Reality

[Bleedinggoldandblack]

Now that the season is behind us the question lies does this group that defeated Alabama rise up to its potential or do they let the basketball world pass them by. They have the potential there , it's just do they show up. Perhaps they can watch the game film and remember. The clock starts now. Thoughts welcome.

 

[rgarlitz]

For all the talk of a consistent 4th scorer emerging, my gut tells me Purdue's postseason fortunes will ride on reestablishing defensive tenacity--and getting Braden some rest

 

[northside100]

For all the talk of a consistent 4th scorer emerging, my gut tells me Purdue's postseason fortunes will ride on reestablishing defensive tenacity--and getting Braden some rest

IMO it’s not a consistent 4th scorer but Myles and Cam being able to consistently hit open shots would be huge. Defense won’t be great but it can’t be awful. Rebounds, limit turnovers and make shots. Not placing blame but if Trey hits a few more of the shots that he’s been automatic on or Myles and Fletch don’t combine for 0-4 from there we probably won the IL game.

This team needs to hit those shots or they’ll go home early.

 

[Wolegib]

It appears for some reason this team has lost its defensive intensity and is not close to to what it was at the beginning of the season. Our guards are playing a prevent defense which never works. I have to ask when has Loyer or for that matter smith or cox fouled out of a game this year?

Everyone talks about how bad the refs are. But you don’t get called for a foul if you don’t play aggressive defense to begin with

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

IMO it’s not a consistent 4th scorer but Myles and Cam being able to consistently hit open shots would be huge. Defense won’t be great but it can’t be awful. Rebounds, limit turnovers and make shots. Not placing blame but if Trey hits a few more of the shots that he’s been automatic on or Myles and Fletch don’t combine for 0-4 from there we probably won the IL game.

This team needs to hit those shots or they’ll go home early.

What is this logical thinking you use?!

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

It appears for some reason this team has lost its defensive intensity and is not close to to what it was at the beginning of the season.

They stunk at the beginning of the year on defense

Our guards are playing a prevent defense which never works.

Have not seen this. Can you provide examples?

I have to ask when has Loyer or for that matter smith or cox fouled out of a game this year?

Uh none? Why would they? Smith had 4 against Ohio state and Rutgers. That would ruin Purdue is smith fouled out.

Everyone talks about how bad the refs are. But you don’t get called for a foul if you don’t play aggressive defense to begin with

Correct. Purdue has r played aggressive defense since the baby boilers. But you can be good on defense and not be aggressive.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

Pace and getting enough 3s up. Last game we lost because we didn't take 3s when we got our leads. We took a bunch late when Braden was tired and missed short. This team isn't good defensively. Shoot the ball and get as many possessions as possible.

 

[ChoiceBeef]

Someone mentioned elsewhere and I’ll echo it here - this is a finesse type team. Certainly without rim protection - not built for a B1G title but depending on brackets, could be a deep tourney run.

 

[qazplm]

Someone mentioned elsewhere and I’ll echo it here - this is a finesse type team. Certainly without rim protection - not built for a B1G title but depending on brackets, could be a deep tourney run.

I dunno. They would need to improve on stopping penetration for that. That would be my biggest concern for a deep run.

 

[northside100]

What is this logical thinking you use?!

Don't forget deep thinking. Pat myself on the back and say it's pretty astute to say that you have to make shots to advance in March. 🤣

 

[ChoiceBeef]

I dunno. They would need to improve on stopping penetration for that. That would be my biggest concern for a deep run.

True but we have shown we can do it…..just been a bit since we did it for 40 minutes.

 

[Bleedinggoldandblack]

Alabama game we ran with them and made some 3's been kinda missing as of late. Loyer Cox and Colvin gotta show up with 3 or 4 3 's changes a lot of losses. Heck even Burgess and Furst scored combined for 11 vs goose eggs in Champaign.

 

[TMA62]

3-point production will be crucial going forward. Purdue has had games where there were sizzling from the arch. Purdue has to be consistent there. A 3 out of 30 game will doom them.

 

[northside100]

3-point production will be crucial going forward. Purdue has had games where there were sizzling from the arch. Purdue has to be consistent there. A 3 out of 30 game will doom them.

Totally agree. They can beat good teams shooting ok from three, rebounding and not turning the ball over, but probably can't survive shooting 20%. Against top 10-15 teams or better they're going to have to shoot it well (40%+) while still doing the other things well.

 

[Roeder]

The great thing about March is if the team gets hot and wins some games in the BTT and makes a sweet 16 or better, nobody will remember this stretch of losses.

No pressure this year and won't have target on backs. Get to do some payback during BTT and be an underdog/dark horse in March.

Also, all the years of having Big physical teams that aren't "built for March". Maybe having a great PG and shooting with a mismatch 5 will be a nice formula in single elimination?

Not counting these guys out yet.....

 

[ChoiceBeef]

The great thing about March is if the team gets hot and wins some games in the BTT and makes a sweet 16 or better, nobody will remember this stretch of losses.

No pressure this year and won't have target on backs. Get to do some payback during BTT and be an underdog/dark horse in March.

Also, all the years of having Big physical teams that aren't "built for March". Maybe having a great PG and shooting with a mismatch 5 will be a nice formula in single elimination?

Not counting these guys out yet.....

Good points. Guard play is what how you make deep runs but that would also mean Cox/Harris running the 1 with Braden being a 2 and letting them create for him and themselves.

 

[tjreese]

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IMO it’s not a consistent 4th scorer but Myles and Cam being able to consistently hit open shots would be huge. Defense won’t be great but it can’t be awful. Rebounds, limit turnovers and make shots. Not placing blame but if Trey hits a few more of the shots that he’s been automatic on or Myles and Fletch don’t combine for 0-4 from there we probably won the IL game.

This team needs to hit those shots or they’ll go home early.

Trey shot poorer than usual I believe. That said lots of different things that were successful would get a W. Purdue just needs a little more help in scoring and a sound D keeping people in front of the players and Purdue could play the second week IMO

 

[tjreese]

3-point production will be crucial going forward. Purdue has had games where there were sizzling from the arch. Purdue has to be consistent there. A 3 out of 30 game will doom them.

I have no data…only anecdotal memory. It is rare IMO that if Purdue shoots over 25 threes which is a bigger cut than 30 that Purdue wins. Shooting less than 12 probably leads to a loss many times as well. I’m guessing the sweet range is 15 to 22 which allows some inside outside balance and draws fouls if high stepper is not doing the game and adds scoring FTs.

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

I have no data…only anecdotal memory. It is rare IMO that if Purdue shoots over 25 threes which is a bigger cut than 30 that Purdue wins. Shooting less than 12 probably leads to a loss many times as well. I’m guessing the sweet range is 15 to 22 which allows some inside outside balance and draws fouls if high stepper is not doing the game and adds scoring FTs.

Usually so, TJ, although the two biggest offensive games this year for Purdue - Nebraska and Rutgers (home), the Boilers went 19-33 and 18-36, respectively. Defensive strategy had something to do with those, candidly.

I like 10/21 for average.