3-5 hours to and from and spend hard earned money watching a sub-par product on the field. The players deserve better coaching and an administration that gives a damn!!!!!!!!!

In actuality, I think a stadium full of fans that continue to go through a bad season(s) speaks much louder than an empty stadium.

If I am in Burke's position, it doesn't really matter because with Tiller you had a fickle fanbase and that hasn't changed. If 55k are coming to the stadium even through a bad stretch, it would show me that my fans deserve better than 3-9 consistently because they have been here through it. With the way things stand, you aren't going to see much reduction in revenue from lost seats...it isn't like dropping 20k in a single year because at this point a drop in 5-8k isn't that much of a difference. At this point, MB may be willing to ride out the drop in attendance because of the fickle fans who jumped ship because it won't get much worse than it is now.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

In actuality, I think a stadium full of fans that continue to go through a bad season(s) speaks much louder than an empty stadium.

If I am in Burke's position, it doesn't really matter because with Tiller you had a fickle fanbase and that hasn't changed. If 55k are coming to the stadium even through a bad stretch, it would show me that my fans deserve better than 3-9 consistently because they have been here through it. With the way things stand, you aren't going to see much reduction in revenue from lost seats...it isn't like dropping 20k in a single year because at this point a drop in 5-8k isn't that much of a difference. At this point, MB may be willing to ride out the drop in attendance because of the fickle fans who jumped ship because it won't get much worse than it is now.

By that logic, we may as well not field a team. People won't support something awful, may as well close it. If a restaurant is bad, you shut it down.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

I understand your point, but to be fair, there was nothing boring about last Saturday's game. The question is do they build on it or not. We'll see.

Yeah I was there, and for the first time in a long time, was actually entertained. I also was there for the Minnesota snooze fest, so I can't count on what product I am going to get in return for my time and money.

 

[PalmCoastFl]

In actuality, I think a stadium full of fans that continue to go through a bad season(s) speaks much louder than an empty stadium.

If I am in Burke's position, it doesn't really matter because with Tiller you had a fickle fanbase and that hasn't changed. If 55k are coming to the stadium even through a bad stretch, it would show me that my fans deserve better than 3-9 consistently because they have been here through it. With the way things stand, you aren't going to see much reduction in revenue from lost seats...it isn't like dropping 20k in a single year because at this point a drop in 5-8k isn't that much of a difference. At this point, MB may be willing to ride out the drop in attendance because of the fickle fans who jumped ship because it won't get much worse than it is now.

I bbeg to differ to the point it won't matter if attendance declines further...............what recruits are going to want to come to a 25k fan base!!!!!Recruiting is already sub-par and will only get worse as long as he is coaching. Just go pull up RUT, MD, and ILL(3 of the bottom teams) recruiting classes............all three have about 20 commitments already!!!!!!!!!We have a whopping 8!!!!!!!!!!! And I wouldn't be surprised if we lose a couple of more if we turn in another stellar 3-9 season! Not banking we will beat ILL, could e 2-10............

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

I bbeg to differ to the point it won't matter if attendance declines further...............what recruits are going to want to come to a 25k fan base!!!!!Recruiting is already sub-par and will only get worse as long as he is coaching. Just go pull up RUT, MD, and ILL(3 of the bottom teams) recruiting classes............all three have about 20 commitments already!!!!!!!!!We have a whopping 8!!!!!!!!!!! And I wouldn't be surprised if we lose a couple of more if we turn in another stellar 3-9 season! Not banking we will beat ILL, could e 2-10............

The issue I am talking about is that Purdue is already at that low point and they may have speculated out that this year IS the low point for attendance, based on revenue alone. If that is the case, there isn't a reason to fire Hazell because it just doesn't make sense. If you already know, based on figures and speculation that your revenue IS at it's low point and will likely even go up with the new BTN deal coming soon, MB has no reason to fire and hire another coach that could taint his Purdue legacy even more. It just wouldn't make sense, especially considering that this season seems to be trending upward and all points could be established (with a potential 2-2 record in the last four games and an overall record of 4-8) that things are trending up. Couple that with the idea of bringing in a new OC, who if that OC, MB, and CDH say will bring a more spread variation of the offense to Purdue...tickets will go up based on that alone.

If the team ends up at 4-8 and a new OC is hired that focuses on a spread type of style, I would venture to say that ticket sales would jump (at worst) 8k next season...that would be a significant jump based on the last three seasons (especially given the talent that is there with Blough and Jones in the backfield).

 

[PalmCoastFl]

The issue I am talking about is that Purdue is already at that low point and they may have speculated out that this year IS the low point for attendance, based on revenue alone. If that is the case, there isn't a reason to fire Hazell because it just doesn't make sense. If you already know, based on figures and speculation that your revenue IS at it's low point and will likely even go up with the new BTN deal coming soon, MB has no reason to fire and hire another coach that could taint his Purdue legacy even more. It just wouldn't make sense, especially considering that this season seems to be trending upward and all points could be established (with a potential 2-2 record in the last four games and an overall record of 4-8) that things are trending up. Couple that with the idea of bringing in a new OC, who if that OC, MB, and CDH say will bring a more spread variation of the offense to Purdue...tickets will go up based on that alone.

If the team ends up at 4-8 and a new OC is hired that focuses on a spread type of style, I would venture to say that ticket sales would jump (at worst) 8k next season...that would be a significant jump based on the last three seasons (especially given the talent that is there with Blough and Jones in the backfield).

Your forgetting one point...............our"D" pretty much blows under Hudson! He to should be shown the door...............along with Shoop!

 

[boiler800]

Is there an example of a place that is BAD, I mean like 6-26 bad that draws 50,000 every week? This is not a "Purdue fans are bad" thing, it is that as a whole, in high level athletics, if your team stinks, your attendance stinks. More people go to St. Louis Cardinals games than Cincinnati Reds games. It is just life. I am not going to fault people for not watching a bad product. Making matters worse is our product is BAD and BORING. I could see more people coming out to see 35-40 points.

My point was that when a Coach is destined to be fired it doesn't matter if he goes to a Bowl every year, averages 9 wins per season and his teams play to a packed stadium every week (Like Pellini)...because his destiny is to be fired. The same applies to coaches with terrible records, if it's their destiny to be fired, they will be fired...no matter if the stadium is empty or full. Hazell won't be fired this year so why not support the team? Anybody who thinks your empty seat will get Hazell fired this year is living in a fantasy world. The only thing you are successfully doing is punishing guys who gave the hearts to Purdue football during their final season at Purdue (Anthrop, Williams, Brown, Kugler etc..) just because you don't like Coach Hazell. As far as boring goes...55 points verses Nebraska bored you? This team scored 55 on Nebraska without you.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

My point was that when a Coach is destined to be fired it doesn't matter if he goes to a Bowl every year, averages 9 wins per season and his teams play to a packed stadium every week (Like Pellini)...because his destiny is to be fired. The same applies to coaches with terrible records, if it's their destiny to be fired, they will be fired...no matter if the stadium is empty or full. Hazell won't be fired this year so why not support the team? Anybody who thinks your empty seat will get Hazell fired this year is living in a fantasy world. The only thing you are successfully doing is punishing guys who gave the hearts to Purdue football during their final season at Purdue (Anthrop, Williams, Brown, Kugler etc..) just because you don't like Coach Hazell. As far as boring goes...55 points verses Nebraska bored you? This team scored 55 on Nebraska without you.

Destiny???? Are football coaches all Jedi Knights these days? Was it Hazell's "destiny" to hire Weird Beard as his OC?

 

[Summy1]

I actually did think about bringing a "make some changes" sign to the game. I figured it wouldn't get on the tv screen so why bother. I enjoy going to Purdue games but not when they leave me frustrated. I left early at the VT game because the poor play made me so mad.

 

[boiler800]

Destiny???? Are football coaches all Jedi Knights these days? Was it Hazell's "destiny" to hire Weird Beard as his OC?

The definition of destiny:
something that is to happen or has happened to a particular person or thing; lot or fortune. 2. the predetermined, usually inevitable or irresistible, course of events. 3. the power or agency that determines the course of events.

 

[Redhotfill]

Hey - look at the bright side: keeping hazell ensures $10 tickets on stubhub for next year, and reduces the chance that Burke gets to bungle another football hire!

Ah yes the often talked about but rarely seen silver lining.

 

[Redhotfill]

The issue I am talking about is that Purdue is already at that low point and they may have speculated out that this year IS the low point for attendance, based on revenue alone. If that is the case, there isn't a reason to fire Hazell because it just doesn't make sense. If you already know, based on figures and speculation that your revenue IS at it's low point and will likely even go up with the new BTN deal coming soon, MB has no reason to fire and hire another coach that could taint his Purdue legacy even more. It just wouldn't make sense, especially considering that this season seems to be trending upward and all points could be established (with a potential 2-2 record in the last four games and an overall record of 4-8) that things are trending up. Couple that with the idea of bringing in a new OC, who if that OC, MB, and CDH say will bring a more spread variation of the offense to Purdue...tickets will go up based on that alone.

If the team ends up at 4-8 and a new OC is hired that focuses on a spread type of style, I would venture to say that ticket sales would jump (at worst) 8k next season...that would be a significant jump based on the last three seasons (especially given the talent that is there with Blough and Jones in the backfield).

You said "taint" and "legacy in reference to MB lol! I think his legacy is taint.

 

[Redhotfill]

Destiny???? Are football coaches all Jedi Knights these days? Was it Hazell's "destiny" to hire Weird Beard as his OC?

Well they must be as rare as Jedi judging by the amount of money they make!

 

[BoilerNGold013]

49-38 Purdue b/c reasons

 

[RegionWarrior101]

My point was that when a Coach is destined to be fired it doesn't matter if he goes to a Bowl every year, averages 9 wins per season and his teams play to a packed stadium every week (Like Pellini)...because his destiny is to be fired. The same applies to coaches with terrible records, if it's their destiny to be fired, they will be fired...no matter if the stadium is empty or full. Hazell won't be fired this year so why not support the team? Anybody who thinks your empty seat will get Hazell fired this year is living in a fantasy world. The only thing you are successfully doing is punishing guys who gave the hearts to Purdue football during their final season at Purdue (Anthrop, Williams, Brown, Kugler etc..) just because you don't like Coach Hazell. As far as boring goes...55 points verses Nebraska bored you? This team scored 55 on Nebraska without you.

No, I was there for most of it until the stadium speakers and cold got the best of me. I have 4 tickets so I am in a grand on this stuff. I have been to 3 of the 5 games so far. It was mildly entertaining, for sure, but the competition was so bad, I was more surprised watching the Huskers. When you can't snap a ball... Put on the "Benny Hill" theme.

I will go for a while Saturday but you know they will lay an egg. Luckily there are tailgates to visit. If Illinois doesn't turn it over, they will win by 11+.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

The definition of destiny:
something that is to happen or has happened to a particular person or thing; lot or fortune. 2. the predetermined, usually inevitable or irresistible, course of events. 3. the power or agency that determines the course of events.

Wow. OK. That explains a lot.

 

[BoilermakerD]

I have seen this movie before. Completely bought into the hype machine... 2013 after the encouraging loss to Notre Dame then we went out and did nothing the rest of the year. Then last year after the offensive explosion at Illinois and encouraging losses, I was really buying into beating Northwestern and IU and finishing 5-7. Thought it would be a great springboard to 2015. Then a bad Northwestern team came out and slapped us around and we choked one to IU and their 3rd string QB. Now 2015 we beat a down Nebraska team and host a team with a fired coach who we beat last year. Surely win 2 in a row!

I think this Illinois game could be make or break for the staff. Hate to say it. A win puts us at 3-9 worst case, and probably the most real case. Provided IU doesn't beat us by 45, I think a win over IL keeps the status quo. A loss looks really bad, especially to a team with the interim coach who just got shut out the week before.

They better freaking look good on Saturday. They better... There's no reason on god's green earth NOT to look good against that train wreck.

 

[boiler800]

I see how ineffective all this boycotting was on getting a new coach. I said he (Hazell) would be back next year and that looks to already be confirmed. Now it's time to get back in the seats in Ross-Ade and support these BOILERS. With or without you in the stands these guys have never rolled over and played dead. They will not stop giving it all they've got until the last second ticks off the clock in each game. You guys staying home are just hurting your team.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

I see how ineffective all this boycotting was on getting a new coach. I said he (Hazell) would be back next year and that looks to already be confirmed. Now it's time to get back in the seats in Ross-Ade and support these BOILERS. With or without you in the stands these guys have never rolled over and played dead. They will not stop giving it all they've got until the last second ticks off the clock in each game. You guys staying home are just hurting your team.

Why should people pay to watch an inferior product? If there is a movie that gets terrible reviews, you don't go out to see it. If a restaurant does not meet health code, you don't eat there. It is the same thing- entertainment dollars.

I am not really going on a limb here, but I am guessing the TV ratings aren't exactly huge for Purdue football. So people aren't paying to go see it, heck they are not even wasting time to watch it. Darrel Hazell has not proven anything in 3 years. We are about as bad now as we were when Hope left. No identity. Subpar defense. Lackluster recruiting. People blaming the AD. Nothing changes.

I go, but I have no children, no major responsibilities, not much else to do. I like $5 beer. It kills a few hours if the weather is nice. I know they won't win. And I cheer loud, then by the 3rd quarter it is always the same thing... I sit there and yell "come on!"