Question on NIL

[BCfanatic2020]

So I’m seeing a lot of backlash on different GBI posts and it’s both puzzling and refreshing.

I am not a capitalist. I believe in free enterprise and then using controls to keep capital from dwarfing labor. Call it the new deal approach.. and you’ll find very few new dealers in Washington. I’d argue that that is the problem. That’s Just full disclosure.

however, if you are a capitalist I have no problem with you being one. Why shouldn’t the billionaire be allowed to be a capitalist? I don’t understand why this offends some CNN viewers.. that those who benefit from different things than you can elect someone to go chase more benefits for themselves.

so, with that said, the NIL backlash of guys who post things like “guys are just naming their price to stay or transfer, can you believe this!?” Are bizarre to me..

I know the undercurrent. And that is that it’s offensive when someone who comes from the labor class can take advantage of the power of capital. There’s also an implication that if one is from the capital class, they should be able to use things like TARP to protect capitalism from emptying out the malfeasant bank that they are invested in. If you believe in capitalism and you were invested in banks that were doing credit default swap stuff .. nothing should have saved them or your investment.

if you are a true capitalist. If you believe in the free market… can you 1) be mad that a college kid has the power of the market at his fingertips? I mean, don’t you like it when a stock you are invested in goes up because Walmart can use leverage to get better deals from suppliers? 2) particularly.. can you be mad when the power of capital allows blue bloods to crush your non blue blood school? Say player A has a great year.. and then he goes to Ohio state next year for 1.2 mill in NIL. If you’re a capitalist, can you be mad about this? Is said player not just engaging in the proper role in the process of capitalism?

I’d love to find out reasons I may be viewing this incorrectly.

 

[purduedavie]

So I’m seeing a lot of backlash on different GBI posts and it’s both puzzling and refreshing.

I am not a capitalist. I believe in free enterprise and then using controls to keep capital from dwarfing labor. Call it the new deal approach.. and you’ll find very few new dealers in Washington. I’d argue that that is the problem. That’s Just full disclosure.

however, if you are a capitalist I have no problem with you being one. Why shouldn’t the billionaire be allowed to be a capitalist? I don’t understand why this offends some CNN viewers.. that those who benefit from different things than you can elect someone to go chase more benefits for themselves.

so, with that said, the NIL backlash of guys who post things like “guys are just naming their price to stay or transfer, can you believe this!?” Are bizarre to me..

I know the undercurrent. And that is that it’s offensive when someone who comes from the labor class can take advantage of the power of capital. There’s also an implication that if one is from the capital class, they should be able to use things like TARP to protect capitalism from emptying out the malfeasant bank that they are invested in. If you believe in capitalism and you were invested in banks that were doing credit default swap stuff .. nothing should have saved them or your investment.

if you are a true capitalist. If you believe in the free market… can you 1) be mad that a college kid has the power of the market at his fingertips? I mean, don’t you like it when a stock you are invested in goes up because Walmart can use leverage to get better deals from suppliers? 2) particularly.. can you be mad when the power of capital allows blue bloods to crush your non blue blood school? Say player A has a great year.. and then he goes to Ohio state next year for 1.2 mill in NIL. If you’re a capitalist, can you be mad about this? Is said player not just engaging in the proper role in the process of capitalism?

I’d love to find out reasons I may be viewing this incorrectly.

Really good post, I agree with you. If schools don’t want to play the game be prepared to be bottom tier in athletics. Playing big time college ball is a job, the best players now will be paid as such, some might not like it but it’s probably not changing. The days of Purdue selling Glenn Robinson jerseys are gone forever, got no problem with that!

 

[TheGunner]

I think college athletes should be non-professional…aka amateurs. But the Supreme Court said college athletes should be paid and I think it will be to the detriment of college sports, but, at least there is a level playing field now.

I don’t even know why the NCAA exists today… post NIL ruling. What are the their rules? I also don’t know how Title IX exists with capitalism.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

I think college athletes should be non-professional…aka amateurs. But the Supreme Court said college athletes should be paid and I think it will be to the detriment of college sports, but, at least there is a level playing field now.

I don’t even know why the NCAA exists today… post NIL ruling. What are the their rules? I also don’t know how Title IX exists with capitalism.

Is it level? I saw on KC that someone was saying players are naming their price to stay. So what happens when we have a safety who is the best player on our defense, Ohio state needs a safety and they offer him $2.5 million for his senior year just to go there and be another guy? Purdue keeping up with that?

what happens when we get a couple years into this thing and blue bloods are coming up with a front-loaded NIL deal with life changing money Purdue alum either cant or won’t offer? Is that level?

I’m not trying to be acrimonious I think I’m just more cynical than most

 

[TheGunner]

Is it level? I saw on KC that someone was saying players are naming their price to stay. So what happens when we have a safety who is the best player on our defense, Ohio state needs a safety and they offer him $2.5 million for his senior year just to go there and be another guy? Purdue keeping up with that?

what happens when we get a couple years into this thing and blue bloods are coming up with a front-loaded NIL deal with life changing money Purdue alum either cant or won’t offer? Is that level?

I’m not trying to be acrimonious I think I’m just more cynical than most

It’s a reality. IMO, what Purdue and the B1G need to leverage is the deep pockets of the BTN. Now if we decide to “manage” our expectations, then we will have problems.

I said at the end of last season, someone should have reached out to David Bell and offered him $2MM to stay. He could improve his draft status and take out an insurance policy in case he is hurt, all while continuing his education and cashing a pretty big check.

Coaches have to begin to understand that their talent depends on the fans behind the team.

Purdue needs to start leveraging its fans and stop thinking small.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

It’s a reality. IMO, what Purdue and the B1G need to leverage is the deep pockets of the BTN. Now if we decide to “manage” our expectations, then we will have problems.

I said at the end of last season, someone should have reached out to David Bell and offered him $2MM to stay. He could improve his draft status and take out an insurance policy in case he is hurt, all while continuing his education and cashing a pretty big check.

Coaches have to begin to understand that their talent depends on the fans behind the team.

Purdue needs to start leveraging its fans and stop thinking small.

Does your first paragraph presume that Purdue and Michigan have the same interests on this? Or did I read it wrong?

purdue can’t possibly offer bell something like that. We need to be the nice guy school who yells at the top of our lungs to a third round pick to leave early for his sake!

even though you’ll begin to see others schools David bells get similar deals to stay.. and stay, and be happy staying. But we can’t do that? We have to be the nice guy right?

im a big fan of the same kinda deal for Allen, Graham and/or Wright presuming all three become/remain in good standing, have decent seasons next year and aren’t surefire first rounders.

will Purdue do it? Ehhh

 

[BoilerBiker]

So I’m seeing a lot of backlash on different GBI posts and it’s both puzzling and refreshing.

I am not a capitalist. I believe in free enterprise and then using controls to keep capital from dwarfing labor. Call it the new deal approach.. and you’ll find very few new dealers in Washington. I’d argue that that is the problem. That’s Just full disclosure.

however, if you are a capitalist I have no problem with you being one. Why shouldn’t the billionaire be allowed to be a capitalist? I don’t understand why this offends some CNN viewers.. that those who benefit from different things than you can elect someone to go chase more benefits for themselves.

so, with that said, the NIL backlash of guys who post things like “guys are just naming their price to stay or transfer, can you believe this!?” Are bizarre to me..

I know the undercurrent. And that is that it’s offensive when someone who comes from the labor class can take advantage of the power of capital. There’s also an implication that if one is from the capital class, they should be able to use things like TARP to protect capitalism from emptying out the malfeasant bank that they are invested in. If you believe in capitalism and you were invested in banks that were doing credit default swap stuff .. nothing should have saved them or your investment.

if you are a true capitalist. If you believe in the free market… can you 1) be mad that a college kid has the power of the market at his fingertips? I mean, don’t you like it when a stock you are invested in goes up because Walmart can use leverage to get better deals from suppliers? 2) particularly.. can you be mad when the power of capital allows blue bloods to crush your non blue blood school? Say player A has a great year.. and then he goes to Ohio state next year for 1.2 mill in NIL. If you’re a capitalist, can you be mad about this? Is said player not just engaging in the proper role in the process of capitalism?

I’d love to find out reasons I may be viewing this incorrectly.

it seems similar to those same fans' other inconsistencies:
liking conference revenue sharing so purdue gets a cut of the ohio state/michigan $, or preferring pro league salary caps to benefit their smaller market team.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

it seems similar to those same fans' other inconsistencies:
liking conference revenue sharing so purdue gets a cut of the ohio state/michigan $, or preferring pro league salary caps to benefit their smaller market team.

Borderline amazing to me that so many people never saw yesterday coming with pack lol. Of course it happened like that. We are Purdue. I bet even if his people were like “hey guys you are aware someone might offer us like 250k right,” our reaction was like “250? We just assumed you’d come here for ten grand then get on Twitter and ask about NIL like some of our kids did this spring” lmao

 

[Bethboilerfan]

Nijel Pack will not be attending Purdue as he is going to play for Miami. They are giving him more than $800,000 to play there next year. https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article260707142.html