Purdue will be the biggest underdogs in S16

[SnowLeopard]

As per 538, Kansas has a 70% likelihood of beating us, making us the biggest underdogs in the S16 round

However, if we do beat Kansas, we are the favorites to make it to the Final Four from our bracket

So this is it.....Kansas is the biggest game of the season for us

Time to go into Ultimate Spoilermaker mode

 

[buffboiler]

The night is always darkest before the sunrise. No doubt the Boilers will come out ready to play. Go get'em, boys!! This is the Year!!

 

[rgarlitz]

As usual, Myron Metcalf at espn.com is sure Purdue has absolutely no chance. Sure, Wisconsin probably is the 3rd best team left in the field while Purdue is the 2nd weakest. That makes a world of sense. But this is a guy who has picked against Purdue almost every week this year:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...no-1-seed-re-seeding-ncaa-tournament-sweet-16

 

[TwinDegrees2]

QUOTE="SnowLeopard, post: 1373156, member: 12696"]As per 538, Kansas has a 70% likelihood of beating us, making us the biggest underdogs in the S16 round

However, if we do beat Kansas, we are the favorites to make it to the Final Four from our bracket

So this is it.....Kansas is the biggest game of the season for us

Time to go into Ultimate Spoilermaker mode



The thing with Kansas is they have Self who I think is way over-rated as a coach. He recruits like a bandit, and Kansas has a lot of talent....a lot. But so do the Boilers. I'd rather be playing Kansas for a FF slot than I would UNC, because Roy is the better in-game coach.

Should be a great game, but I predict coaching and discipline will win the game. Boiler up.

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[harter5]

As usual, Myron Metcalf at espn.com is sure Purdue has absolutely no chance. Sure, Wisconsin probably is the 3rd best team left in the field while Purdue is the 2nd weakest. That makes a world of sense. But this is a guy who has picked against Purdue almost every week this year:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...no-1-seed-re-seeding-ncaa-tournament-sweet-16

Can't stand him, he's also the same guy that said no Big Ten team would make it past the second round...we all know how that prediction turned out for him.

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

As usual, Myron Metcalf at espn.com is sure Purdue has absolutely no chance. Sure, Wisconsin probably is the 3rd best team left in the field while Purdue is the 2nd weakest. That makes a world of sense. But this is a guy who has picked against Purdue almost every week this year:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...no-1-seed-re-seeding-ncaa-tournament-sweet-16

I don't follow the ESPN site nearly as much as I used to, but I got a chuckle out of this comment from the link:

"Reason for Kansas to be #1: they are winning because of their guy who is scoring 20 each night.

Reason for Purdue to be #15: if they didn't have their guy who is scoring 20 each night they wouldn't be winning. (Except for their other guy who is scoring 20 each night.)

More silliness: most of the description of UNC's re-seeding sounded like a reason to give them the bottom seed, and they probably deserve it. And what does Xavier have to do to pull themselves up from the basement, win by triple digits?"

 

[rgarlitz]

Ya, I thought Metcalf's description of Purdue was a thinly-veiled (and underhanded) way of saying the team isn't very good without Swanigan. That, I think, is a dangerous assumption. The 4-player junior class is FAR more responsible for this team's success than most people realize.

I can't decide if Metcalf ranked Purdue #15 because he thinks Purdue is one of the worst teams still alive, or because Purdue is playing Kansas, his #1, so he thinks Purdue has very little chance to advance.

Either way, this guy has habitually underestimated Purdue this year.

 

[BoilerBiker]

vegas liked purdue better than butler or Xavier at the open

KU -4.5
Arizona -7.5
UNC -7.5

 

[Frankie611]

As usual, Myron Metcalf at espn.com is sure Purdue has absolutely no chance. Sure, Wisconsin probably is the 3rd best team left in the field while Purdue is the 2nd weakest. That makes a world of sense. But this is a guy who has picked against Purdue almost every week this year:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...no-1-seed-re-seeding-ncaa-tournament-sweet-16

He is just going with the odds. Wisconsin has a much easier path the the FF than we do - pretty much everyone does. UNC, UCLA, UK, Oregon all had to pull out tough games. Kansas cruised past MSU. If we win he can brush it off because it will be an anomaly on his bracket. I'd we lose he says told you so.
Also I hate the term Spoilermakers. It implies that we don't belong and winning is just ruining it for a more deserving team. This team has earned it. They belong. Time to prove it.

 

[GS Thomas]

Ya, I thought Metcalf's description of Purdue was a thinly-veiled (and underhanded) way of saying the team isn't very good without Swanigan. That, I think, is a dangerous assumption. The 4-player junior class is FAR more responsible for this team's success than most people realize.

I can't decide if Metcalf ranked Purdue #15 because he thinks Purdue is one of the worst teams still alive, or because Purdue is playing Kansas, his #1, so he thinks Purdue has very little chance to advance.

Either way, this guy has habitually underestimated Purdue this year.

Same storyline was pushed in 94 with Big Dog. Purdue ended up playing Kansas in the Sweet 16 and Zo, Waddell, etc obliterated the one man show theory. Coincidence that the same story runs now with Kansas looming?

 

[BoilerGal74]

vegas liked purdue better than butler or Xavier at the open

KU -4.5
Arizona -7.5
UNC -7.5

And as sad as it may be, Vegas is right far more often than the Talking Heads....

 

[Boilermaker]

By Vegas do you really mean the betting public? Other than the opening line (which they are good at) bets end up moving the line to the steady state. Betters aren't always smarter than pundits (think hordes of subway ND fans voting their delusions) but usually they collectively are far more accurate.

 

[wawasee]

Go luck against Kansas. Maybe it's the year of the Boiler..

 

[BoilerGal74]

By Vegas do you really mean the betting public? Other than the opening line (which they are good at) bets end up moving the line to the steady state. Betters aren't always smarter than pundits (think hordes of subway ND fans voting their delusions) but usually they collectively are far more accurate.

I thought he was talking opening lines and that Kansas had the lowest starting odds of all the traditional " big dogs"

 

[Wolegib]

In a different survey that reflected the power ratings of the sweet 16 schools, they rated Kansas as #1. and yes, both Michigan and UW were ranked ahead of Purdue around 8 / 9 of the schools left based on their tourney victories. in this ranking, Purdue was ranked 11th. It was ranked ahead of Florida, South Carolina, West Virginia, Butler and Xavier !

it's hard for me to say Purdue is one of the top 8 schools after watching some of these schools rip apart good teams. I would rate Purdue #9 just ahead of UW and Michigan, and behind (in no particular order) UNC, Gonzaga, Kansas, Baylor, UCLA, Kentucky, Oregon, and Arizona.

Do I believe Purdue could beat one of those 8 teams ? on a good night at Mackey, yes sometimes in an upset. However, Purdue will be playing Kansas at Kansas City which is not exactly a neutral court. And Kansas is an elite school with some very gifted athletes and a smart coach. and unlike South Carolina and Kentucky, they are disciplined and consistent. They don't need the refs' calls to win. .

I will be overjoyed if we win. but I won't expect it. of the 16 teams left, we have probably the hardest draw. I'd love to face Florida, but the reality is a #4 seed is supposed to face the #1 seed, not another #4 seed. .

before the tourney, many thought we'd be a #5 seed. We ended the season ranked #15. So to be thought of as the 11th best team in the tourney is a complement.

 

[beenhummeled?]

Love how Myron says that without Swanigan Purdue would have gone home against ISU. No kidding? Don't you think any team would be different without their best player? I can't believe these guys at ESPN actually get paid

 

[BoilerBiker]

Love how Myron says that without Swanigan Purdue would have gone home against ISU. No kidding? Don't you think any team would be different without their best player? I can't believe these guys at ESPN actually get paid

their next round of $ reductions are coming

I avoid espn.com
and the site has been progressively worse anyway, when I do click a link by mistake (2nd worse only to indystar's format)

http://www.businessinsider.com/espn-layoffs-coming-for-some-top-talent-report-says-2017-3

it was amazing fox sports couldnt come up with a decent sports center alternative

 

[BoilerDeac]

As per 538, Kansas has a 70% likelihood of beating us, making us the biggest underdogs in the S16 round

However, if we do beat Kansas, we are the favorites to make it to the Final Four from our bracket

So this is it.....Kansas is the biggest game of the season for us

Time to go into Ultimate Spoilermaker mode

Purdue has a 44% chance to win according to KenPom

 

[BoilerStation]

Everybody is jumping on the Kansas bandwagon based off the last 6 minutes of that game. MSU had no business staying close and Kansas cannot afford to play us the same way. We aren't going to play as dumb and try to run while playing zero defense like MSU did and even if we were going to try and run we are a much better offensive team. Jackson was pumped up to play Bridges because it was personal. I tend to think we will see more of the Kansas team that played the first 35 minutes and played a number of close games this year against inferior opponents. They've got some athletes and I'm sure there will be a couple highlight dunks but they are worth 2 points just like a layup.

 

[rgarlitz]

Same storyline was pushed in 94 with Big Dog. Purdue ended up playing Kansas in the Sweet 16 and Zo, Waddell, etc obliterated the one man show theory. Coincidence that the same story runs now with Kansas looming?

Yes, the similarities between 1994 and 2017 are interesting. In both cases, the national media consistently underestimated the supporting cast. Of course, Purdue answered that charge by winning the B1G in 1995 and 1996 without Big Dog. Not saying Purdue will win the B1G next year without Swanigan, but I wouldn't count out V. Edwards, Haas, Mathias, and PJ. They have been far, far, far more important to this team than most people outside of Purdue realize.

Interestingly, both the 1994 and 2017 Purdue teams had trouble with a very athletic Michigan team.

 

[TC4THREE]

Love how Myron says that without Swanigan Purdue would have gone home against ISU. No kidding? Don't you think any team would be different without their best player? I can't believe these guys at ESPN actually get paid

They get paid because we read it and then post a link to discuss it on boards like this. If nobody read it, they would go away.

 

[rgarlitz]

For a slightly more, let's say.. objective... analysis, check out Matt Norlander's reseeding at CBS sports:

http://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...16-teams-in-the-march-madness-sweet-16-field/

 

[sixpackpete]

Love how Myron says that without Swanigan Purdue would have gone home against ISU. No kidding? Don't you think any team would be different without their best player? I can't believe these guys at ESPN actually get paid

That could have been said about the Good VE that showed up.

WIthout him, or with bad VE, we would have been going home too.

 

[Purdue0034]

For a slightly more, let's say.. objective... analysis, check out Matt Norlander's reseeding at CBS sports:

http://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...16-teams-in-the-march-madness-sweet-16-field/

A little better than Myron, but I still can't stand or understand the love for the Gators. I sure hope Wisconsin knocks them out, that would be perfect!

 

[Mandeville LA]

Same storyline was pushed in 94 with Big Dog. Purdue ended up playing Kansas in the Sweet 16 and Zo, Waddell, etc obliterated the one man show theory. Coincidence that the same story runs now with Kansas looming?

Zo hit 8 threes in that game. My soon to be wife and graduate of Kansas was crying. This was the first game we watched together. She had no respect for Purdue and was only concerned about the Dog. She was crying and I was doing my best to console her with hugs and such. If it a repeat of the 94 game Thursday night she is on her own. We have kids and a living dog that can try to cheer her up. I will be dancing and finishing my 8th beer.

 

[Boilermaker]

Zo hit 8 threes in that game. My soon to be wife and graduate of Kansas was crying. This was the first game we watched together. She had no respect for Purdue and was only concerned about the Dog. She was crying and I was doing my best to console her with hugs and such. If it a repeat of the 94 game Thursday night she is on her own. We have kids and a living dog that can try to cheer her up. I will be dancing and finishing my 8th beer.

Glad the living dog gets to cheer her up. Hate to hear she had to find solace with the dead one!

 

[Mandeville LA]

Glad the living dog gets to cheer her up. Hate to hear she had to find solace with the dead one!

First post on my phone in a long time due to the auto correct. Loving dog. It also changed to 8 beers instead of 12 for some reason.

 

[BoilerGal74]

Purdue has a 44% chance to win according to KenPom

With that and this team's mental quotient, I'll take those odds....

 

[BoilerDeac]

With that and this team's mental quotient, I'll take those odds....

Agreed. Kansas might win 6 or 7 times out of 10, but if Purdue defends at a mildly respectable level, they can win.

All we need is one.

 

[SnowLeopard]

We have yet to see Purdue put in a complete game, where most (all) the key players are locked in

Hopefully we play like that this week

 

[nagemj02]

If a program keeps knocking on the door (in terms of advancing far) in the NCAA Tournament, eventually they'll break through it. Eventually can be Purdue this season.

 

[Scheffler fan]

"Purdue will be biggest underdogs", I like it.

 

[BoilerDeac]

Agreed. Kansas might win 6 or 7 times out of 10, but if Purdue defends at a mildly respectable level, they can win.

All we need is one.

Purdue now down to 37% on KenPom, likely because the game is rightfully categorized as semi-away.

 

[BoilerGal74]

Purdue now down to 37% on KenPom, likely because the game is rightfully categorized as semi-away.

Still believe in our guys....ever faithful ever true!

 

[Dryfly88]

Butler and Xavier are both bigger underdogs (+7 1/2)

PU is +5