Quote from WR's Coach Sheppard concerning recruiting Indiana...

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

"...There’s a lot of talented players that come from the state. I represent it big-time. Obviously, I think it’s hugely important for me to go out there and show my face and show them, ‘Hey, we’re coming after you kids, OK? Now send a couple of them to us, too.’ The pressure will on them. I’m going to be straight up and honest with you: If kids don’t come to Purdue University out of the state of Indiana it’s because they didn’t send them to us. They diverted those kids somewhere else. We’re going after them hard. We have five or six coaches recruiting in Indianapolis. We have coaches all over the state, Evansville, Fort Wayne, Bloomington, we’re all over the state. So if they don’t come here, we are actively recruiting those kids, probably more than anybody else at this moment, at this juncture in the recruiting process. If they don’t come, it’s not going to be because we weren’t going after them. That’s where it’s at.”

Nice to see Brohm focus on the Indiana kids and realize there are some good players here in state that you need to build the program. Obviously, it is never going to be a program with Indiana guys making up a majority of the 2 deeps...but Purdue can build depth, competition, and get some of the higher caliber players from Indiana...that is the ideal situation.

 

[BoilersRock]

I wonder how often Brohm & his assistants have heard "...previous coach(es) never bothered to contact us.." since they started hitting Indiana high schools. I'd like to think that a good number of high school coaches can still remember Purdue's golden years with Tiller.

 

[Bullwhip Griffith]

I wonder how often Brohm & his assistants have heard "...previous coach(es) never bothered to contact us..

Depends...how many high schools are in Indiana again?

 

[ChuckJr]

You obviously haven't been paying attention to the details. On page 462 paragraph 3, the Ina Haze manual specifically states " Do not waste time recruiting players from Indiana, as they are not as accomplished as players from other states with the possible exception of Alaska. If a player from Indiana is offered by Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame or any SEC school, then request film on the player so we can evaluate his talent for a possible future offer".

 

[fcboiler46]

It was interesting when Hazell was first hired there was an all out blitz on Indiana high schools. I was coaching at a sizeable school but had zero D-1 talent in its entire history and Coach Parker came by and talked with us for an hour one day. It was pretty neat. He told us they were trying to get to every high school in the state. Then they proceeded to not recruit any Indiana kids. Or at least as far as any of us can tell. Strange strategy. Good PR move, then poor execution.

 

[nat100]

Good PR move, then poor execution.

That sums up hazell's entire tenure

 

[Dandelion1972]

It was interesting when Hazell was first hired there was an all out blitz on Indiana high schools. I was coaching at a sizeable school but had zero D-1 talent in its entire history and Coach Parker came by and talked with us for an hour one day. It was pretty neat. He told us they were trying to get to every high school in the state. Then they proceeded to not recruit any Indiana kids. Or at least as far as any of us can tell. Strange strategy. Good PR move, then poor execution.

Seems contradictory. If your school didn't have any D-1 talent in its entire history, then he wouldn't return there, correct? Then he would spend his time where there is D-1 talent.

 

[Bullwhip Griffith]

Seems contradictory. If your school didn't have any D-1 talent in its entire history, then he wouldn't return there, correct? Then he would spend his time where there is D-1 talent.

Because eventually they may and you want that relationship.

My school produced one Big Ten player that I know of and the staffs popularity with the coaching staff guided that kid right to Purdue.

 

[Dandelion1972]

Sounds good. Keep great relationships with all Indiana high schools!

 

[crossfire74]

"...There’s a lot of talented players that come from the state. I represent it big-time. Obviously, I think it’s hugely important for me to go out there and show my face and show them, ‘Hey, we’re coming after you kids, OK? Now send a couple of them to us, too.’ The pressure will on them. I’m going to be straight up and honest with you: If kids don’t come to Purdue University out of the state of Indiana it’s because they didn’t send them to us. They diverted those kids somewhere else. We’re going after them hard. We have five or six coaches recruiting in Indianapolis. We have coaches all over the state, Evansville, Fort Wayne, Bloomington, we’re all over the state. So if they don’t come here, we are actively recruiting those kids, probably more than anybody else at this moment, at this juncture in the recruiting process. If they don’t come, it’s not going to be because we weren’t going after them. That’s where it’s at.”

Nice to see Brohm focus on the Indiana kids and realize there are some good players here in state that you need to build the program. Obviously, it is never going to be a program with Indiana guys making up a majority of the 2 deeps...but Purdue can build depth, competition, and get some of the higher caliber players from Indiana...that is the ideal situation.

I think it's absolutely vital for an instate program to recruit instate. You need to try your best to keep your talent home. It's not a huge failure if you don't, because some kids want to get away from home and start their own paths, which is completely understandable and there's nothing you can do about that stuff, but you absolutely have to recruit homestate. I think Purdue will be able to do that as they saturate the high schools more and Brohm gets his feet under him and kids see what he's all about. The previous staff left this one with an up hill climb. Other programs in state certainly do have a pretty good foot hold on instate schools, but that's not a huge gap that can't be made up in a year or two especially if they see Purdue up and coming. IU, with a former high school coach as their current HC, will have some advantages in the Indy Metro area, but again, if Brohm can win and kids can see the exciting offenses and a program that is starting to rebuild and be legit again, I think we may finally have some good battles for kids between the two schools. Both programs desire to have more instaters on the roster, so good battles should occur.

 

[Bippus33]

You obviously haven't been paying attention to the details. On page 462 paragraph 3, the Ina Haze manual specifically states " Do not waste time recruiting players from Indiana, as they are not as accomplished as players from other states with the possible exception of Alaska. If a player from Indiana is offered by Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame or any SEC school, then request film on the player so we can evaluate his talent for a possible future offer".

And if the film never arrives.....Purdue never stood a chance of getting them any way.
I guess that is what burns my a$$ the most, folks that post on this forum that out right think that Purdue will never have a chance of securing strong talent form any state for that matter.
A dear friend of mine has a son that was a Sophomore for last year that had a huge D-5 state championship game. The kids parents bleed Gold and Black and word got back to this kids parents that Purdue was not interested because he was too good/too young and they were certain they would not have a chance at him by his senior year...............
What message does that send to a prospective recruit and their family...
Oh that`s right....he plays football in Indiana, he is either a freak or not good enough to play at Purdue.

 

[nat100]

And if the film never arrives.....Purdue never stood a chance of getting them any way.
I guess that is what burns my a$$ the most, folks that post on this forum that out right think that Purdue will never have a chance of securing strong talent form any state for that matter.
A dear friend of mine has a son that was a Sophomore for last year that had a huge D-5 state championship game. The kids parents bleed Gold and Black and word got back to this kids parents that Purdue was not interested because he was too good/too young and they were certain they would not have a chance at him by his senior year...............
What message does that send to a prospective recruit and their family...
Oh that`s right....he plays football in Indiana, he is either a freak or not good enough to play at Purdue.

Is the new staff in contact?

 

[Bippus33]

Is the new staff in contact?

Yes and the family has been amazed with the new staff and the coaching staff has been impressed. Word is/was tha Purdue was damn close on some of those "Never Purdue Guys" this past year!!!!!

 

[nat100]

Yes and the family has been amazed with the new staff and the coaching staff has been impressed. Word is/was tha Purdue was damn close on some of those "Never Purdue Guys" this past year!!!!!

Brohm was close or parker was close?

 

[Dan'l Boone]

"...There’s a lot of talented players that come from the state. I represent it big-time. Obviously, I think it’s hugely important for me to go out there and show my face and show them, ‘Hey, we’re coming after you kids, OK? Now send a couple of them to us, too.’ The pressure will on them. I’m going to be straight up and honest with you: If kids don’t come to Purdue University out of the state of Indiana it’s because they didn’t send them to us. They diverted those kids somewhere else. We’re going after them hard. We have five or six coaches recruiting in Indianapolis. We have coaches all over the state, Evansville, Fort Wayne, Bloomington, we’re all over the state. So if they don’t come here, we are actively recruiting those kids, probably more than anybody else at this moment, at this juncture in the recruiting process. If they don’t come, it’s not going to be because we weren’t going after them. That’s where it’s at.”

Nice to see Brohm focus on the Indiana kids and realize there are some good players here in state that you need to build the program. Obviously, it is never going to be a program with Indiana guys making up a majority of the 2 deeps...but Purdue can build depth, competition, and get some of the higher caliber players from Indiana...that is the ideal situation.

For anyone that has met Coach Shepherd, you know the type of energy he brings and he is from Indiana. I have to believe that "juice" will carry over positively for Purdue.

 

[Bippus33]

Brohm was close or parker was close?

I am assuming Brohm closed late in the game because even though Parker was the Haze`s ace recruiter..Parker was not high on Indiana talent and if you look at the players Parker went after and or did get he was not stealing them from any/many major power 5`s.

 

[nat100]

I am assuming Brohm closed late in the game because even though Parker was the Haze`s ace recruiter..Parker was not high on Indiana talent and if you look at the players Parker went after and or did get he was not stealing them from any/many major power 5`s.

I didn't think he was great, just clarifying. Thanks for the info

 

[boilerbusdriver]

Yes and the family has been amazed with the new staff and the coaching staff has been impressed. Word is/was tha Purdue was damn close on some of those "Never Purdue Guys" this past year!!!!!

This is good news, CJB is a driven coach, he will outwork the previous 2 PU coaches combined when it comes to recruiting Indiana. Stack "Wins", helps open more doors to fence sittin' recruits.
It's gonna happen folks, this year, next year, I don't know, but it is gonna happen with this coaching staff!! We will again start beating IU, on a yearly basis, that will be another weapon going forward!!

 

[Bippus33]

I didn't think he was great, just clarifying. Thanks for the info

Nat100, always love your short and to the point posts!!

 

[Bippus33]

Depends...how many high schools are in Indiana again?

The chickens are coming home to roost for Purple Haze and one story after another surfaces and points out his flawed plan.

 

[FLAG HUNTER]

makes me think Hazel's plan was to be the worst team he could make them

 

[TMA62]

makes me think Hazel's plan was to be the worst team he could make them

I think he was an IU plant along with Morgan Burke.

 

[PaBoiler78]

I think he was an IU plant along with Morgan Burke.

wrong school, osu plant.

 

[Newuser77]

The odds of beating out the likes of UM, OSU, and ND are nearly zero for Purdue. That's just reality. IU going against them will have the similar results. Plus, as mentioned in this thread, with IU having a former HS coach from Indiana will make it tough too. It's going to be a dog fight for state kids. Especially now that Indiana is a solid program.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

The odds of beating out the likes of UM, OSU, and ND are nearly zero for Purdue. That's just reality. IU going against them will have the similar results. Plus, as mentioned in this thread, with IU having a former HS coach from Indiana will make it tough too. It's going to be a dog fight for state kids. Especially now that Indiana is a solid program.

All you have to do is win and show that what Purdue can provide academically, socially, and athletically is advantageous for a student athlete that is interested. The rest is up to the decision of that student athlete and their family.

 

[OldStyle1902]

The odds of beating out the likes of UM, OSU, and ND are nearly zero for Purdue. That's just reality. IU going against them will have the similar results. Plus, as mentioned in this thread, with IU having a former HS coach from Indiana will make it tough too. It's going to be a dog fight for state kids. Especially now that Indiana is a solid program.

When did IUFB become a solid program? Back to back 6-7 seasons?

 

[TC4THREE]

I didn't think he was great, just clarifying. Thanks for the info

Never seen a coach more overrated in my time following Purdue. Parker's only claim to any sort of fame was that he wasn't Hazell and that was enough for most of the fans here at the time. There were even some that wanted to consider him for head coaching position. Most popular winless coach that I can ever recall.

 

[TC4THREE]

The odds of beating out the likes of UM, OSU, and ND are nearly zero for Purdue. That's just reality. IU going against them will have the similar results. Plus, as mentioned in this thread, with IU having a former HS coach from Indiana will make it tough too. It's going to be a dog fight for state kids. Especially now that Indiana is a solid program.

It all depends on winning. There were times when Tiller was winning at Purdue where they could pull some recruits away from that group. If Brohm is able to establish a prolific offense at Purdue, kids will want to play in that. If he starts to win with it, they'll get some portion of top local talent. It may never be even with all the schools you mentioned at any given point in time but it won't be zero either.

 

[BoilerStutz]

If Brohm comes in with an interesting and exciting offense, kids will come. And as kids get to know these good coaches and fine people, the word will get out. As other posters have suggested, we will win a few battles with the big boys. The new facilities will help - a bunch!

 

[boilerpt]

The odds of beating out the likes of UM, OSU, and ND are nearly zero for Purdue. That's just reality. IU going against them will have the similar results. Plus, as mentioned in this thread, with IU having a former HS coach from Indiana will make it tough too. It's going to be a dog fight for state kids. Especially now that Indiana is a solid program.

IU is far from a solid program. Playing enough bad teams catapulted them to back to back 6-7 seasons. Their last winning record was 10 years ago, which was 13 years after the previous winning record. Despite all this "success", they managed to just edge us out for the Big Ten's 13th best 2017 recruiting class.

 

[SDBoiler1]

The odds of beating out the likes of UM, OSU, and ND are nearly zero for Purdue. That's just reality. IU going against them will have the similar results. Plus, as mentioned in this thread, with IU having a former HS coach from Indiana will make it tough too. It's going to be a dog fight for state kids. Especially now that Indiana is a solid program.

Solid program? When was the last time IU finished with a record above .500 and when was the last time IU won a bowl game, if they even made one?

 

[IndyGlen]

The odds of beating out the likes of UM, OSU, and ND are nearly zero for Purdue. That's just reality. IU going against them will have the similar results. Plus, as mentioned in this thread, with IU having a former HS coach from Indiana will make it tough too. It's going to be a dog fight for state kids. Especially now that Indiana is a solid program.

Hey newuser77 your definition of a "solid program" is hilarious

 

[TMA62]

Newuser77's definition of a 'Solid Program': A football program that at best, flirts with a winning season.

 

[boiler1987]

Yes and the family has been amazed with the new staff and the coaching staff has been impressed. Word is/was tha Purdue was damn close on some of those "Never Purdue Guys" this past year!!!!!

Does this kid have any offers yet?

 

[Newuser77]

Hey newuser77 your definition of a "solid program" is hilarious

You guys really want to argue that Indiana isn't a solid program compared to their putrid history? Please.

Would the word respectable make you feel better?

They've made back-to-back bowl appearances. They've also been consistently competitive. Yes, the program has become solid. Last year they were the best team in the state, which isn't saying much. Purdue is running third currently. That is just reality. Purdue hasn't won the Oaken Bucket in four years....four years. I will say losing Wilson was a big blow for the program. Brohm was a big gain for Purdue. I still expect Indiana to recruit really well in-state as Tom Allen is highly regarded. Even with the mess at Indiana this off-season, they still managed to have a better recruiting class than Purdue.

Purdue made a great hire in Brohm. The point is Indiana, isn't the shit Indiana program of...well, nearly their entire existence. They are now a legitimate threat to in-state talent.

 

[Newuser77]

IU is far from a solid program. Playing enough bad teams catapulted them to back to back 6-7 seasons. Their last winning record was 10 years ago, which was 13 years after the previous winning record. Despite all this "success", they managed to just edge us out for the Big Ten's 13th best 2017 recruiting class.

See my post above. My argument is pretty rational.

 

[pboiler18]

You guys really want to argue that Indiana isn't a solid program compared to their putrid history? Please.

Would the word respectable make you feel better?

They've made back-to-back bowl appearances. They've also been consistently competitive. Yes, the program has become solid. Last year they were the best team in the state, which isn't saying much. Purdue is running third currently. That is just reality. Purdue hasn't won the Oaken Bucket in four years....four years. I will say losing Wilson was a big blow for the program. Brohm was a big gain for Purdue. I still expect Indiana to recruit really well in-state as Tom Allen is highly regarded. Even with the mess at Indiana this off-season, they still managed to have a better recruiting class than Purdue.

Purdue made a great hire in Brohm. The point is Indiana, isn't the shit Indiana program of...well, nearly their entire existence. They are now a legitimate threat to in-state talent.

Not on the offensive side of the ball anymore. We have that identity now and will have no problems closing those kids.

With Defense, I suspect we can still get our fair share.

Once we take all the good offensive guys over the next 3-4 years you can go back to sucking like you should.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

Not on the offensive side of the ball anymore. We have that identity now and will have no problems closing those kids.

With Defense, I suspect we can still get our fair share.

Once we take all the good offensive guys over the next 3-4 years you can go back to sucking like you should.

With Holt, I think the defense will eventually be just fine. I think you have seen that with the players the staff has brought in. Having Holt, who is a former HC and has experience at a program like USC is invaluable. My guess is that Holt enjoys having Brohm as the HC because Brohm may delegate much more freedom for Holt as opposed to a HC who may have a defensive mindset.

 

[Bippus33]

Does this kid have any offers yet?

Just now getting letters from MN,Miami and KY

 

[boilerpt]

See my post above. My argument is pretty rational.

Is it? Your conclusion is based on a comparison to their history of being the worst program in college football and the fact that they fared better last year than two other in-state teams that had absolutely awful years. So, applying this logic, you would consider the fastest kid at fat camp to be a burner.